Chinese / Asian Brand Info Thread (Headphones, IEMs, Amps, DACs)
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Jan 28, 2015 at 1:13 PM Post #14,131 of 35,472
Some think that the MH1C performs on a $100 level other think that they perform like a $15 iem.

Who's right and who's wrong????

It's all in the ears of the ones who use them.

Pretty much everything in here is about personal preference, unfortunately a lot of people have a hard time understanding this. That makes room for a lot of misunderstanding and argumentation that derail from what we're really here for: sharing the experience :wink:

Like someone already said there's no black or white.

Just my 2c
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 1:17 PM Post #14,132 of 35,472
Some think that the MH1C performs on a $100 level other think that they perform like a $15 iem.

Who's right and who's wrong????

It's all in the ears of the ones who use them.

Pretty much everything in here is about personal preference, unfortunately a lot of people have a hard time understanding this. That makes room for a lot of misunderstanding and argumentation that derail from what we're really here for: sharing the experience
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Like someone already said there's no black or white.

Just my 2c

So true, what's making it even more difficult is that people's preference change over time like myself. 
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Jan 28, 2015 at 1:19 PM Post #14,133 of 35,472
 
I agree, on a technical level, there are differences but we are often guided by our preferences. Its fine to prefer one over the other but yes, sometimes opinions are passed off as facts and it can be misleading. But I didn't say anything about Soundsoul being better than any other IEM :wink: 


Sorry, that wasn't directed at you. I was responding because you said what I was thinking. 
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 1:22 PM Post #14,135 of 35,472
The wording people use also causes miscommunication.

Saying the sound souls are better than the im70s and vice versa sounds pretty discriminating.

When you say that I prefer the sound souls to the im70s and vice versa, that's when the comment becomes easily understood.
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 1:29 PM Post #14,137 of 35,472
The wording people use also causes miscommunication.

Saying the sound souls are better than the im70s and vice versa sounds pretty discriminating.

When you say that I prefer the sound souls to the im70s and vice versa, that's when the comment becomes easily understood.

Yes, I don't like how people praise phones without concrete reasons, but only with with absolute terms like "better"
 
Instead of "better", I think it would be waaay more useful to describe it with less abstract terms like:
 
x has more subbass than y
x's treble is more extended than y
x's midrange sound more thick and warm than y
y soundstage is lacking in depth, but excels in width over x
 
and thus I prefer x over y.
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 1:39 PM Post #14,139 of 35,472
Yes, I don't like how people praise phones without concrete reasons, but only with with absolute terms like "better"

Instead of "better", I think it would be waaay more useful to describe it with less abstract terms like:

x has more subbass than y
x's treble is more extended than y
x's midrange sound more thick and warm than y
y soundstage is lacking in depth, but excels in width over x

and thus I prefer x over y.


That's the most reasonable explanation I've read. Thank you.

I'm guilty of not following something systematic like your post. I read my on1 review and found out that I wrote how amazing the thinksound on1s sound and how it demolishes the on ear headphones I own. Might have to fix that.
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 1:48 PM Post #14,140 of 35,472
The Chinese manufactured Massdrop AKG 7XX is back in another limited run that's 1/3rd sold already. You won't find a better headphone at $200, and it can be modded to balanced output.
Wanna hear some funny schiit? I was a part of the first drop, and still haven't got my pair, and the second drop will end before mine will even ship! Wth is that all about? I paid for them in November when I could have bought them this week, and I would have got them at the same time!
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 1:56 PM Post #14,141 of 35,472
Wanna hear some funny schiit? I was a part of the first drop, and still haven't got my pair, and the second drop will end before mine will even ship! Wth is that all about? I paid for them in November when I could have bought them this week, and I would have got them at the same time!

 
I've used massdrop a few times, and patience is the name of the game. But your experience takes patience to another level!
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 2:25 PM Post #14,142 of 35,472
 
They are definitely better than their current price would dictate, as to whether if they are better than the aforementioned IEMs I can't comment as I haven't heard them yet, but I can say that they are surprisingly close to my VSD3, which I got back yesterday. The sound soul isn't technically bette than my VSD3, but more often that not I find myself reaching for the S-018, I find it to be a bit more airy and clearer for most songs. Again YMMV. 
 
Its all boils down to what sounds better to your ears, because at the end of the day your ears don't give a crap about what some FR graph might be saying or what the specs would indicate. I think thats part of the reason why the budget segment has taken off so strongly and why some members would prefer getting several budget iems rather than one very expensive one, because it would cost the same either way, but with budget iems you really get to explore and and see what you really like.
 
In my eyes the Soundsoul has one great weakness, and that is its cable. Strain relief at the housing is weak sauce and the cable is INFURIATING to deal with as it has VERY strong memory  it seems. Urgh. But the sound quality makes it worth dealing with 
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It has become my daily beater now, I can just stuff it in my pocket and its sturdy enough to go anywhere with me, unlike the VSD3 or HAVI, both of which I tend to be a LOT more careful with. 

I don't object anything here, but would like to add that when some specific earphone generates hype and most of the users love it then it's really something.
 
I've seen here some hype trains running amok. I've also been victim in some cases. But I see things going in a different way for S-018. While usually I see somewhat balanced ratio of lovers and haters, this time it's mostly the lovers. I'm yet to see anyone who is dissatisfied of the SQ. Btw all this is just to signify that, this earphone may well be the true giant killer (already called by many) in terms of SQ, and that all this talk going on 'How some random earphone gets hyped because of someone's personal taste' is not really true.
 
If something is good, it's good. Simple as that.
 
Oh and BQ sure is an issue with low cost earphones. Similar with my Tenores. We just need to babysit these, or recable it.
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 2:28 PM Post #14,143 of 35,472
As I also posted on the Discovery thread...

So I've spent the last 24 hours listening to my Fidue A71 through my Sony A15, and I've fallen in love with these amazingly tuned dual dynamics, and though I was on the verge of selling them, I have now reconsidered, and I'll be holding on to these kick ass IEMs. The bass is just too delicious, and the fun yet detailed nature is just something I can't let go of.

 
Cool - I'm glad that you came to your senses! 
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Seriously though, it's great that you are re-appreciating them. The A71's are awesome, and very nice to have around as complimentary iems to keep the diversity going. I miss mine because @nick n is taking his sweet ass time getting the cable on them fixed. Slacker. Just kidding nick! I know you're enjoying them for a while like I ordered you too lol.
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 2:36 PM Post #14,144 of 35,472
  I don't object anything here, but would like to add that when some specific earphone generates hype and most of the users love it then it's really something.
 
I've seen here some hype trains running amok. I've also been victim in some cases. But I see things going in a different way for S-018. While usually I see somewhat balanced ratio of lovers and haters, this time it's mostly the lovers. I'm yet to see anyone who is dissatisfied of the SQ. Btw all this is just to signify that, this earphone may well be the true giant killer (already called by many) in terms of SQ, and that all this talk going on 'How some random earphone gets hyped because of someone's personal taste' is not really true.
 
If something is good, it's good. Simple as that.
 
Oh and BQ sure is an issue with low cost earphones. Similar with my Tenores. We just need to babysit these, or recable it.


yes, there seems to be a large contingent of satisfied users, so that may be indicative of its performance.
With regards to bq, the S-018 looks like it can take a beating, but am just careful when handling the wire around the reliefs. I am not too worried with it because if anything happens to it I am buying another set...or two :D
 
When is yours due to arrive? I wasn't a fan of the stock tips and am using non spiral dots wide bore JVC tips from my xtreme xplosive iems. I just watched a movie and man that bass, I love the way it growls and rumbles, I was able to hear each individual segment of the rumble. The sound invokes images of textured chocolate, so yummy :)  Again, speaking from a personal point of view I think the sound signature of the S-018 is something that resonates with me. (pun intended :p)
 
In comparison to my VSD3:
 
The treble has just the right amount of energy without being overbearing and I can turn up the volume as loud as I want without it feeling harsh. The midrange feels like its more distant (not recessed) and feels like there is more space around the instruments and its inside a chamber rather than inside my head. The word I would use to describe it "natural". It just feel right. The bass is where it really shines. The bass maybe a tad strong for some, specially coming from bass light iems like the havis, but once your brain gets used to the sound signature, it just clicks. I actually understand what bass texture means and the bass has a bit less bloom and quantity than the VSD3 with upgrade cable but the S-018 bass is tighter, more detailed and oh so yummy. I am looking forward to what Sound Soul comes up with next, because if this is what they can do at 8 dollars, I can't wait to see what they do in the 40-60 dollar range or even 100 dollar range. I hope they are able to compete with eh JVC woodies one day 
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PS in terms of sound layering, VSD3 wins no contest, thought I would add that in there
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 3:24 PM Post #14,145 of 35,472
They are definitely better than their current price would dictate, as to whether if they are better than the aforementioned IEMs I can't comment as I haven't heard them yet, but I can say that they are surprisingly close to my VSD3, which I got back yesterday. The sound soul isn't technically bette than my VSD3, but more often that not I find myself reaching for the S-018, I find it to be a bit more airy and clearer for most songs. Again YMMV. 

Its all boils down to what sounds better to your ears, because at the end of the day your ears don't give a crap about what some FR graph might be saying or what the specs would indicate. I think thats part of the reason why the budget segment has taken off so strongly and why some members would prefer getting several budget iems rather than one very expensive one, because it would cost the same either way, but with budget iems you really get to explore and and see what you really like.

In my eyes the Soundsoul has one great weakness, and that is its cable. Strain relief at the housing is weak sauce and the cable is INFURIATING to deal with as it has VERY strong memory  it seems. Urgh. But the sound quality makes it worth dealing with :beerchug:
It has become my daily beater now, I can just stuff it in my pocket and its sturdy enough to go anywhere with me, unlike the VSD3 or HAVI, both of which I tend to be a LOT more careful with. 


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