ER4P have very good bass with a good player (Creative Zen Touch,Sony VAIO Pocket, Sony HD3,etc...) I don't understand any complaints about a lack of bass except for Ipod's users because Ipod has no bass...

Quote: Originally Posted by Rhydon For me, it would have to be the shure E3C's. I dont ever want to hear something so medicore again in my life. +1 : for me, Shure E3 are totally overprized and disappointing headphones...but some people like this s...t (usually,they don't like Ety...

Quote: Originally Posted by stopwhispering The detail and "brightness" of the highs are pretty important to my decision, so new question: Will the EQ settings on my Karma be able to make up for the lack of bass that the er-6/er-6i's apparently have? if great details and...

Vaio Pocket is the best player I had in my life (after so many including Zen, HD1,HD3,IHP120...) really a masterpiece...and a great synergy with ER4P/S

Ety ER6i aren't perfect but E3C are incredibly overated and overprized headphones... I suggest Ety ER4P,more expensive but much better than other two...

Quote: Originally Posted by benjamind In that case the ER6i would beat the E2c when it comes to treble. If you're a treble freak then the ER4P is probably the best phone you could get, short of the Westone UM2, which is even better still. However, when it comes to a warm and...

Quote: Originally Posted by yyoo I love a woman, and she loves me...and her iPod. In that order, I hope. My SO is a PC user. The iPod is her first Apple product. At any rate, I can understand how you may not "love" any products, if you've never owned something of exceptional...

Return your HD650 et take something like Beyer DT 880...

Quote: Originally Posted by yyoo Who cares? I love their products. Whatever motivates Apple, as long as they keep producing some of the best designed and friendliest software and hardware in the world, I will buy their products. A man love a woman... not a company or product...

Quote: Originally Posted by jacquer I'm looking for canal phones for my zen touch. I listen mainly to rock and industrial music (NIN, Tool, Alice in Chains, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Pearl Jam, etc.;d). I can spend only about 120 euros. What would you recommend me? maybe er-6i or e3c...

Quote: Originally Posted by Mr Iriver That is part of why I dislike the ety sound. It is artificial as described, and horribly thin. no... Ety ER4-P are not "horribly thin"... you can dislike ety's sound signature without write excessive opinions... I dislike Shure e3C's sound...

Quote: Originally Posted by kyrie I dislike the Etys for their artificial sound that sounds as if it's been passed through a "sharpen" filter. They also lack midrange and bass detail, not to say mass. I use Ety ER4-P on a Creative Zen Touch : no artificial sound, good bass and...

Quote: Originally Posted by yyoo I am an Apple FAN and a Windows software developer. Interestingly, many of the Windows software developers I know are Mac users. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if there were a MUCH higher proportion of Mac users among Windows developers than among the...

Quote: Originally Posted by yyoo Not at all. As I mentioned, Apple's competitors will HAVE to cut prices, so their profit margins will be squeezed. This will help usher out the weaker competition, and even the big guys will feel the pinch at their bottom lines. Three years from now...

A new bad product for kids,women and newbies : Apple's speciality... This **** will sell better than Muvo V200 or Iriver 795 with great marketing : pathetic...