Sovkiller
Proved that despite its huge size the CD3000 can be shoved down one's throat.
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Dex the cables that Ultrasone uses were developed by Oehlbach a cable company, specially for them, and for the headphones, they developed a few types, I know as I have two different ones, in my two headphones, different jacket materials mainly.
But as James pointed out before, the majority of the aftermarket cables I know of, were developed to solve problems, and shortcomings in the design of some particular models, and later on extended to others in which case I consider them just a fashion upgrade IMO, and an expensive fashion of course...
If you know Florian, you should know, that Florian is a scientist, and an honest designer, and he will not ******** anybody here, of course the design of any model take into consideration costs, and he is for sure aware also of those, and what corner was cut to minimize them, he knows for sure, the kind of need that the headphone could demand from any upgrade, and what can be and what can not be upgraded, via tweaks...if he wants or not to reveal those secrets that is his prerogative, but to avoid even asking is not the way to go and IMO just to begin to change for a change even less...
Also IMO, I do not see what can be improved in the sound of the Edition 9 that a cable can give you, sorry, in the PROLines yes I agree, but the Editions is not the same case....Comfort maybe, but that has nothing to do with the cable...
I had my CD3K stock my whole life, and the reason was very simple, any upgrade I knew off, was IMO a waste of time and money to my ears...what I was actually looking for from them, was never fixed by any of those, so why bother to spend on that....
Using this logic you stated above, is one of the reasons of why we have everyday more and more, a lot of people around tweaking things, and making changes that they do not have a clue on what the sonic impact will be, and even selling those tweaks/upgrades to others, without bothering in even provide the minimal scientific evidence of why any of those changes will improve this or that in a given sound...The empirical knowledge is good, but has limits IMO, don't you think? Specially while there is other people's money involved...At least for sure I will not be the first in jumping this wagon!!!!!
Originally Posted by Dexdexter /img/forum/go_quote.gif I dunno, Alberto, following this logic, perhaps we should all be e-mailing Florian about our sources, amplification, and choice of music. Obviously, from his standpoint as a designer, Florian must feel that he has released the best possible product that he can, taking into consideration all the economic factors involved and what Ultrasone determines that the market will support. So I don't imagine Florian would feel much inclined to collaborate on cables (especially when he can sell them himself) at the expense of focusing on refinements and designs for the next wave of models. In any case, aftermarket cables are by now fairly well-established accessories and, like anything else, they will either thrive or fail on their own merits. Caveat Emptor! And who knows? Perhaps a wave of interest in, and cash flowing toward aftermarket cables may inspire additional refinements in that direction by Ultrasone themselves. Or not. |
Dex the cables that Ultrasone uses were developed by Oehlbach a cable company, specially for them, and for the headphones, they developed a few types, I know as I have two different ones, in my two headphones, different jacket materials mainly.
But as James pointed out before, the majority of the aftermarket cables I know of, were developed to solve problems, and shortcomings in the design of some particular models, and later on extended to others in which case I consider them just a fashion upgrade IMO, and an expensive fashion of course...
If you know Florian, you should know, that Florian is a scientist, and an honest designer, and he will not ******** anybody here, of course the design of any model take into consideration costs, and he is for sure aware also of those, and what corner was cut to minimize them, he knows for sure, the kind of need that the headphone could demand from any upgrade, and what can be and what can not be upgraded, via tweaks...if he wants or not to reveal those secrets that is his prerogative, but to avoid even asking is not the way to go and IMO just to begin to change for a change even less...
Also IMO, I do not see what can be improved in the sound of the Edition 9 that a cable can give you, sorry, in the PROLines yes I agree, but the Editions is not the same case....Comfort maybe, but that has nothing to do with the cable...
I had my CD3K stock my whole life, and the reason was very simple, any upgrade I knew off, was IMO a waste of time and money to my ears...what I was actually looking for from them, was never fixed by any of those, so why bother to spend on that....
Using this logic you stated above, is one of the reasons of why we have everyday more and more, a lot of people around tweaking things, and making changes that they do not have a clue on what the sonic impact will be, and even selling those tweaks/upgrades to others, without bothering in even provide the minimal scientific evidence of why any of those changes will improve this or that in a given sound...The empirical knowledge is good, but has limits IMO, don't you think? Specially while there is other people's money involved...At least for sure I will not be the first in jumping this wagon!!!!!