[chicolom]

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I am not really an amp expert and wanted to know if PC > E10 > Lyr > HE500 will sound different than PC > E10 > E9 > Lyr > HE500
 
I ask because with dacs in this price range I always found their soundstage to lack in comparison to something like the E9.  The Lyr will sound different depending on the source, if it is double amped through something cheap like the E9 do you think the soundstage will be audibly bigger than if it were absent and running through only the E10? 
 
 

 
Why not just get a DAC with bigger soundstage and amp that from the Lyr? 

 

[swbf2cheater]

I'm cheap.

 

[Digital-Pride]

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I'm cheap.

That is not an excuse, my friend.  This is Head-fi after all.

 

[JoetheArachnid]

If anything I'd expect the double amping to lead to greater distortion and increase any possible channel imbalances, which would kill soundstage pretty nicely.

 

[ClieOS]

If anything I'd expect the double amping to lead to greater distortion and increase any possible channel imbalances, which would kill soundstage pretty nicely.

E10 has line-out, so double amping isn't a problem.

 

[djevoultion]

How do I set the E10 to 96/24bit? (Using Windows 7)
 
Also in Properties > Supported Formats in Sample Rates I tick 44.1Khz, 48.0Khz and 96.0Khz? Right?
 
At the moment in Properties > Supported Formats > Advanced under Default Format I have it set to "2 channel, 16bit, 96000 Hz Studio Quality"

 

[JoetheArachnid]

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E10 has line-out, so double amping isn't a problem.

swbf2cheater was talking about putting the E9 in the chain between the E10 and the Lyr though. If that's not double-amping then I've been doing things wrong for a while

 

[ClieOS]

swbf2cheater was talking about putting the E9 in the chain between the E10 and the Lyr though. If that's not double-amping then I've been doing things wrong for a while

Good point, I misread the E10 > E9 > Lyr to just E10 > Lyr. In that case, there is certainly no point of adding an E9 in between.

 

[Quest4theBest]

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Good point, I misread the E10 > E9 > Lyr to just E10 > Lyr. In that case, there is certainly no point of adding an E9 in between.

Hey ClieOS, can you do this? 
 
Computer onboard audio (bad quality) ---> E10 DAC (pretty good quality) (via headphone out??)-----> a 2.1 amp (or receiver?) (with a subwoofer out)  to power Bookshelf speakers at about 20~watt 8ohm 88db sensitivity for a quite decent 2.1 PC setup? Thanks!

 

[ClieOS]

Hey ClieOS, can you do this? 

Computer onboard audio (bad quality) ---> E10 DAC (pretty good quality) (via headphone out??)-----> a 2.1 amp (or receiver?) (with a subwoofer out)  to power Bookshelf speakers at about 20~watt 8ohm 88db sensitivity for a quite decent 2.1 PC setup? Thanks!

You can, but you should use the line-out on E10 instead, unless you want to use E10 like a pre-amp.

 

[kingpage]

E10 doesn't take in analog signal, as it only has USB as input. PC>USB>E10>Line-out>power amp>speakers

 

[chicolom]

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How do I set the E10 to 96/24bit? (Using Windows 7)
 
Also in Properties > Supported Formats in Sample Rates I tick 44.1Khz, 48.0Khz and 96.0Khz? Right?
 
At the moment in Properties > Supported Formats > Advanced under Default Format I have it set to "2 channel, 16bit, 96000 Hz Studio Quality"

 
I have the Default (shared) format set to 24bit/44.1 khz.  The downside to setting it to 24/96 for default is that most stuff which is not 96khz will have to undergo sample rate conversion (not up-sampling) to 96khz which can potentially degrade the sound.
 
Setting up WASAPI or ASIO in a music player should make it bypass the default shared sample rate and instead use the native rate for each song.  So if you jump from a song with 44.1khz to a song that has a 96khz sample rate, the player will switch to send that sample rate the E10. 
 
I have all the same boxes ticked in supported formats.  I'm not sure what happens if you don't tick them as the FiiO doesn't have any indicators on what sample rate it's receiving AFAIK.

 

[Quest4theBest]

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E10 doesn't take in analog signal, as it only has USB as input. PC>USB>E10>Line-out>power amp>speakers

What do you think would be a more....enjoyful experience? 2 bookshelf speakers with 8" woofers plus a 10" sub or DT990 pro with the buttkicker? both with E10

 

[kingpage]

I have never had nice speakers before, but I'd imagine a proper speaker set up will be more accurate. I actually only heard of the buttkicker recently. I think it would be a different experience from a sub.
 
How about speakers+woofer+sub+buttkicker? Or a sub+DT990 pro+buttkicker?

 

[Quest4theBest]

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I have never had nice speakers before, but I'd imagine a proper speaker set up will be more accurate. I actually only heard of the buttkicker recently. I think it would be a different experience from a sub.
 
How about speakers+woofer+sub+buttkicker? Or a sub+DT990 pro+buttkicker?

http://www.amazon.com/PTAU23-Stereo-Power-Amplifier-Inputs/dp/B003NVOWJS/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1324185632&sr=1-4 ----Can you use that for a sub? Cant seem to be finding any cheap 2.1 amps :/ help me ?! 25 Watt is enough per chanel at 8ohm/88db sensitivity.
 
Also, ive heard that the sub kind of drowns out the Buttkicker, and dosent the Sub + headphones kind of affect the sound? the dt990 pro are open...dunno...