JWahl
1000+ Head-Fier
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Seconded, I owned the K702 65th and while the K702 65th is excellent in it's price bracket, the HD800 is really in another league. I'd suggest looking for used though unless you just want new, and if your willing to pay new retail, you could just go through colorware to customize for you and avoid the cheap paint chipping.
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1. Can be tamed with EQ if your not opposed to it, as well as easy damping mods. (I'm not a fan of tweaking FR by gear choice, or at least can't afford that route) I try to choose gear by non FR characteristics like detail, soundstage, transparency, etc.
2. I think the HD800 imaging is more sensitive to changes in source and will more accurately reflect the upstream equipment. Even just adding my Concero as a converter to my Nuwave vs stock noticeably improves the imaging.
3. I'm fairly certain the HD800 probably has the lowest distortion bass among dynamic phones. If anything this is actually the fatal flaw of the x70x series given their low power handling and moderately low efficiency (dynamic bass peaks require exponentially more current)
4. To each his own I suppose
5. Can't argue this, the paint is certainly cheap given the price.
6. I'll have to research this, though possible, if your referring to individual components, hopefully the drivers are at least assembled in Germany.
7. True statement, although as much as I hate to admit, it's "worth the money" relative to similarly priced competition.
All that being said, I still highly recommend the K702-65th but you may have the "what could have been" bug bite you like me
Get HD800... Cannot imagine more versatile headphones - extreme comfort, neutrality, soundstage, imaging, instrument separation... What is there not to like?
I told exactly this to Lugbug1... He bought them... And immediately understood ,-) (and sold LCD-2 as well as I did)
(yes, the bass of HD800 bests the bass of LCD-2 IMHO)
Seconded, I owned the K702 65th and while the K702 65th is excellent in it's price bracket, the HD800 is really in another league. I'd suggest looking for used though unless you just want new, and if your willing to pay new retail, you could just go through colorware to customize for you and avoid the cheap paint chipping.
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Well, there is a lot not to like,
1. The the peak in the treble.
2. Fix imaging that already have mentioned here.
3. I need to check them more... but I suspect there is a sub bass distortion problems under 20hz.
4. I prefer the 702s sound stage and the instrument separation.
5. The cheap silver color wear off.
6. Made in china, glued in Germany.
7. Overpriced!
1. Can be tamed with EQ if your not opposed to it, as well as easy damping mods. (I'm not a fan of tweaking FR by gear choice, or at least can't afford that route) I try to choose gear by non FR characteristics like detail, soundstage, transparency, etc.
2. I think the HD800 imaging is more sensitive to changes in source and will more accurately reflect the upstream equipment. Even just adding my Concero as a converter to my Nuwave vs stock noticeably improves the imaging.
3. I'm fairly certain the HD800 probably has the lowest distortion bass among dynamic phones. If anything this is actually the fatal flaw of the x70x series given their low power handling and moderately low efficiency (dynamic bass peaks require exponentially more current)
4. To each his own I suppose
5. Can't argue this, the paint is certainly cheap given the price.
6. I'll have to research this, though possible, if your referring to individual components, hopefully the drivers are at least assembled in Germany.
7. True statement, although as much as I hate to admit, it's "worth the money" relative to similarly priced competition.
All that being said, I still highly recommend the K702-65th but you may have the "what could have been" bug bite you like me