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Final Audio D8000 Planar Magnetic Headphone
DMS reviews the D8000 Pro above.
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^ already posted on the previous page
^ already posted on the previous page
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Hi, guys. Some updates after puttin over 15 hrs more on the LE.
Again, I must point that these are subjective impressions and YMMV.
I stand on what I said on my first post. The LE sounds a bit more neutral than the regular Pro, with the sensation of more air and clarity (not by much).
The regular has a denser tonality and sounds more intimate, you could even say more euphonic.
Yesterday I visited a friend,which is also in this hobby, and after some hours of listening and comparisons, he ended up with the same opinion than me.
What I can say almost 100% is that they definitely are not the exact same headphones. And I'll try to explain it with an example. I wanted to switch pads to see if they were the only responsible for the tonal diferences so I swapped them. The results were that the regular pro with the Washi pads looses a lot bass and gets very dry, loosing the great balance between neutral/fun that both the regular Pro and the LE has. So Im sorry but I woulnd't recommend the Washi pads for the regular Pro owners.
In the other hand, the LE with the G pads from the regular pro, got bassier and warmer. Not only having more bass than the LE with stock washi pads, but bassier than the regular pro on it stocks form.
This drives me to one conclussion. The LE got tuned according to the Washi pads. The washi pads reduce bass so they had to tune the LE according to this to not loose the fun bass of the D8K line.
I know you might be thinking that it's obvious cause all headphones should be tuned with their stock pads, but I should point it cause it's a key difference.
The thing is that, so far, I can't choose which I prefer, cause in some tracks I prefer the LE, while in others I like the regular more. It's really a tough choice and I will keep spending time to get more conclussions.
Anyways, just my thoughts and I could be pretty much wrong, that's why Id love some measurements.
Again, I must point that these are subjective impressions and YMMV.
I stand on what I said on my first post. The LE sounds a bit more neutral than the regular Pro, with the sensation of more air and clarity (not by much).
The regular has a denser tonality and sounds more intimate, you could even say more euphonic.
Yesterday I visited a friend,which is also in this hobby, and after some hours of listening and comparisons, he ended up with the same opinion than me.
What I can say almost 100% is that they definitely are not the exact same headphones. And I'll try to explain it with an example. I wanted to switch pads to see if they were the only responsible for the tonal diferences so I swapped them. The results were that the regular pro with the Washi pads looses a lot bass and gets very dry, loosing the great balance between neutral/fun that both the regular Pro and the LE has. So Im sorry but I woulnd't recommend the Washi pads for the regular Pro owners.
In the other hand, the LE with the G pads from the regular pro, got bassier and warmer. Not only having more bass than the LE with stock washi pads, but bassier than the regular pro on it stocks form.
This drives me to one conclussion. The LE got tuned according to the Washi pads. The washi pads reduce bass so they had to tune the LE according to this to not loose the fun bass of the D8K line.
I know you might be thinking that it's obvious cause all headphones should be tuned with their stock pads, but I should point it cause it's a key difference.
The thing is that, so far, I can't choose which I prefer, cause in some tracks I prefer the LE, while in others I like the regular more. It's really a tough choice and I will keep spending time to get more conclussions.
Anyways, just my thoughts and I could be pretty much wrong, that's why Id love some measurements.
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LE is quite bass shy compared to OG.
Keep in mind im comparing it with the regular D8K Pro, not the D8000 og.LE is quite bass shy compared to OG.
Yes i know but LE is less basier of all D8000, on other hand they are most detali and have best resolution.
Exactly my thoughts, althought I woulnd't call the LE bass shy, more like linear bass.Yes i know but LE is less basier of all D8000, on other hand they are most detali and have best resolution.
Pharmaboy
Headphoneus Supremus
I've never heard the Pro, much less the LE Pro. But I read comments like this and think, "Exactly what has Final accomplished here?"LE is quite bass shy compared to OG.
My D8000 with the Pro's "G" pads has perhaps the best bass I've ever heard (definitely in quality, if perhaps not also in absolute quantity [which can be overrated]), and I would never want less of that bass goodness. I also wouldn't want more energy in the upper midrange and low treble than what I'm getting now, which according to reviews/comments I've read, are things that come along with the Pro vs D8000.
This is a case where I can't really comment about the sound of headphones I haven't heard--but I'm very happy to stay right where I am.
jonathan c
Headphoneus Supremus
^^ Bravo! … there is a surplus of experts of the unknown …I've never heard the Pro, much less the LE Pro. But I read comments like this and think, "Exactly what has Final accomplished here?"
My D8000 with the Pro's "G" pads has perhaps the best bass I've ever heard (definitely in quality, if perhaps not also in absolute quantity [which can be overrated]), and I would never want less of that bass goodness. I also wouldn't want more energy in the upper midrange and low treble than what I'm getting now, which according to reviews/comments I've read, are things that come along with the Pro vs D8000.
This is a case where I can't really comment about the sound of headphones I haven't heard--but I'm very happy to stay right where I am.^^
Don't get me wrong, I take D8k LE over LCD-5, solitaire P, DCA Stealth...
Pharmaboy
Headphoneus Supremus
Do I detect a great "lost MCU franchise"?experts of the unknown
(heroes in colorful costumes flying around with pronounced expressions of confusion on their faces & muttering "W_T_F"?)
jonathan c
Headphoneus Supremus
…..with the British version titled ‘Doctor Proctor’….Do I detect a great "lost MCU franchise"?
(heroes in colorful costumes flying around with pronounced expressions of confusion on their faces & muttering "W_T_F"?)
You might got it wrong. The LE still got some amazing bass, punchy and clean, it's just not as coloured as others but still will destroy most of headphones in that regard. I also want a bit more upper midarange and I have the feeling that it has a bit more, cause I feel more voice clarity, but without measurements it's all suppositions.I've never heard the Pro, much less the LE Pro. But I read comments like this and think, "Exactly what has Final accomplished here?"
My D8000 with the Pro's "G" pads has perhaps the best bass I've ever heard (definitely in quality, if perhaps not also in absolute quantity [which can be overrated]), and I would never want less of that bass goodness. I also wouldn't want more energy in the upper midrange and low treble than what I'm getting now, which according to reviews/comments I've read, are things that come along with the Pro vs D8000.
This is a case where I can't really comment about the sound of headphones I haven't heard--but I'm very happy to stay right where I am.
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