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how would you compare the bass on the e11 to that of the e17?
Ordered the Ultrasone Pro 900!... crazy. crazy. excited.
Now what amp? If i even need one, im hearing very conflicting reports about the difference between unamped and amped Ultrasone Pro 900's...
ebay cmoy. I have an ultimate cmoy and really enjoyed the results. Think they're a better fit than Fiio if you are on a budget.
FiiO E11 is a decent cheap amp with a few pretty bad flaws:
1) It cannot be used while it's charging - connected via USB
2) Grabs RF noise like it's paid for it
3) Relatively low power, so I wouldn't use it with e.g. Sennheiser HD 650, Hifiman HE-400 or Beyerdynamic DT 880-250
4) Relatively short battery life: ~10h
5) Bad clipping behavior with low impedance low sensitivity headphones
6) Gets unstable with capacitive load and generates subsonic distortion from high frequencies. This is barely audible in most music, sounds like extra grain. Mostly audible with balanced armature IEMs.
E17 is a better pick:
1) Far stronger, can drive most of the above (except the Hifimans)
2) It's insensitive to RF
3) Can be used while charging both as a DAC and as a standalone amp
4) Has an even shorter battery life: ~8h
Cmoys are rather ill suited for low impedance cans - they tend to have relatively high output impedance and low current.
Some CMoys don't have high output impedance - those that use inherently stable opamps such as NJM5532 or JRC4556.
(The latter is coincidentally the strongest opamp known to me with regards to current handling, so a great pick for the CMoy. Other opamps have to be put multiple times in parallel.)
I've been told that a Dt 880 250 can be driven by an E11, although would a cMoy Drive an e11 and if so which one would be the best to get...
Also how do you utilize only the Amp in the E17
Not sure what Astral is blabbering about. The E17 runs off about 15 hours on battery, the CMoy portable amp (I'm assuming the altoid one) I believe has a low output impedance, E11 has more power than the E17 as an amp, etc.
Not sure why you would only utilize the amp portion of the E17. Then you're just better off getting a E11 or Cmoy, although like someone said, it can be charged thru USB. In that case, might as well invest in a O2 amp. If portability is important, there are other options.
"Driven" is a term that's just thrown out there carelessly. Virtually any amp can drive even a 600 ohm headphones to ear-splitting volumes. If it's a question of sound quality - whether you're inputting enough voltage/ current - then that's debatable for a variety of reasons which I do not even want to get into.
I've been told that a Dt 880 250 can be driven by an E11, although would a cMoy Drive an e11 and if so which one would be the best to get...
Also how do you utilize only the Amp in the E17
In E17 you just can connect the input to AUX in and select AUX mode with the button. That gives you a standard headphone amplifier.
About other amps that aren't actually CMoy, JDSLabs "cMoyBB" is a good amp with similar circuit layout to FiiO E11, but more powerful and better implemented. (much less RF for example)
Pricewise it's pretty similar to E11. Do pick the stronger rail splitter (2x TLE2426) option if still possible.
Gain 2.5x is usually enough unless you use very high impedance cans - then pick the higher gain option.
It's main drawback is that it's full size - that 9V battery has to fit somewhere.
I also wonder what they do with all the mints...
Lol they probably just request the production of the outer cover from the manufacturers... the mints would be a bother to take out.
The E11 has a big advantage over the E17 in terms of price, and can be charged. The CMoy BB is a nice amp - looks good too - but the battery is a pain to replace.
I'm going with cMoy 2x 9v Rechargeable, it seems good thankfully I have a friend who was an electronics major so he can help me with any battery replacements... the biggest Issue I have though is rechargeables die over time, most likey due to overchargeing... so I'll have to keep a close eye on my charges... but I'm going the with cMoy 2x, why because more power makes it sound better <3 got that right out of the cMoy pdf manual xD, plus it's different