Quote: Originally Posted by cheechoz I don't mind the way they look, but I hope there is a substantial gain in sound, over the E5c's. What I do not want, is an overly pronounced bass response! i think you will be pleasantly suprised by the sound. the bass is beautiful, but...

first off, the shures will sound even muddier to you if you've grown accostumed to the etymotics.... that said, i own both the e5's and the er-4p's and love both of them for different music/moods. the clarity of the etys, the viseral bass of the shures.... sigh. pure heaven. to answer your...

i have the smallest ears known to mankind (okay, slight exageration) and held off getting the e5's for months, all the while lusting after the sound. i finally caved in and got a pair and have not regretted it. it took a bit to get used to, but i find i can twist it in such a way that the...

Quote: Originally Posted by perdomot After reading some reviews about these earphones, I bought a pair today but they seem a little light in the bass department. Is this normal. Not a mega bass kind of guy but I do want to hear the thumps that I know are there. I'm also wondering about...

that's truly the only way to know. that, and getting used to canalphones in general which some people on this forum seem to have trouble with.... there is a learning curve involved here, not just sticking them in and playing your music. your ears need to be trained. i own both the er-4p/s and...

...i've listened quite a bit to the e4's straight out of an ipod (no eq) and experienced only minor sibilance (but that is a slight problem with *all* the canal phones). one of your problems sounds like you may be listening to it too loud. with your old sony's it's easy to crank it up (owned...

...to change his mind if that's what he wants.... i've tried for years to initiate my parents (whole family actually) and failed. then again, it is *my* family and not yours so good luck! for what it's worth, i second the mdr-7506 within your criteria.... additionally, they're quite...

...-- they're seriously a blur!!! after doing this twice, i learned the best thing to do is to go at the beginning of a stage (you get to actually *see* the riders, then perhaps somewhere in the middle for all the freebies the caravan throws out. while a sprint finish is exciting, the best would...

Quote: Originally Posted by DLeeWebb I was hoping that we could discuss Lance's "story" with emphasis on his retirement. Would it be possible to focus the conversation on those issues...? sorry. mea culpa. what do you think of the idea as lance as a commentator? would that be...

Quote: Originally Posted by james__bean Not trying to be confrontational here, but to advertise any canalphone as having an airy soundstage is misleading unless of course you're only comparing them to other canalphones. stand corrected. yes, indeed, i was comparing them to other...

Quote: Originally Posted by pnrgi The only thing thats important is that he is the best cyclist to have ever lived. And that he has set a mark that probably wont be beat in my life time. Saddly... you don't care about lance's back story, fine.... but while he's an amazing rider...

superb bass, lot's of air, and soundstage to boot. you can almost feel the sub....

Quote: Originally Posted by Sugarfried Michael's family was here today to see his work space and to pick up his personal belongings. How sad. have been on holiday for ten days and just saw this.... all so sad.... and the finality of that act must've been wrenching beyond belief...

Quote: Originally Posted by fyrfytrhoges can anyone say commentator for next years tour sitting next to Bob Roll??? i was on the champs for the finish and talking with a bunch of people and they thought i was fairly daft to think of him as a commentator (espcially so soon), but i...

...tugging the ear up, jaw down, etc., to get the perfect seal with the triflange.... if it's a quickie, i tend to use the shure yellow foamies, roll and go.... just remember that you don't have to get all three flanges *completely* in your ear to get great sound. feel your way, and you'll be fine.

Quote: Originally Posted by warpdriver Stuck at work...hate it when that happens heh heh.... anticipation....

Quote: Originally Posted by warpdriver I have some E3C foams lying around, are those the ones? yeap, the yellow ones. shiney side as stated. it's way more comfy than the tri-flange and not quite as obtrusive as the ety foamies. even if your ears are big (mine are teeny), the sound...

after doing all the research, i bought the er4p with the s adaptor and have never looked back nor regretted my decision in doing so.... the ipod really needs the 4p if you go unamped (especially in with outside noise). however, for the pure bliss of sound, i'll plug in s adaptor. it looks no...

Quote: Originally Posted by HyperM3 Thanks for everyones responses. Why would they have done anything different with the Black versions in terms of sound quality? Is this common for manufacturers? I really want the black ones because im Anti-Ipod/white and feel Id be going against how I...

okay, so i'm impatient, but i know somebody out there has a reccomendation.... i've seen posts for senn 580/595/600 as well.... help! thank you

hyperm3 -- if you can control yourself, i'd wait. the dark e4's truly are way cooler looking. and who knows? maybe they've even tweeked the sound for pros. the brain -- i did find the e2's more fun, but that's because they weren't my only phones. i have the ety er-4p/s for all the clarity i...

Quote: Originally Posted by thebrain Is the bass of the e4's with the Ipod better than that of the e2's with the Ipod? I am considering buying these but I want to be as sure as I can that they are worth the upgrade (yes, I know there are return policies). thanks i actually think...

...matter. He was looking at the AKG 141 and someone else recommended the 240S. I don't mind spending more for something else if it sounds better. *I* am the audiophile and am trying to upgrade his ears (if possible).... But I've got no idea as far as this set up is concerned. thank you!!!

...owned a pair of UE-7's, I think (not the 10's but he was talking about them as well).... Bottom line is he planned on keeping all of them so he'd *always* hear what the band was hearing which made a lot of sense to me. Just as I think band members should all agree on the same sound signature...

Also, the Etys have an immediate WOW factor when you put them on. The absolutely stun you with the clarity. Some people grow addicted (like moi) and for some people the details eventually become wearisome.... The E5's on the other hand are more like "normal" headphones so people aren't quite as...