Final Audio Design Impressions and Discussion Thread
Oct 10, 2017 at 4:47 PM Post #7,471 of 11,644
An update. A&K later responded that they actually can replace the cable - and they sent me a new one. That fixed the problem, but the new cable is thicker and heavier than the original, which tends to pull the IEMs out of my ears easily. Also they have more microphonics.

Any chance you can take a closeup picture of the A&K replacement cable? I own the AKR02 as well, and I’d like to see what they’re replacing the stock cable with.
 
Oct 11, 2017 at 11:40 AM Post #7,472 of 11,644
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Any chance you can take a closeup picture of the A&K replacement cable? I own the AKR02 as well, and I’d like to see what they’re replacing the stock cable with.

Here you go, wth pics of the Q-Jay cable as well. As you can see there's a huge difference. The new cable is very high quality, but stiff.

The new cable is the thicker one on the top. I'll try wearing it over the ears - thanks for the suggestion.
 
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Oct 11, 2017 at 12:29 PM Post #7,473 of 11,644


Here you go, wth pics of the Q-Jay cable as well. As you can see there's a huge difference. The new cable is very high quality, but stiff.

The new cable is the thicker one on the top. I'll try wearing it over the ears - thanks for the suggestion.

Thank you for posting the picture. Interesting, my AKR02 came with the thicker cable, not the thinner one that came with yours. It’s good to know if I ever have an issue, A&K has it in stock. I bought my AKR02 new from an authorized dealer at the beginning of this year.

I’m familiar with JAYS cable since I own the q-JAYS AE, which, by the way, is a great sounding IEM for $350.

I’m using the final E-series tips on my AKR02, and I don’t have any issue with them falling out when used with them hanging down. These are my reference earphones strictly for home use.

You could cut off the outer clear PVC jacket to make it less unwieldy leaving ½ inch on each end for strain relief if over the ear use doesn’t work for you.
 
Oct 12, 2017 at 10:37 PM Post #7,474 of 11,644
Thank you for posting the picture. Interesting, my AKR02 came with the thicker cable, not the thinner one that came with yours. It’s good to know if I ever have an issue, A&K has it in stock. I bought my AKR02 new from an authorized dealer at the beginning of this year.

I’m familiar with JAYS cable since I own the q-JAYS AE, which, by the way, is a great sounding IEM for $350.

I’m using the final E-series tips on my AKR02, and I don’t have any issue with them falling out when used with them hanging down. These are my reference earphones strictly for home use.

You could cut off the outer clear PVC jacket to make it less unwieldy leaving ½ inch on each end for strain relief if over the ear use doesn’t work for you.

Thanks for the suggestions. I guess everyone's ears are different, as mine keep falling out no matter what, even with the cables over the ears. I might look into getting an extra-large tip, or maybe a custom. Any thoughts on who makes custom tips for these?

This guy used snugs: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/nov/29/lost-in-music-the-world-of-obsessive-audiophilia

If you want a replacement cable I would suggest contacting A&K soon, as they might not have them in the future. Their initial response was that they did not have replacement cables, and only later did they offer to replace them.
 
Oct 13, 2017 at 9:16 AM Post #7,475 of 11,644
Thanks for the suggestions. I guess everyone's ears are different, as mine keep falling out no matter what, even with the cables over the ears. I might look into getting an extra-large tip, or maybe a custom. Any thoughts on who makes custom tips for these?

This guy used snugs: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/nov/29/lost-in-music-the-world-of-obsessive-audiophilia

If you want a replacement cable I would suggest contacting A&K soon, as they might not have them in the future. Their initial response was that they did not have replacement cables, and only later did they offer to replace them.

Thank you for the tip on the cable. Regarding tips that may help your situation, I’m not familiar with the snugs (although I’ve read good things), but how about Comply foam tips? They’re inexpensive and they will definitely help with keeping the AKR02 in place. The T400 are the series that work.

Best of luck resolving the issue ... worth the effort since the AKR02 is a beautiful sounding earphone.
 
Oct 13, 2017 at 6:35 PM Post #7,476 of 11,644
Thank you for the tip on the cable. Regarding tips that may help your situation, I’m not familiar with the snugs (although I’ve read good things), but how about Comply foam tips? They’re inexpensive and they will definitely help with keeping the AKR02 in place. The T400 are the series that work.

Best of luck resolving the issue ... worth the effort since the AKR02 is a beautiful sounding earphone.

Thanks, I am using the Comply tips and they do work. I just prefer the less intrusive tips that come with the AKR02. Agree the sound is amazing!
 
Oct 25, 2017 at 11:23 AM Post #7,477 of 11,644
It finally happened; the glue that holds the back of the FI-BA-SS was glue no more.
the result: a nice look inside the IEM.
Also tried to do an 'A-B' between the left and right IEM (with mono audio) and without the back on, there's slightly less bass.

here's some pics for those interested:
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Oct 25, 2017 at 11:28 AM Post #7,478 of 11,644
It finally happened; the glue that holds the back of the FI-BA-SS was glue no more.
the result: a nice look inside the IEM.
Also tried to do an 'A-B' between the left and right IEM (with mono audio) and without the back on, there's slightly less bass.

here's some pics for those interested:

This has happened before with others. I’m not sure what type of glue one needs to reattach the casing.
 
Oct 25, 2017 at 3:17 PM Post #7,479 of 11,644
This has happened before with others. I’m not sure what type of glue one needs to reattach the casing.

Cyanoacrylate works for me. just be careful it doesn't touch any rubber, but for the stainless steel it's great.
 
Nov 9, 2017 at 4:28 PM Post #7,481 of 11,644
How does the Heaven II compare to the E3000?

E3000 is fuller and more fun and dynamic, Heaven II is more detailed but lacking in body and a bit thin sounding.

Personally I'd take the E3000

Comply tips warm up the heaven II to some extent but overall the E3000 is nicer to listen to.
 
Nov 10, 2017 at 2:53 PM Post #7,483 of 11,644
Hey guys. I've been playing with my Piano Forte X-CC for half a month. It just blows me away. Magnificent for pop, instrumental, blues (I started listening to blues thanks to them), and also quieter alternative. Once you wear it right, you feel like you are in a concert hall indeed. I don't want to listen to my Beyerdynamic T1 2nd Gen for the time being. Granted, they are not for every genre and everyone, and I wouldn't listen to rock with them. But, still, they are a pair of masterpieces! The melancholic songs just get to me. I'm more than amazed!
 
Nov 10, 2017 at 4:26 PM Post #7,484 of 11,644
Hey guys. I've been playing with my Piano Forte X-CC for half a month. It just blows me away. Magnificent for pop, instrumental, blues (I started listening to blues thanks to them), and also quieter alternative. Once you wear it right, you feel like you are in a concert hall indeed. I don't want to listen to my Beyerdynamic T1 2nd Gen for the time being. Granted, they are not for every genre and everyone, and I wouldn't listen to rock with them. But, still, they are a pair of masterpieces! The melancholic songs just get to me. I'm more than amazed!

Congrats on your X-CC. One day, I would like to own these from all the great comments I’ve read. I’m a big fan of final.
 
Nov 10, 2017 at 5:57 PM Post #7,485 of 11,644
Congrats on your X-CC. One day, I would like to own these from all the great comments I’ve read. I’m a big fan of final.

This was an impulse purchase for me because of a recent personal event. However, I don't regret even a bit. I tried Piano Fort VIII as well, Not a huge fan. Too muddy. Stay tuned for their second generation models with a suffix of -T, like Piano Forte X-T. Those should have tiny tweaks and come with silver cables, but are just not available in North America yet.
 

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