[ljokerl]

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Pretty sure Joker thinks the UE700 is the worst implementation of the TWFK. 

Yes
 


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Impossible.
 
These sound like an exciting ER-4.

 


A:B them with the CK10 and you'll see what I mean. They sound alike signature-wise but the UE700 is just that little bit worse in every way.

 

[Heret1c]

Does Knowles sell the TWFK as is to all manufacturers or do they also custom tune them before delivery as the the manufacturer's request? I ask because UE is always talking about how they use custom-tuned drivers.
 
"

Pro-quality sound reproduction.

Dual-armature design with passive crossover: Two custom-tuned armature speakers in each ear give you clean, detailed sound. One speaker produces rich and punchy bass, while the second speaker delivers clear mid and high notes."
 
-Excerpt from UE website

 

[kiteki]

 
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A:B them with the CK10 and you'll see what I mean. They sound alike signature-wise but the UE700 is just that little bit worse in every way.

I'll do so, when I get the chance, but your throughts above are what I thought of the q-Jays.

I prefer the mids on the UE700, it could just come down to taste, the bass in these is lacking though, it's like they took the ck10 and shifted the whole FR a couple steps to the right, I edited my post above with how I think they compare to ck10.

 

[ljokerl]

 
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Does Knowles sell the TWFK as is to all manufacturers or do they also custom tune them before delivery as the the manufacturer's request? I ask because UE is always talking about how they use custom-tuned drivers.

If you're placing a large enough order they'll tune it for you or help you tune it.

 

[kiteki]

The UM Aero is also TWFK.
 
From memory (I used the ck10 everyday for a long time..) the UE700 has even better clarity, really!... you just need to find the sweet spot in volume before the bass starts distorting.
 
By the way I'm interested in your thoughts on RE272 versus CK10 and UE700 joker!

 

[tyrael]

Do you have any plan to review the re272 joker?

 

[i2ehan]

^^ I'm interested to know as well.

 

[kiteki]

Ok, I just read Mike at headfonia's review, he says the UE700 is very airy compared to the other dual-driver IEM's, including the JH5! I don't agree with him on his whole review at all, but like I said, this has the air and clarity of the ER-4S but it's more exciting! surpassing ck10 in the highs, moving my rant here -> kiteki UE700 ranting

 

[Heret1c]

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If you're placing a large enough order they'll tune it for you or help you tune it.

Ah ok. So UE wasn't just embellishing when they said that then, possibly. Always thought it was just marketing speak, really.
 

 

[ljokerl]

 
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Do you have any plan to review the re272 joker?

Yes
 


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Ok, I just read Mike at headfonia's review, he says the UE700 is very airy compared to the other dual-driver IEM's, including the JH5!

I've never read his reviews and never will after someone mentioned that his review of the Marshall Major said they sound like the HD25-1. I can't think of two headphones that are more different to my ears so I don't imagine we'd agree on anything. I did spend hours A:Bing the CK10, UE700, DBA-02, q-JAYS and the Phiaton PS200 (back when I still had it) and maintain that the UE700 is the one I'd get rid of first. It's also often the cheapest, however, since UE dropped the MSRP from $199 to $149 this year, so it's not necessarily the one I'd be least likely to buy.

 

[kiteki]

I'm happy for you to maintain that, and I'd agree that the UE700 sub-bass is almost non-existent, it just sounds quite a bit better than I expected in the mids and highs, especially for only $99! now all I need to do is perhaps buy another one and reshell it with one or two more drivers.
 
Edit: Also Lol at Mike, and by the way you and esantosh said the RE252 sounds roughly like a reshelled RE0! I can't agree on that, just ftr...

 

[ljokerl]

 
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Originally Posted by kiteki /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
by the way you and esantosh said the RE252 sounds roughly like a reshelled RE0! I can't agree on that, just ftr...

I don't recall saying that. They are both well-balanced dynamic-driver IEMs and there were very few of those back then so obviously they shared a degree of similarity but I don't think I ever hinted that they used the same internals as the RE0. If you mean my comment about gummy bears, that refers strictly to the form factor. My RE252 review does start with:
 
 
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When the RE252 (at that time called the RE3) was first announced I expected that it would be a spiritual successor to Head-Direct’s previous flagship and one of my all-around favorite IEMs, the RE0. From the first listen, however, I realized that they are very different animals. 

 

 

[ljokerl]

Whoa, just noticed my new custom title 

. How long has that been there?

 

[MaxwellDemon]

Whoa, just noticed my new custom title 

. How long has that been there?

Probably a few days old, I don't recall it being there when I made a comment about your EX1000 review. Neat title!

 

[i2ehan]

Ahaha, well deserving, might I add! However, my title for you is slightly different my friend: |joker|, "190+ reasons why your wallet hates you"