Mar 24, 2016 at 8:02 PM Post #24,451 of 27,306
Some form of Huddler misanthropy precluding quoting of your post there.
 
So. Well yes Sony was there first for sure. The rarity of the R10 makes me use the current production (and materials)HD800 as an example. You are not alone in avoiding the Darkside. There are a lot of folk to whom the Slammhammer sound is not appealing. I have the other disease where pretty much anything AKG after the buy out has zero on the appeal scale for me.
 
I was thinking of transplanting the YH3 drivers into something. The example I have has the most spaghetti like headband I have ever encountered. Must have been stored away somewhere where there was an air condition that softens plastic. Odd though as the pads are brand new in appearance and feel. I might just stiffen it up with wire or something as I like the ergodynamics of the phone and it's light weight.
 
Anyone would take the ER4 over any Shure. I've had the ER4 since the first year of production. The Shures came my way in a bulk buy and pretty much blew my eardrums out until I used trickery to get the bass down. Then all of a sudden it becomes an IEM of substantial detail. Why they hid it under all that bass bloat is beyond understanding unless beatsmania got to them.
 
I have not had the pleasure of hearing the U70. Not the easiest phone to get hold of these days.
 
I was referring to the cold plasma scenario as taking the same development route as lasers did. Still now you mention it if you can use a laser to record sound off a window, why would you not be able to turn that around and use it to excite a diaphragm of some sort?  Thin mylar with some photoreactive coating or something?  That would make on hell of an IEM.
 
Nothing wrong with maggies.  Nothing wrong with Estats either.
 
Mar 25, 2016 at 3:53 PM Post #24,454 of 27,306
How long are they comfortable with the thin custom pads? I steer clear from supra-aural for the most part because I can't handle the pressure points. I'm imagining an EAH-830 inspired pad where the pad mount (where it attaches to the baffle) had a firm backing (think of a CD with the center hole routed out to some diameter), then a donut shaped piece of thick ( <5mm ) foam (multiple sheets of craft foam, perhaps, they don't have too much squish factor) and then you mount your 10mm custom pad onto this "baffle riser" of sorts. This riser would create an air gap between the baffle and your pad and allow your ears to settle into this air gap using your custom ear pad as a sort of hammock. It might smear the bass, and yet, I think it could have interesting sonic affects worth hearing, too (or it will just sound like crap...). While it increases the "ear chamber" to a degree which some would probably say is "considerable," I don't feel the air gap will have huge and horrible detrimental affects to the sound if done right. You might even get better soundstaging with acoustics permeating through the ear pad? Soundstaging is difficult to nail, imo. You're either so close to the driver you're listening to your recording through a hole in the wall, or you create a room for your ear which is connected to that hole in the wall and amplify the sound a whole lot in order to fill the room your ear resides in up with sound allowing you to use the room for acoustic positional queuing. Everything I said on soundstaging is probably very, very wrong and not actually what's going on, but it's difficult for me to describe the differences in soundstage that I hear when comparing, say, an IEM with a pair of speakers. 
 
Love the mods, though, GREQ. Interesting work.
 
Mar 25, 2016 at 6:03 PM Post #24,455 of 27,306
Not really, I just wanted you to think about plasma drivers, tbh. It just seemed to me like you were giving too much thought to driver housing materials when there are, in my mind, other things in the world which could lead to higher sonic performance. I've thought about IEM's that implement plasma drivers which are driven by a small portable energizer unit. The biggest issues with designing and using plasma IEM's would be safety, imo; ozone production and injecting 20,000V of electricity into your ear drum. However, if we could produce plasma IEM's would you still be interested in MDF or HDF?

The air itself becomes its own motor force in a way. The air definitely has mass, the electrons we're using to create ionized Oxygen have mass, the electrons we're "pushing through" a wire have mass, the IEM's themselves have mass, the energizer unit has mass, you have mass, etc. But does magnetic flux have mass? I don't know. Magnetic flux as created by an electromagnet are arguably the result of electrons moving at relativistic speeds (think Einstein and time slowing as you approach the speed of light). So, in this model, electromagnets create magnetic flux as a result of moving mass which are concentrated within a vector (the wire we're pushing electrons through).

But what signal does your brain use? Does that or do those mechanism(s) have mass? You definitely "get it," I'm just playing devil's advocate here, more or less.



Heh well, we need to have a clear definition of massless in our context first. If we just mean lack of medium between signal and air motion; what I mentioned above. Or even removing the mass of air all together and just going to raw brain signals, which still have mass of course. Again, context.

Generally, if it exists, it has mass.
 
Mar 25, 2016 at 6:46 PM Post #24,457 of 27,306
  (ignore the ring of felt in the first pic)
    
 

Lol! Those are circumaural. For some reason I was imagining a completely different scenario. Those look freaking amazing. If RP18's were cheaper (under $100) how many people do you see being interested in them?
 
-Edit- If you're still interested in creating that "hammock" ear pad you should, imo, perhaps think about using the stock supra-aural pads and mount those to the baffle risers. You might be surprised how much bass will get underneath the ear pad and still reach the outer portions of your ear and even parts of your face.
 
Mar 26, 2016 at 1:46 PM Post #24,460 of 27,306
  love the dramatic title eh: http://www.whathifi.com/news/audeze-sine-are-worlds-first-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones


The link scares me. I really don't want my ears planed
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