[AstralStorm]

If AKG K3003 is too expensive for you and you can live with the treble filters, Fischer Audio DBA-02 or Brainwavz B2 are quite comparable.
If you cannot, then perhaps VSonic GR01.

 

[walkman_heart]

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I only have a stock TF10. The e-Q5 is a more balanced than that and than the FX500 as well. Definitely no recessed mids there. It's actually still one of the most 'pleasant' earphones I've heard, maybe not the best at anything but so refined and relaxed that wanted to listen to it instead of reviewing it. 

 
Hi joker,
 
Thanks for your quick response

 
I have another question about it
 
does the e-Q5 have similar sound signature of brainwavz m1? because I've already sell my brainwavz m1 which does not fit my preference..
 
My preference is similar to tf10 or U shape sound signature, mostly I listen to rock, rnb, pop, acoustic and hip hop
 
My max budget for the new iem will be 200usd
 
I'm just worried about e-Q5's treble it might not suit me, because I like sparkly and extended highs
May be dba02 mk-II might suit me

 
but I wonder the bass of it, is it similar to tf10 and without metallic timbre?

 
if yes I might go for it

 
if you have any other suggested iem, I will be gladly to consider it
 
Thank you very much for enlightening me for my next purchase

 

[AstralStorm]

Brainwavz B2 and Fischer Audio DBA-02 (mkI; mkII probably as well, as they measure very much the same) doesn't have metallic timbre to my ears - only high amounts of 4-6k brightness if used with foams.
Interestingly enough, this brightness is reduced noticeably (to near zero?) with silicone tips.
(e.g. included single flanges or even better, VSonic single flanges)
 
9/10 in my scale - pity they don't have any better subbass handling. The signature with silicones is relatively flat to my ears with minor dip in the center midrange (pushing female vocals back) and very minor aggressive boost at 5-6 kHz.
No metallic 2-3 kHz boost, no metallic "bell-like" 4k resonance.

 

[sphinxvc]

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What's the output impedance of the Zodiac? You really don't want a high output impedance for a BA monitor such as the UM3X. 

 
Mismatch sounds like a much more plausible theory than mine.  

 
Looked it up and there are conflicting reports online, some say 120 ohm, some say 5 ohm.  

 

[walkman_heart]

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Brainwavz B2 and Fischer Audio DBA-02 (mkI; mkII probably as well, as they measure very much the same) doesn't have metallic timbre to my ears - only high amounts of 4-6k brightness if used with foams.
Interestingly enough, this brightness is reduced noticeably (to near zero?) with silicone tips.
(e.g. included single flanges or even better, VSonic single flanges)
 
9/10 in my scale - pity they don't have any better subbass handling. The signature with silicones is relatively flat to my ears with minor dip in the center midrange (pushing female vocals back) and very minor aggressive boost at 5-6 kHz.
No metallic 2-3 kHz boost, no metallic "bell-like" 4k resonance.

 
AstralStorm, wow, that's a good news, no metallic timbre makes me jump and grab those dba-02 mkII right away
 
usually I use silicone tips in my iems, foam tips is very expensive for me
 
now the search begins and if possible I will audition this in our local store first
 
thanks a lot for your advice

 

[ljokerl]

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Hi joker,
 
Thanks for your quick response

 
I have another question about it
 
does the e-Q5 have similar sound signature of brainwavz m1? because I've already sell my brainwavz m1 which does not fit my preference..
 
My preference is similar to tf10 or U shape sound signature, mostly I listen to rock, rnb, pop, acoustic and hip hop
 
My max budget for the new iem will be 200usd
 
I'm just worried about e-Q5's treble it might not suit me, because I like sparkly and extended highs
May be dba02 mk-II might suit me

 
but I wonder the bass of it, is it similar to tf10 and without metallic timbre?

 
if yes I might go for it

 
if you have any other suggested iem, I will be gladly to consider it
 
Thank you very much for enlightening me for my next purchase

 
No, the M1 is thicker and more mid-centric. The e-Q5 is more balanced and clean-sounding. However, it's really not v- or u-shaped. Neither is the DBA-02 mkII, but it does have more treble energy than the e-Q5. Leaner bass, though.  And both have less bass than the TF10. Even the UE900 has less bass than the TF10, and that's UE's own follow-up.
 
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Mismatch sounds like a much more plausible theory than mine.  

 
Looked it up and there are conflicting reports online, some say 120 ohm, some say 5 ohm.  

 
That's a pretty wide gap 

 

[sphinxvc]

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That's a pretty wide gap 

 
I know, it's harder than it should be to find detailed information on Antelope products.  

 

[ljokerl]

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I know, it's harder than it should be to find detailed information on Antelope products.  

 
Indeed. Tech specs really shouldn't be a matter of opinion. 

 

[jhelsas]

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If AKG K3003 is too expensive for you and you can live with the treble filters, Fischer Audio DBA-02 or Brainwavz B2 are quite comparable.
If you cannot, then perhaps VSonic GR01.

Sorry to ask, but what do you mean by "treble filters"?

 

[ljokerl]

A full review of the MEElec A161P and Fischer SBA-03, with measurements, has been posted at InnerFidelity here. I'll be adding the MEElec A161P to the chart as a separate entry in the near future. The cable, plug, and accessory pack are different from the Fischer version. Everything else is pretty much the same. 
 
 
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Sorry to ask, but what do you mean by "treble filters"?

 
The K3003 comes with 3 sets of tuning filters that affect the sound - bass boost, treble boost, and reference. There's some info on them in the beginning of my write-up as well. 

 

[PMAP]

256. Nice round number for us IT people.
 
Are you testing the Rock-It R50 already? Would they reach at least 8.5 on your rating scale?

 

[heart banger-97]

hi ljokerl! I want to recommend some U (or even V)shaped headphone to one of my friend that listen to pop and  rock & metal songs
I want to recommend him tf10 and w3 or even ie8 (I heard w4r and ex1000 and ie8)
 
when I listen to metal songs with ex1000 I hear a lot of harshness in treble (in ie8 case the treble was good without any harshness) so  are w3 or tf10 safe choices?
can you suggest me some U (or even V)shaped headphone which have not a hot treble like ex1000? (I think that something  like ie8 whit less bass quantity and tighter bass will be suitable.)
 
thanks

 

[jhelsas]

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A full review of the MEElec A161P and Fischer SBA-03, with measurements, has been posted at InnerFidelity here. I'll be adding the MEElec A161P to the chart as a separate entry in the near future. The cable, plug, and accessory pack are different from the Fischer version. Everything else is pretty much the same. 
 
 
 
The K3003 comes with 3 sets of tuning filters that affect the sound - bass boost, treble boost, and reference. There's some info on them in the beginning of my write-up as well. 

 Thanks for the answer joker, I didn't understand he was refering to the K3003

 

[ljokerl]

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256. Nice round number for us IT people.
 
Are you testing the Rock-It R50 already? Would they reach at least 8.5 on your rating scale?

 
Yes and yes
 
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hi ljokerl! I want to recommend some U (or even V)shaped headphone to one of my friend that listen to pop and  rock & metal songs
I want to recommend him tf10 and w3 or even ie8 (I heard w4r and ex1000 and ie8)
 
when I listen to metal songs with ex1000 I hear a lot of harshness in treble (in ie8 case the treble was good without any harshness) so  are w3 or tf10 safe choices?
can you suggest me some U (or even V)shaped headphone which have not a hot treble like ex1000? (I think that something  like ie8 whit less bass quantity and tighter bass will be suitable.)
 
thanks

 
The TF10 has less treble energy than the EX1000 in my experience but it's by no means laid-back. The W3 is highly tip depend and can sound somewhat harsh. I would consider the Yamaha EPH-100 or Monster Miles Davis Trumpet as alternatives. The Trumpet is more v-shaped but not harsh or bright while the EPH-100 is a bit more laid-back up top and has a heavier midrange emphasis. 

 

[heart banger-97]

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Yes and yes
 
 
The TF10 has less treble energy than the EX1000 in my experience but it's by no means laid-back. The W3 is highly tip depend and can sound somewhat harsh. I would consider the Yamaha EPH-100 or Monster Miles Davis Trumpet as alternatives. The Trumpet is more v-shaped but not harsh or bright while the EPH-100 is a bit more laid-back up top and has a heavier midrange emphasis. 

 
thanks, my friend think that the bass quantity of klipsch s4 is too much (boomy) for him. do you think that eph-100 has less bass quantity? (as you said in your review, eph-100 has less bass quantity than Monster Miles Davis Trumpet)