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Oct 29, 2022 at 3:35 PM Post #57,226 of 65,942
Funnily the Grados (on ear like the Hemp/225x anyway, which are shaped similarly to the RS1) were the least sonically affected by glasses for me, I assumed because they're both open-back and on ear so there's less for the glasses to mess up. Now something like the Beyer 1770, those were completely altered.
 
Oct 29, 2022 at 3:47 PM Post #57,227 of 65,942
Funnily the Grados (on ear like the Hemp/225x anyway, which are shaped similarly to the RS1) were the least sonically affected by glasses for me, I assumed because they're both open-back and on ear so there's less for the glasses to mess up. Now something like the Beyer 1770, those were completely altered.
That makes sense - I’m using a jumbo pad, which is more over ear than on ear and, also, shares a lot more surface area with the stems.
 
Oct 29, 2022 at 3:52 PM Post #57,228 of 65,942
That makes sense - I’m using a jumbo pad, which is more over ear than on ear and, also, shares a lot more surface area with the stems.
Oh yeah that makes a ton more sense. I also admit I have kinda big ears so "on ear" for me definitely means the entire pad is completely resting on my ear.
 
Oct 29, 2022 at 10:33 PM Post #57,229 of 65,942
So the adapter arrived today and I was able to play some actual music through the GS1000x's (about 1 hr of bass guitar and 1 hr of music). After some initial break the big question is do the 225x's with G pads sound like GS1000x's? A resounding NO! The 1000s are an entirely different beast. A little zesty in the treble compared to the 225s with f pads but it adds a nice energy to the sound. The vocals are less intimate and forward on the 1000s but that's fine with me. The bass is more complex. Soundstage does wonders for tracks that feel congested.

Anyway, these are far from broken in but I'm happy with them. Are they 5 times better then 225s? No...at least not so far. I believe the 1000x's live in the realm of diminishing returns but are no slouch in general. A better amp, dac, and some more break in time should do them well.
 
Oct 30, 2022 at 3:04 AM Post #57,230 of 65,942
Same as other things. Double pris isn’t double value.
But Grado 1000 and obove offer:
-nice and bigger cups
-big plug and a nice fat cable
-metal gimbals(rs1 and above)
-better headband
-bigger drivers,better bass.more body
-better looking,better build
-better FR go higher if your ears is young:
  • Frequency Response: 8 - 35,000 hz
So why not? Better is better
 
Oct 30, 2022 at 10:04 AM Post #57,231 of 65,942
20-20,000 is the range of human hearing and anything above ~14,000 is gonna be barely audible "air" type sounds. Below 20Hz you're going to be just feeling a rumble, not hearing a tone. On either end of the spectrum literally no normal music (read: music that's not intentionally trying to be weird) goes there. I'm not discounting that they sound better but there is genuinely no one who can hear anything above 20KHz.
 
Oct 30, 2022 at 2:12 PM Post #57,233 of 65,942
20-20,000 is the range of human hearing and anything above ~14,000 is gonna be barely audible "air" type sounds. Below 20Hz you're going to be just feeling a rumble, not hearing a tone. On either end of the spectrum literally no normal music (read: music that's not intentionally trying to be weird) goes there. I'm not discounting that they sound better but there is genuinely no one who can hear anything above 20KHz.
This is all true; however, my dog likes to borrow my Grados when I'm not home and she really digs that extended frequency range :wink:
 
Oct 30, 2022 at 3:32 PM Post #57,234 of 65,942
This is all true; however, my dog likes to borrow my Grados when I'm not home and she really digs that extended frequency range :wink:

Probably just the leather headband. They're chewy goodness :)
 
Oct 30, 2022 at 7:58 PM Post #57,235 of 65,942
Coming up on 1 week with my GH4 that I bought after demoing the x-series models at the Grado booth at Toronto AudioFest.

After my beater SR225i went out of commission, it's nice to finally have another model I can just take around and enjoy without messing with any extra stuff. This can plug in directly to a phone or old portable CD player with a 3.5mm jack and still sound great to me, something that can't be said with my GS3000e or Hemp. I'm not sure how long Grado Canada will stock the old 44mm drivers for service/repair purposes, so these will be babied more. I'll need to find a good travel case for them that doesn't compress the headband much, as I like it very wide.

Comfort is great. With a very wide headband, the GH4 (180g) is significantly more comfortable than my GS3000e (330g) even with the L pads. The GS3000e weight is OK for me but I would say it's at my upper tolerance limit, which is why the GS3000x (400g) was out of the question.

As an experiment, I put the G pads on the GH4 and attempted to EQ it to match the sound of my GS3000e. This was something I tried earlier with the Hemp. I got closer this time, but the GH4 just couldn't quite replicate the GS3000e. The GS3000e just sounded fuller and wider. It was clear that the larger cup size, wood type (cocobolo vs. Norway pine), and drivers on the GS3000e were doing something that the GH4 wasn't. It's like how you can't EQ Apple Airpods to sound like a Stax. In addition, the overall volume was less with the G pads, which meant I had to feed it more power. And the GH4's drivers struggled with this, as I could hear some distortion in the midbass. The GS3000e, on the other hand, was able to dig deep and deliver the midbass with no noticeable distortion. Perhaps this is why Grado changed their drivers on the GS/PS models (except PS500e) to 50mm, so that they could deliver more bass without distorting. With the L pads and the same amount of power, the GH4 is way too loud, so this wouldn't happen at stock.

Overall, the GH4 is an absolute keeper, though I feel a bit of sadness as the GH4 may be the last model I buy new if Grado continues to push their x-series sound signature moving forward. I'm not the only person who feels this way, as rasmushorn preferred the SR225e over the SR225x and felt the same way as me on some things, such as the detail and clarity difference.
 
Oct 30, 2022 at 9:47 PM Post #57,237 of 65,942
Oct 30, 2022 at 10:43 PM Post #57,238 of 65,942
This is all true; however, my dog likes to borrow my Grados when I'm not home and she really digs that extended frequency range** 😉
….what about the non-detachable bone cable?…
 
Oct 31, 2022 at 11:20 AM Post #57,240 of 65,942
Is there any wood that guitar polish can’t make pretty?

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