[battosai]

The more awg the thicker gauge of cable means lower the resistance means less electrons get loose on thier way

Wrong, higher awg means thinner diameter. As for what it does to the resistance, I'll let the physicists talk...

 

[galangerz]

Should i bear in mind the awg for a particular wire? Wires in EA store come in varying awg. What difference does it make if any?

The more awg the thicker gauge of cable means lower the resistance means less electrons get loose on thier way

*not a physicist, just google cus this question intrigued me as well*

The greater the awg, the thinner the wire.

The thinner the wire, the more resistance there is

In a perfect setting you'd want a pure conductor with zero resistance, or an extremely short wire approaching zero length

For practical reasons, however, thinner wire, almost always in litz, is used for personal audio since it is flexible.

Awg is really taken in account when working with larger speaker setups. With longer wires increasing impedance, a speaker can experience power loss if a high awg, high resistance cable is used. Therefore, thicker gauge (and thicker in general) cables are used in those cases

For a 1.5m iem cable, awg doesnt matter as much as the metal being used, the purity of that metal, if any treatment or insulation has been added to it, and (according to some) the geometry of the weave.

If I'm wrong lemme know please

 

[Cevisi]

Wrong, higher awg means thinner diameter. As for what it does to the resistance, I'll let the physicists talk...

Ok why does america have these strange systems ?

 

[rr12267]

Ok why does america have these strange systems ?

The reason for this confusion is that the gauge represents the number of drawings/stretching that wire has undergone in the manufacturing process. With each drawing/stretching the wire gets a little thinner and longer. Thus the higher the gauge the thinner the wire. Hope this clears things up a bit.

 

[rurika]

I'm a bit lost.... Like i said i have some wire from norne audio and i want to try another one for the fun and thank to Hakuzen for recommending neotech but i don't understand all the difference between, up-occ, cryo, litz... What is the best for my HD800 because i want to keep the clarity and resolution(i already noticed going from stock to the norne audio wire give me a more precise soundstage)

For HD800 ... I would recommended for copper cables. Don't think that they have HD800 connectors. They might have it but you need to ask them.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000227749190.html This cable should suit HD800 most.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000007909452.html The other one. Both of them are great cable.

For the TAX from Ali ... it starts have tax when they change the law. I think around middle of this year because on Feb still no taxes.
Even buy items on EBAY (from oversea like Japan) still have tax.

 

[Devangel]

For HD800 ... I would recommended for copper cables. Don't think that they have HD800 connectors. They might have it but you need to ask them.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000227749190.html This cable should suit HD800 most.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000007909452.html The other one. Both of them are great cable.

For the TAX from Ali ... it starts have tax when they change the law. I think around middle of this year because on Feb still no taxes.
Even buy items on EBAY (from oversea like Japan) still have tax.

Thank for the advice and thanks again Hakuzen for explaining !


Some people have already told me that silver can make the HD800 more harsh but i'm curious, don't worry about the connectors because i removed them(and i hate them, the wire from the connector to the speakers are way worse in fact). So i "hard wired" the cable .

 

[muths66]

Thank for the advice and thanks again Hakuzen for explaining !


Some people have already told me that silver can make the HD800 more harsh but i'm curious, don't worry about the connectors because i removed them(and i hate them, the wire from the connector to the speakers are way worse in fact). So i "hard wired" the cable .

you can try 175 or 198

 

[Devangel]

you can try 175 or 198

I guess i am going to make my own cable after all because i already have a furutech 4pin xlr, so this wire > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33008255130.html for copper(up-occ, cryo, litz..) or this > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33006890732.html(silver, cryo, litz) or the last one > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33046978735.html( up-occ i guess ?.. 99% silver and 1% gold, Au-Ag, litz, cryo ?).
I suspect silver will reduce the bass of my HD800 even if i get better resolution, tough choice.

 

[rurika]

My suggestion is try the different wire material than norne audio wire that you have. If you already have copper wire .. so try the last one.

Not a fan of silver cable unless pair it with dark headphone.

 

[hakuzen]

I guess i am going to make my own cable after all because i already have a furutech 4pin xlr, so this wire > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33008255130.html for copper(up-occ, cryo, litz..) or this > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33006890732.html(silver, cryo, litz) or the last one > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33046978735.html( up-occ i guess ?.. 99% silver and 1% gold, Au-Ag, litz, cryo ?).
I suspect silver will reduce the bass of my HD800 even if i get better resolution, tough choice.

if you are going to try silver wire, the 3rd one is my recommendation; it's not litz. but bass is very tight with it, together with enhanced treble, the result is bright.
so i'd mix it with copper, or would choose only copper. 1st link is litz enameled, so you'll have to remove it from the exposed parts before soldering. if you don't want to mess with that, you can rather try these frozen up-occ copper no litz wires:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000007394876.html (26awg, thicker -better-)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000007925933.html (28awg)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000007925932.html (28awg, smoked sleeve)

 

[Devangel]

if you are going to try silver wire, the 3rd one is my recommendation; it's not litz. but bass is very tight with it, together with enhanced treble, the result is bright.
so i'd mix it with copper, or would choose only copper. 1st link is litz enameled, so you'll have to remove it from the exposed parts before soldering. if you don't want to mess with that, you can rather try these frozen up-occ copper no litz wires:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000007394876.html (26awg, thicker -better-)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000007925933.html (28awg)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000007925932.html (28awg, smoked sleeve)

So if i want a good sound i need to buy the last one but because the result will be bright(it's no like the HD800 was already bright ahahah) i need a copper one too, never tried mixing two wires, interesting . Litz is not a problem, the norne audio wire is litz, cryo too. For example before these wires i tried the one forza audio is selling(https://forzaaudioworks.com/en/product.php?id_product=22) but the high were so recessed, the bass was bloated..

 

[hakuzen]

So if i want a good sound i need to buy the last one but because the result will be bright(it's no like the HD800 was already bright ahahah) i need a copper one too, never tried mixing two wires, interesting . Litz is not a problem, the norne audio wire is litz, cryo too. For example before these wires i tried the one forza audio is selling(https://forzaaudioworks.com/en/product.php?id_product=22) but the high were so recessed, the bass was bloated..

good info about that FAW wire..

 

[Palash]

My ISN Audio C4 just arrived, look and feel very good. Sound impression coming soon.

 

[facethemusic88]

Anyone got a cable made of 6 cores? It is 4 or 8 that is being spoken about. Is that a middle ground between both?

 

[youngmanoldboy]

i want to find a cable for my ns-audio ns5. it uses 2 pin 0.78mm connector and the port is recessed. what's the keyword for this?
It's kinda hard to search because in ali most uses flush plug, not recessed.