Didn't I already say what I hear ? Hmmm, I can't remember (that was for OldSkool, lol). Really what separates the 801S's for me is their ability to bring out the nuanced harmonic subtleties of each instrument and voice. On my gear the Teles deliver the closest thing to real instrument timbre and size that I've heard on headphones. In short they deliver a more complex note. There are a lot of very good tubes that are great at retrieving certain details but they are flatter, thinner, "smaller" and less textured on my gear. I've been involved in live music most of my life and the Teles deliver the closest thing to that live, pulsating, breathing sound. Don't know if this translates to the MJ2, Lyr 2, etc...but they sure deliver for me.