Low end. Cheap. Generic. Otherwise bang for buck cable thread!
Dec 5, 2019 at 12:35 PM Post #3,511 of 9,223
Cable #170 Arrived !

Never really knew what people meant by Beautiful cable until I got this. Very soft supple cable that feels like a woven silk thread rather than a metal copper cable. Can’t help touching it in amazement.
Loving the colour too.

The build quality of cable is superb - very impressive for hand built. The mmcx fitting with DM6 is perfect.
Definitely better than I imagined and I’m a fussy person.

I purchased the Balanced 2.5MM version even though I don’t have a source with balance out yet. That source is on order - FIIO BTR5. Looking forward to experiencing the cable in a Balanced setup.

For now I’m using the ddHiFi 2.5-3.5mm adapter to connect to my LG V30 DAP.

Sound wise I’m very pleased using it with current setup. I have only had a short period of listening in the day hours. Sub bass has more texture, soundstage is improved and there is no loss of detail in the highs even though it is all copper cable. Sparkly and detailed without spikes that some say of DM6.

I need undisturbed evening listening time to really get a better grip of the sound quality.

Some porn for now ..



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Dec 6, 2019 at 1:04 AM Post #3,512 of 9,223
i got same issue (one channel going on and off) when using cable 133 of my list with magaosi k5. in this case, the problem was the mmcx connection.
if you notice that the left channel goes off, and you start receiving left signal in right side, the problem could be the jack not pushed all the way in.
and last, some solder of your left side, either in jack, either in mmcx, could be broken.
stock cable of k5 measured 546, 545, 452, 478 mOhms. a bit high resistance, but better than some other stock cables.
treble alteration of k5 balanced armatures is very possible when your output impedance (source+cable) is high (above 1ohm). higher resistance, bigger alteration.
i can't tell if you get harsher or softer treble, because i haven't measured k5 impedance curve yet.
if the cables you have tried are thinner than k5 stock cable, they probably have resistance above 1ohm (higher than stock). so we could deduct you get harsher treble with higher resistance cables.
thus, you need a cable below 400mOhm to avoid harsher treble than with stock cable.
my main database of cables compiles a good amount of cables below 400mOhm. surf through it (you can find links to them at "comments, pics, and links" sections, to find out their price).


i haven't tried C16-3 yet, but tried OFCH one (cable 090 in my list), and it could fit your needs. not an special cable (normal at its price segment), but good enough and a bit warm/dark.


no, sorry, i didn't have the chance to try them
Hey there @hakuzen - received my 11/11 order a few days ago (NiceHCK C16-3 and 053 CT1 from your list - all with MMCX from the NiceHCK store on AE) and finally got around to doing some resistance measurements (Brymen BM867s with 2 decimal places in delta-ohm mode - no milliohm available though...) and here are the results starting at the tip of the male jack:

1) C16-3 with 2.5mm: 0.31, 0.25, 0.26, and 0.25
2) C16-3 with 4.4mm: 0.29, 0.23, 0.25, and 0.27
3) 053 CT1 with 2.5mm: 0.09, 0.11, 0.10, and 0.12
4) 053 CT1 with 4.4mm: 0.06, 0.12, 0.10, and 0.11

The 053 CT1 cables look very close to the 115 milliohm number you have on your list for MMCX connectors. I think the C16-3 numbers here might be some of the first measurements reported for those cables if I am not mistaken. Do they look to be in the ballpark of what might be expected for the 16 core wires being used?

Hope others find this information useful...

Cheers,
Tim
 
Dec 6, 2019 at 5:49 AM Post #3,514 of 9,223
Looking for a specific set of Cable...

* Pure Copper.
* Ear Hooks.
* Flushed / Semi-Flushed 2Pins Connectors (0.78mm).
* 4.4 / 2.5 Balanced.
* Around / under $100 USD. (The Cheaper the Better)

Thanks.
Cable 170/171 might be good.

Edit :
US $82.00 | UP-OCC COPPER litz structure 4Core Upgraded Copper Cable litz 3.5/2.5/4.4mm Earphone Cable MMCX 2PIN
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/4gKSe4cg
 
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Dec 6, 2019 at 2:03 PM Post #3,515 of 9,223
@hakuzen if you could only have 3 cables which ones would you take? I'm guessing 175,174 and 198 so that you can cover everything from bass, balanced to treble.
175 (balanced) and 174 (bright) for sure. about a darker cable, i'm not sure, but this is because i use to avoid bass boost everywhere due to my personal preference. i like cables 210 and 170/171 for bass, but both are in the tight textured side. so yes, 198 is appropriated if you are looking for huger bass cable.

Deciding between the 090 and 196 to replace my broken stock cable for my CE6P, which would be the better choice? They seem to be almost the same price and build quality.
I'm mainly looking for a cable that is very soft and flexible at around the 30-50 USD price range.
Thanks in advance.
090 is a good and affordable copper cable. i prefer 196 (hybrid), though. better plugs quality, more balanced perception, better highs.
but for CE6P, you could consider to invest a bit more in a UP-OCC cable. you'd notice and enjoy the difference. cables 175 (silver+copper, 4 cores) or 170 (copper, 4 cores), for example.

Cable #170 Arrived !

Never really knew what people meant by Beautiful cable until I got this. Very soft supple cable that feels like a woven silk thread rather than a metal copper cable. Can’t help touching it in amazement.
Loving the colour too.

The build quality of cable is superb - very impressive for hand built. The mmcx fitting with DM6 is perfect.
Definitely better than I imagined and I’m a fussy person.

I purchased the Balanced 2.5MM version even though I don’t have a source with balance out yet. That source is on order - FIIO BTR5. Looking forward to experiencing the cable in a Balanced setup.

For now I’m using the ddHiFi 2.5-3.5mm adapter to connect to my LG V30 DAP.

Sound wise I’m very pleased using it with current setup. I have only had a short period of listening in the day hours. Sub bass has more texture, soundstage is improved and there is no loss of detail in the highs even though it is all copper cable. Sparkly and detailed without spikes that some say of DM6.

I need undisturbed evening listening time to really get a better grip of the sound quality.

Some porn for now ..



yea, glad you enjoy it. soundstage, black background, textured lows, and no loss detail at highs, turns 170/171 in my favorite copper cable.

Cable 170/171 might be good.

Edit :
US $82.00 | UP-OCC COPPER litz structure 4Core Upgraded Copper Cable litz 3.5/2.5/4.4mm Earphone Cable MMCX 2PIN
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/4gKSe4cg
i concur on this
 
Dec 6, 2019 at 2:09 PM Post #3,516 of 9,223
Hey there @hakuzen - received my 11/11 order a few days ago (NiceHCK C16-3 and 053 CT1 from your list - all with MMCX from the NiceHCK store on AE) and finally got around to doing some resistance measurements (Brymen BM867s with 2 decimal places in delta-ohm mode - no milliohm available though...) and here are the results starting at the tip of the male jack:

1) C16-3 with 2.5mm: 0.31, 0.25, 0.26, and 0.25
2) C16-3 with 4.4mm: 0.29, 0.23, 0.25, and 0.27
3) 053 CT1 with 2.5mm: 0.09, 0.11, 0.10, and 0.12
4) 053 CT1 with 4.4mm: 0.06, 0.12, 0.10, and 0.11

The 053 CT1 cables look very close to the 115 milliohm number you have on your list for MMCX connectors. I think the C16-3 numbers here might be some of the first measurements reported for those cables if I am not mistaken. Do they look to be in the ballpark of what might be expected for the 16 core wires being used?

Hope others find this information useful...

Cheers,
Tim
thanks for measuring! your measurements are very valid to me, i could add them to my database if you like.
yes, they are in the line of previous measured 16 cores cables. and i expect wire quality will be similar too. maybe the plugs could be a bit better than previous ones, but can't confirm it.
 
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Dec 6, 2019 at 2:40 PM Post #3,517 of 9,223
thanks for measuring! your measurements are very valid to me, i could add them to my database if you like.
yes, they are in the line of previous measured 16 cores cables. and i expect wire quality will be similar too. maybe the plugs could be a bit better than previous ones, but can't confirm it.
Appreciate your feedback and confirmation on the numbers,

Please feel free to use my measurements as you see fit!

Cheers,
Tim
 
Dec 6, 2019 at 9:30 PM Post #3,518 of 9,223
Hi, been eyeing for a bang for the back cable for TRN V90 at the 40$ and below mark is there such thing like that? Or should I upgrade my expectations regarding the word "cheap" (like the name of this thread) and spend 100$ just for a cable? Thank you.
 
Dec 6, 2019 at 9:57 PM Post #3,519 of 9,223
Hi, been eyeing for a bang for the back cable for TRN V90 at the 40$ and below mark is there such thing like that? Or should I upgrade my expectations regarding the word "cheap" (like the name of this thread) and spend 100$ just for a cable? Thank you.
for a $40 iem, i wouldn't suggest spending more than $15-$20 in a cable. anyway, if your budget is $40, last cables checked in that segment are ok, 090, 192, 196 in my list.
for trn v90, i'd pick cable 196 from the three, to help vocals and treble.
 
Dec 7, 2019 at 1:09 AM Post #3,521 of 9,223
cable 192. imo, it's the best 6N OCC/UP-OCC copper litz cable below $40 in my list. ultra flexible and soft, check comments in my database. its price has been lowered a lot during last two days, matching the price of DIYing it. the link has also changed.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000413868760.html
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When will you compare it with the Faaeal Hibiscus Litz cable or have you already?
 
Dec 7, 2019 at 1:42 PM Post #3,522 of 9,223
Anyone own this cable?
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There is also one identical cable from a banned seller which looks same and description but the price is 25 percent lower and free shipping.
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Anyone have experience with the above cables.I am planning to pair with zs10 pro.
 
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Dec 7, 2019 at 4:25 PM Post #3,523 of 9,223
When will you compare it with the Faaeal Hibiscus Litz cable or have you already?
i don't have it sorry. it doesn't look bad.
Anyone own this cable?

There is also one identical cable from a banned seller which looks same and description but the price is 25 percent lower and free shipping.

Anyone have experience with the above cables.I am planning to pair with zs10 pro.
it's cable 115 in the database (all of them, just different plugs). i own the transparent sheath one. very nice looking cable. stiff, not much flexible. good conductivity. decent silver plated copper cable, sound is ok.
i think it can pair well with zs10 pro.
 
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Dec 7, 2019 at 5:05 PM Post #3,524 of 9,223
cable 192. imo, it's the best 6N OCC/UP-OCC copper litz cable below $40 in my list. ultra flexible and soft, check comments in my database. its price has been lowered a lot during last two days, matching the price of DIYing it. the link has also changed.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000413868760.html
RS-series-6N-single-crystal-copper-4-core-headset-upgrade-cable.jpg



no taxes charged to spain here.
so the whole aliexpress site is charging taxes when buying from US? it sounds like another chapter of commercial war between US and China

Do you happen to know if these have Ear Hooks? Pure Copper right? The next one / step up would be the : US $82.00 | UP-OCC COPPER litz structure 4Core Upgraded Copper Cable litz 3.5/2.5/4.4mm Earphone Cable MMCX 2PIN
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/4gKSe4cg

Right?
 
Dec 7, 2019 at 5:15 PM Post #3,525 of 9,223

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