[ruthieandjohn]

Oh, and for those frugal folks who ask the reasonable question of "how does the Lotoo PAW 5000 sound in comparison to its 12-times-more-expensive big brother," I offer the following ditty:
 
Oh, give me your pity
My ears must be sh**ty
I can't quite distinguish
5000 from Gold.
 
With my Grado headphones
And hi-def Norah Jones
I listen at first to
5000, then Gold.
 
I test the same phrases
Dear Norah, she raises
The question, "Why sounds the
5000 like Gold?"
 
But wait! There's a difference!
The soundstage, bass, presence
Is just a bit less for
5000 than Gold!
 
(WHEW!!!!)
 
 
 
(Oh, and the PAW Gold produces 500 mW into 32 ohms, while the PAW 5000 produces 75 mW into 16 ohms (couldn't find a 32 ohm spec for it). 

 

[kpfeifle]

I will put something together once they come. I have a feeling my preference for stong bass impact will have me liking the L-Cush better but I will get some G-Cush on order this week. I have read the love fest GH-1 thread.

When I demoed the GH-1 agents the PS500e I felt like the Gh-1's Mids were a hair more forward (2k peak?) and the highs were a hair brighter. The PS500e seemed cleaner to me with less housing coloration. But this was a quick A/B as my wife was demoing/buy an amp and I was just messing around.

My gut tells me the PS500e is underrated. Maybe with the PS500 (I have not heard it) being darker scared people off from the PS500e. But I feel like they are the best but in the line up so it will be interesting to compare the GH-1 as many people seem to think it is the best bang for the buck Grado to date.

James,

I will be interested to hear your thoughts as well! I will be comparing my GH1 to my HF2, by all reports this is an early version of the PS500, this should be fun!

 

[wladrus]

[color=rgb(33, 33, 33)] Hello! Some photos Grado headphones from Russia.[/color]

 
http://www.head-fi.org/g/a/1108241/grado-gleb/

http://forum.doctorhead.ru/index.php?showtopic=24936&st=350

 

[Arty McGhee]

  Oh, and for those frugal folks who ask the reasonable question of "how does the Lotoo PAW 5000 sound in comparison to its 12-times-more-expensive big brother," I offer the following ditty:
 
Oh, give me your pity
My ears must be sh**ty
I can't quite distinguish
5000 from Gold.
 
With my Grado headphones
And hi-def Norah Jones
I listen at first to
5000, then Gold.
 
I test the same phrases
Dear Norah, she raises
The question, "Why sounds the
5000 like Gold?"
 
But wait! There's a difference!
The soundstage, bass, presence
Is just a bit less for
5000 than Gold!
 
(WHEW!!!!)
 
 
 
(Oh, and the PAW Gold produces 500 mW into 32 ohms, while the PAW 5000 produces 75 mW into 16 ohms (couldn't find a 32 ohm spec for it). 

so is it $2000.00 better?
 
i bit on the paw 5000, for $200 bucks it does balanced and has some nice features
(assignable function button, fancy eq,, nice form factor, bluetooths)
the sound is good, but with grados its fantastic, buttoned  rs1, sr60 pink driver both sound amazing
its a great little player and definitely matches up great with grados, while the gold version
is a little out of my price range, do you think its worth the extra cash?

 

[ruthieandjohn]

  so is it $2000.00 better?
 
i bit on the paw 5000, for $200 bucks it does balanced and has some nice features
(assignable function button, fancy eq,, nice form factor, bluetooths)
the sound is good, but with grados its fantastic, buttoned  rs1, sr60 pink driver both sound amazing
its a great little player and definitely matches up great with grados, while the gold version
is a little out of my price range, do you think its worth the extra cash?

The Gold version is about 12x as powerful as the Lotoo PAW 5000, and costs about 12X as much!  That extra power makes it Very Good for harder-to-drive headphones like the Sennheiser HD800 and HiFIman HE1000, as well as the Grados.
 
And as indicated in my little ditty, there IS an improvement in soundstage, instrument imaging, and bass when you go from the PAW 5000 to the PAW Gold.
 
So when asked "Is the PAW Gold worth 12X as much as the PAW 5000?" I can with great confidence declare that it is just as worth that factor of 12 in cash as the $1,695 Grado PS1000e is over the $60 Grado SR60e, which is 1/12 the cash!

 

[Dillan]

Just catching up on all the posts after traveling for a little bit.

Congrats on everyone getting the gh1.. seems like an awesome headphone!! Wish I had a chance to hear it!

Edit- love the poem hahaha the lotoo seems like a very legitimate dap maker!!

 

[ruthieandjohn]

Just catching up on all the posts after traveling for a little bit.

Congrats on everyone getting the gh1.. seems like an awesome headphone!! Wish I had a chance to hear it!

Edit- love the poem hahaha the lotoo seems like a very legitimate dap maker!!

Yep! Lotoo's parent company has been making top quality professional audio and recording equipment for years. The LoToo PAW Gold is their first foray into portable audio, and they make it with professional quality, just as Sony sells its PHA-1 DAC/amp for iPod Lightening and 30 pin and USB from its professional audio line.

 

[WilliamLeonhart]

Oh, and for those frugal folks who ask the reasonable question of "how does the Lotoo PAW 5000 sound in comparison to its 12-times-more-expensive big brother," I offer the following ditty:

Oh, give me your pity

My ears must be sh**ty

I can't quite distinguish

5000 from Gold.


 


With my Grado headphones

And hi-def Norah Jones

I listen at first to

5000, then Gold.


 


I test the same phrases

Dear Norah, she raises

The question, "Why sounds the

5000 like Gold?"


 


But wait! There's a difference!

The soundstage, bass, presence

Is just a bit less for

5000 than Gold!


 


(WHEW!!!!)


 


 


 


(Oh, and the PAW Gold produces 500 mW into 32 ohms, while the PAW 5000 produces 75 mW into 16 ohms (couldn't find a 32 ohm spec for it). 

This thread is full of gold!

 

[Lavakugel]

After getting my new GH-1 couple hours ago, I'm enjoying it very much. 
 
It was a bit hard to spend such an amount, but I'm not looking back because this headphone is everything people are writing in this forum. And I just pulled it out of box...improvement will be there after hours of burning in.

 

[kpfeifle]

After getting my new GH-1 couple hours ago, I'm enjoying it very much. 

It was a bit hard to spend such an amount, but I'm not looking back because this headphone is everything people are writing in this forum. And I just pulled it out of box...improvement will be there after hours of burning in.

I received mine yesterday and totally agree! A very special headphone, even without break in....and it will only get better. Glad you are enjoying yours as much as I am.

 

[james6333]

I'm really interested to hear your thoughts on the GH1 vs your current PS500e, once the GH1s arrive and you get to spend some time with them.  You may want to try the G cushions on the GH1 as well.  To me, they sound better than the L.

Posted my out of the box thoughts in the GH-1 Thread. Post 947.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/775282/grado-gh-1-discussion/945#post_12964407

 

[AdamWysokinski]

Hello from a new Grado SR225e owner.
In head to head comparison they were so much better in their price range (HIFIMAN HE-400I, Sennheiser HD 600, Beyerdynamic DT 880).
I love their clear, detailed, natural, so lively and energetic sound. I'm super satisfied.
 
Regards,
Adam

 

[james6333]

Hello from a new Grado SR225e owner.
In head to head comparison they were so much better in their price range (HIFIMAN HE-400I, Sennheiser HD 600, Beyerdynamic DT 880).
I love their clear, detailed, natural, so lively and energetic sound. I'm super satisfied.

Regards,
Adam

I believe it. Even the SR60e is great and out performs headphones costing far more. I have chosen the PS500e over lots of "good" headphones I have owed or demoed (Focal, Elear, LCD-X/2, TH900, HE560, GS1000e etc).

 

[ruthieandjohn]

Hello from a new Grado SR225e owner.
In head to head comparison they were so much better in their price range (HIFIMAN HE-400I, Sennheiser HD 600, Beyerdynamic DT 880).
I love their clear, detailed, natural, so lively and energetic sound. I'm super satisfied.

Regards,
Adam

Whew! That is some Heavy Competition that your new Grados beat out! Welcome to GradoLand.

 

[headfry]

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I'm really interested to hear your thoughts on the GH1 vs your current PS500e, once the GH1s arrive and you get to spend some time with them.  You may want to try the G cushions on the GH1 as well.  To me, they sound better than the L.

Posted my out of the box thoughts in the GH-1 Thread. Post 947.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/775282/grado-gh-1-discussion/945#post_12964407

 
 
James,
 
 
Thanks for your very nice review.....you've confirmed that the PS500e and the GH1 are virtually
the same headphone in sq....and that the PS500e is definitely underrated. At an audio show a couple years ago, I
briefly tried all the "e" series and was struck at the similarity of house sound...and at the time the PS500e was my overall fave
(the GH1 was not yet released).
 
Your findings echo this online review.....they said that the two phones are 99% the same and
can be made to sound like each other with slight eq (...you said 98%....):
 
 
 
http://headfonics.com/2015/10/the-heritage-series-gh1-by-grado/2/
 
 
...I would also like to reiterate that the GS1000 series (i series in particular) are also underrated here...stellar
phone...esp. after long burn in and at lowish volumes!