Didn't know VST = piezoelectric tweeter. It's also in Hyla CE-5 and I quite like the crisp fast treble it produces. It could be a little hard at times.. maybe intime has developed it further to make it musical.
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Didn't know VST = piezoelectric tweeter. It's also in Hyla CE-5 and I quite like the crisp fast treble it produces. It could be a little hard at times.. maybe intime has developed it further to make it musical.
I heard the Hyla Sarda in Singapore and must confess that I was quite impressed. It does have that hard, quick quality to treble attack, but it didn’t sound overly metallic or splashy like I’ve associated with some other IEMs that use the piezo tweeters. It’s just such a crisp sounding IEM from the upper-midrange up. Not the most natural listen, mind you, but it definitely stands out in a good way to me.
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Thanks, @riverground, the timing’s perfect for me to post about headphone rankings because I’m in the early stages of a summer-long experiment.
While I have as my stable of headphones the Vérité, HD 600, and LCD-2 Classic, I’m looking to complete my collection in the next few months. I also have the HD 800 SDR.
So, to the experiment: I am fortunate to have a rare opportunity, through loaners or second-hand purchases, to try out several high-end headphones at home simultaneously: the LCD-4, LCD-R, SR1a, and the Atrium. Sadly, I can’t afford to keep more than one of them (if I were to keep 2, I’d have to sell off other gear from my stable). The plan is to land on a collection of up to 5 headphones to make my collection complete for the foreseeable future.
For my audio preferences and for some disclaimers, please see below. In the following list, asterisks are for those headphones I have owned or currently own:
1. ZMF Vérité *
These are my absolute favorite headphones, serving as ideal all-rounders. They may not be the very best at doing any one thing. But they’re great for almost all genres, and while inferior to the HD 800 SDR for classical, they still serve that genre very well. They have gorgeous timbre, are nice and punchy and dynamic, they’re pretty fast, very highly resolving – not too far behind the Utopia – and they’re simultaneously a lot of fun without being fatiguing. They straddle the line ideally between being exciting and emotionally engaging. These are my forever headphones. No, seriously: they’re the only high-end headphones I’ll buy new, and I got the perfect pair of limited African Blackwood headphones to last me a lifetime.
2. SR1a (*)?
I was blown away by these “earspeakers” on the few occasions I’ve heard them. They’re so radically different – and exhilarating, in terms of speed, resolution, and speaker-like soundstage – that I’ve not yet had enough time with them to assimilate their sound properly. I’ve got a pair incoming as I type this, so I may have to update this ranking in a few weeks’ time. I fear they may just be too relentless for me, like driving a Ferrari flat out, all the time. I’m interested in seeing how they render the timbre of instruments – that’ll be the key test, I suspect.
3. LCD-R *
I’ve not had these headphones for long and am still in the honeymoon period with them. They’re not in the same league as the Vérité, LCD-4, Utopia, or other totl headphones when it comes to technicalities. But they do several things really well: they’re almost perfectly tuned, for my tastes; they are fast; they are very highly resolving; the offer a wider, more spacious soundstage than other Audezes, and they’re wonderfully smooth and coherent. They’re a bit bass-shy – I use the bass shelf on the Jot A amp – but the treble is beautiful. There’s lots of sparkle to acoustic guitars, for instance, and there’s something beguiling about the overall sweet sound of these headphones. They’re among the few headphones I’ve heard that get out of the way and let me get lost in my music. I have to say I’m reluctant to analyze them too closely for fear of spoiling what is a lovely experience. If any annoying qualities exist, I'm sure they’ll become apparent over time, so I’m not sweating it and am just going with the flow.
4. LCD-4 (with EQ) *
I love the dark tone of these headphones as well as their outstanding bass and wonderful technicalities. They are so incredibly resolving, and their smooth, coherent and lush mids are glorious, perhaps the best I’ve heard. The treble is less than ideally coherent, though, sounding a bit disjointed (as Tyll noted back in the day on Innerfidelity).
5. HD 800 SDR *
These were my first high-end headphones, and I love them for their resolving qualities – among the very best I’ve heard, only bested, perhaps, by the SR1a and Utopia, in my experience – as well as their vast soundstage and excellent imaging. The two main limitations, for me, are their timbre, at times (they can be a bit too thin), and the treble spike. If the SR1a don’t work out for me, these will go back to having a permanent place in my stable of headphones, used primarily for classical music but also for those moments when a more spacious soundstage is called for.
6. HE1000 v2 (I’ve not heard the other iterations)
I loved these for their speed, resolution, and soundstage but because of their soft attacks and a slight tizziness, I shan’t be adding them to my collection. I also refuse to buy high-end HiFiMAN headphones because of their notoriously poor durability and quality control.
7. Stax SR007 and SR009
I’m lumping these two different headphones together because, while I love them for their ethereal sound and for the same qualities that I liked about the HE1000, their lack of macrodynamic strength and bass slam rules them out for me. They’re just too soft.
8. Utopia
These have great bass, wonderfully strong macrodynamics, incredible technicalities, and nice timbre, and they’re great fun to listen to. Their brightness puts me off, although I need to revisit them now that I have a DNA Stratus amp. Still, I’m hesitant to get a pair because of their narrow stage and because $3K is a kind of price threshold I’m not prepared to cross for headphones (new or used). I don’t trust the QC of the drivers enough to risk buying them used, especially given the high cost of replacements out of warranty.
9. RAD-0
These would rank higher, and perhaps right behind the LCD-4, were it not for them being too warm for me. They nail timbre. They’re incredibly resolving. They’re among the most engaging and musical headphones I’ve heard. @Rockwell75, these are the headphones I’d be most likely to recommend for you, given your preferences. I like that they’re supposedly fairly easy to drive - you might even get away with driving them from a DAP or transportable device, which might make them suitably versatile.
Rosson Audio also makes bright and dark versions of these headphones, and I’d very much like to audition them as they might be ideal. Alas, it’s all but impossible to check them out.
10. Focal Clear *
For the price, especially now (below a grand USD), these are almost impossible to beat (I’ve not heard the LCD-X 2021). They’re super fast, highly resolving, impactful, with great macrodynamic strength, and while they have a lovely bass presentation, their overall tuning is nicely balanced. I found the treble a bit hard, almost crystalline out of some amps. But the dealbreaker for me, ultimately, was their narrow stage.
11. HD 600 *
I love these for their timbre, affordability, and ability to scale. I love them out of my Bifrost 2 -> SW51+ (SET amp) setup. This setup is hard to beat for $1500 USD. Out of the right amp, they can sing beautifully, and they can be remarkably energetic, full of great macrodynamic strength and bass slam. They can also be wonderfully resolving. Their tuning reminds me of the Isabellae insofar as they have a lovely, coherent and engaging sound. And I love the fact that they’re such solid workhorses and that all of their parts are readily available and user replaceable (and inexpensive).
12. LCD-2 Classic *
These are a specialist headphone for me. Even though they’re far behind other headphones when it comes technicalities and tuning, they scratch a particular itch: I’m a huge fan of 90s alt/indie rock, much of which was poorly recorded. These headphones are wonderful for this kind of music because they’re not in the least bit fatiguing, they’re great for electric guitars, and they don’t highlight or exacerbate problems with the recordings. I love the LCD-2 Classic out of my Schiit Mjolnir 1 amp, which makes it incredibly punchy and dynamic and exciting.
While I have as my stable of headphones the Vérité, HD 600, and LCD-2 Classic, I’m looking to complete my collection in the next few months. I also have the HD 800 SDR.
So, to the experiment: I am fortunate to have a rare opportunity, through loaners or second-hand purchases, to try out several high-end headphones at home simultaneously: the LCD-4, LCD-R, SR1a, and the Atrium. Sadly, I can’t afford to keep more than one of them (if I were to keep 2, I’d have to sell off other gear from my stable). The plan is to land on a collection of up to 5 headphones to make my collection complete for the foreseeable future.
For my audio preferences and for some disclaimers, please see below. In the following list, asterisks are for those headphones I have owned or currently own:
1. ZMF Vérité *
These are my absolute favorite headphones, serving as ideal all-rounders. They may not be the very best at doing any one thing. But they’re great for almost all genres, and while inferior to the HD 800 SDR for classical, they still serve that genre very well. They have gorgeous timbre, are nice and punchy and dynamic, they’re pretty fast, very highly resolving – not too far behind the Utopia – and they’re simultaneously a lot of fun without being fatiguing. They straddle the line ideally between being exciting and emotionally engaging. These are my forever headphones. No, seriously: they’re the only high-end headphones I’ll buy new, and I got the perfect pair of limited African Blackwood headphones to last me a lifetime.
2. SR1a (*)?
I was blown away by these “earspeakers” on the few occasions I’ve heard them. They’re so radically different – and exhilarating, in terms of speed, resolution, and speaker-like soundstage – that I’ve not yet had enough time with them to assimilate their sound properly. I’ve got a pair incoming as I type this, so I may have to update this ranking in a few weeks’ time. I fear they may just be too relentless for me, like driving a Ferrari flat out, all the time. I’m interested in seeing how they render the timbre of instruments – that’ll be the key test, I suspect.
3. LCD-R *
I’ve not had these headphones for long and am still in the honeymoon period with them. They’re not in the same league as the Vérité, LCD-4, Utopia, or other totl headphones when it comes to technicalities. But they do several things really well: they’re almost perfectly tuned, for my tastes; they are fast; they are very highly resolving; the offer a wider, more spacious soundstage than other Audezes, and they’re wonderfully smooth and coherent. They’re a bit bass-shy – I use the bass shelf on the Jot A amp – but the treble is beautiful. There’s lots of sparkle to acoustic guitars, for instance, and there’s something beguiling about the overall sweet sound of these headphones. They’re among the few headphones I’ve heard that get out of the way and let me get lost in my music. I have to say I’m reluctant to analyze them too closely for fear of spoiling what is a lovely experience. If any annoying qualities exist, I'm sure they’ll become apparent over time, so I’m not sweating it and am just going with the flow.
4. LCD-4 (with EQ) *
I love the dark tone of these headphones as well as their outstanding bass and wonderful technicalities. They are so incredibly resolving, and their smooth, coherent and lush mids are glorious, perhaps the best I’ve heard. The treble is less than ideally coherent, though, sounding a bit disjointed (as Tyll noted back in the day on Innerfidelity).
5. HD 800 SDR *
These were my first high-end headphones, and I love them for their resolving qualities – among the very best I’ve heard, only bested, perhaps, by the SR1a and Utopia, in my experience – as well as their vast soundstage and excellent imaging. The two main limitations, for me, are their timbre, at times (they can be a bit too thin), and the treble spike. If the SR1a don’t work out for me, these will go back to having a permanent place in my stable of headphones, used primarily for classical music but also for those moments when a more spacious soundstage is called for.
6. HE1000 v2 (I’ve not heard the other iterations)
I loved these for their speed, resolution, and soundstage but because of their soft attacks and a slight tizziness, I shan’t be adding them to my collection. I also refuse to buy high-end HiFiMAN headphones because of their notoriously poor durability and quality control.
7. Stax SR007 and SR009
I’m lumping these two different headphones together because, while I love them for their ethereal sound and for the same qualities that I liked about the HE1000, their lack of macrodynamic strength and bass slam rules them out for me. They’re just too soft.
8. Utopia
These have great bass, wonderfully strong macrodynamics, incredible technicalities, and nice timbre, and they’re great fun to listen to. Their brightness puts me off, although I need to revisit them now that I have a DNA Stratus amp. Still, I’m hesitant to get a pair because of their narrow stage and because $3K is a kind of price threshold I’m not prepared to cross for headphones (new or used). I don’t trust the QC of the drivers enough to risk buying them used, especially given the high cost of replacements out of warranty.
9. RAD-0
These would rank higher, and perhaps right behind the LCD-4, were it not for them being too warm for me. They nail timbre. They’re incredibly resolving. They’re among the most engaging and musical headphones I’ve heard. @Rockwell75, these are the headphones I’d be most likely to recommend for you, given your preferences. I like that they’re supposedly fairly easy to drive - you might even get away with driving them from a DAP or transportable device, which might make them suitably versatile.
Rosson Audio also makes bright and dark versions of these headphones, and I’d very much like to audition them as they might be ideal. Alas, it’s all but impossible to check them out.
10. Focal Clear *
For the price, especially now (below a grand USD), these are almost impossible to beat (I’ve not heard the LCD-X 2021). They’re super fast, highly resolving, impactful, with great macrodynamic strength, and while they have a lovely bass presentation, their overall tuning is nicely balanced. I found the treble a bit hard, almost crystalline out of some amps. But the dealbreaker for me, ultimately, was their narrow stage.
11. HD 600 *
I love these for their timbre, affordability, and ability to scale. I love them out of my Bifrost 2 -> SW51+ (SET amp) setup. This setup is hard to beat for $1500 USD. Out of the right amp, they can sing beautifully, and they can be remarkably energetic, full of great macrodynamic strength and bass slam. They can also be wonderfully resolving. Their tuning reminds me of the Isabellae insofar as they have a lovely, coherent and engaging sound. And I love the fact that they’re such solid workhorses and that all of their parts are readily available and user replaceable (and inexpensive).
12. LCD-2 Classic *
These are a specialist headphone for me. Even though they’re far behind other headphones when it comes technicalities and tuning, they scratch a particular itch: I’m a huge fan of 90s alt/indie rock, much of which was poorly recorded. These headphones are wonderful for this kind of music because they’re not in the least bit fatiguing, they’re great for electric guitars, and they don’t highlight or exacerbate problems with the recordings. I love the LCD-2 Classic out of my Schiit Mjolnir 1 amp, which makes it incredibly punchy and dynamic and exciting.
Preferences
The disclaimer, in case you were wondering about a few omissions:
- I’m not fond of overly warm headphones. I prefer the HD 600 over the HD 650.
- For this reason the Aeolus, Empyrean, and RAD-0 don’t appear higher on my list (or at all)
- I’m not fond of too much emphasis in the upper mids and lower treble, which makes headphones shouty, if not strident to my ears
- The LCD-5 were like this for me, in a brief audition (I want to revisit these headphones)
- I’m picky about treble smoothness and coherence. Were it not for the treble spike, my HD 800 SDR would rank higher
- Because of various treble issues the Auteur, Arya, and others don’t make the list.
The disclaimer, in case you were wondering about a few omissions:
- I’ve not heard at all the Atrium, Vérité Closed, LCD-X, HE-6, Meze Elite, D8000 Pro (or regular version), or the new SR-X9000, the Audio-Technica ATH-ADX5000, or any of the Kennerton headphones
- I’ve not heard in suitable conditions the Susvara, any of the Abyss 1266 or Diana headphones, the Stellia, Voce or Ether 2. I have a sneaking suspicion that, given my preferences, I’d like the Abyss 1266. Alas, they’re too pricey for me, unless I had them as a one and done headphone, but I like to have some variety.
- I didn’t get along at all with the HEDDPhone or Mysphere headphones, or the CRBN (it’s staging was too up-front for me, as though the singer were two feet in front of me and I could see his or her tonsils)
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A wire is your best piece of gear? I think you are romanticizing it.Just received a demo unit of the Eletech Aeneid courtesy of Eric, (nicest guy in the business BTW) and I should have the Project L demo cables later this week, stoked to be a part of this design process. Some serious ET listening coming up. While the Aeneid is brand new, and sounds great right out of the box, I won't fully judge it until I can do some break-in.
Just for fun, with my Jewel and A18t, I went back and forth between Aeneid and my First Times, and then to the mighty Orpheus. Aeneid is very organic, a tad warm and spacious with that signature ET golden sparkle presence up top. FT is really amazing, also organic and natural but less warm, more textured and very clear, wondrously even, but man... The Orpheus is from another planet. This breaks all the rules of what a cable should sound like, forget it's "just" copper.
It's stupid expensive but I would say it's the best piece of gear I own. I would sell 3 IEMs for this if I had to do it all over again, it's really that amazing. With Jewel it's.... Just wow.
Simple test. Pair Orpheus with Hiby R3 Pro and N8ii with Ares II. Tell me which sounds better.
tone.texture.soul
Previously known as Tokpakorlo
There's nothing wrong with being romantic bud. Keeps me young.
You can have whatever you want as a favorite. IEMs come and go, DAPs change all the time, for me this cable will outlast them all.
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There’s also the fact that there’s some bias when you spend so much for cable, or have something that is otherwise hard to obtain. Naturally we want to feel good about what we spend our personal money on.
tone.texture.soul
Previously known as Tokpakorlo
Personal worth attached to product is hardly a unique quality for just me. Value is a deeply personal experience. We all want what we buy to be "worth it". Everyone has a different ceiling for price, but we all want the same: enjoyment.
I've built some insanely expensive home Hi-fi systems and recording studios for people, and what I always remember is where they spent their big money. Cables. Most benefit on the system, and most possibilities for future use with newer gear. They spend $50k on speaker cables without breaking a sweat, because that's the cable that has "it".
So yes, the cable that makes all my gear sound tremendous is worth it, and is my favorite piece. Followed closely by my C9, as it too will (and has already) outlasted a few IEMs and DAPs.
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I'm after a quick, cheap hit and eyeing up the Final A4000 - equivalent of about $110 and I could have it by Wednesday! Reading some great reviews, anyone here tried them? I had the E5000 once upon a time but without a decent source to really drive them back then but regardless, I had quite a few magic moments.
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Even quicker and cheaper is the last line of IEM's in your sig...I'm after a quick, cheap hit and eyeing up the Final A4000 - equivalent of about $110 and I could have it by Wednesday! Reading some great reviews, anyone here tried them? I had the E5000 once upon a time but without a decent source to really drive them back then but regardless, I had quite a few magic moments.
toaster
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It's stupid expensive but I would say [orphy] is the best piece of gear I own...it's really that amazing. With Jewel it's.... Just wow.
Crazily enough, I'd agree.
It is surely ridiculous...but considering how unexpected its capabilities are, it's probably the most unique and satisfying piece of audio tech I own...in a sadistic kind of way.
Worthy of being romanticized, indeed.
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Even quicker and cheaper is the last line of IEM's in your sig...
This is indeed quite true!
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Taking some photos yesterday evening for the DUNU VULKAN review... I like how the clouds in the sky reflected off the glass table in this shot.
Oh and Final A4000 ordered...
Oh and Final A4000 ordered...
I got mail...
Only had time for a cursory demo during lunch. Preliminary thoughts at this time only but my perceptions so far align directly with @ceramicears' thoughts above. Not really a mid focused IEM but the mids are really nice-- not a hint of metallic timbre or any sort of unpleasantness at all. Male & female vocals sound really nice...resolution is wonderful as is the single driver coherence...bass is definitely a star of the show here. Treble is really smooth and effortless. They're decently sensitive and should sound nice on my SR25ii as well...which is a big plus. Cable was stock 4.4 which I love...cable is nice and supple...reminds me of the Atlas' stock cable. Probably my favorite stock CFA cable yet. Presently I'm very happy with them and looking forward to more listening.
Spent some 20 hours with the Supermoon so far. I was advised to give it 100 hours of burn-in but I'm not sure I believe in that. If it somehow manages to get better then yay for me. Only took two weeks to receive after sending my 3D scans. No issues with fit. The sound is overall relatively neutral with bass boost, leaning warm, with a sub-bass bias and a touch of added air on top. I can offer more in-depth thoughts and comparison to the Solaris. All listening done through a Mojo 2.
I must stress that the bass resolution and control is OUTSTANDING. It improves on the Solaris here, which comes across as thicker with a more bubbly DD personality and less definition. The Supermoon simply has better sub-bass extension and speed. While the DD in the Solaris may lend itself to more perceived punch and physicality, Solaris bass remains more linear and grounded. Solaris bass has a gravity to it that pulls you in, while Supermoon bass is spacious and dense. On the right tracks, the Supermoon will rumble your ears more while the Solaris will slam a tad harder.
Additionally, Supermoon actually performs well with percussion, an area in which I believe planars to not be so strong. Drum hits are surprisingly clean with defined impact, but they are still bouncier on the Solaris which may come across as more authentic. Bass guitar reaches deeep and doesn't come through with any bloom, while it sounds a little more organic albeit less extending on the Solaris. Coupled with the wide staging, Supermoon bass is an enveloping, deep, and textured treat. If you want bass in your face, this isn't it.
The midrange is not the focus here unlike the Solaris. Vocals lean on the airier and smoother side, while vocals on the Solaris are wetter, weightier, and more intimate. The intimacy of vocals on Solaris makes them seem large and gooey, while the Supermoon's staging gives vocals breathing room and more depth. Guitars sound richer on the Solaris, but the Supermoon has a cleaner tone here with better layering and separation. The Supermoon is cleaner and more levelheaded than the Solaris in general. This carries over to other instruments like piano and saxophone, which hold a less colorful and more detailed presentation.
The treble is blissfully smooth without seeming too laidback. I don't detect any peaks here despite the treble being filled in a bit more than the Solaris, which does have a more noticeable localized peak. The ethereal quality, or planar glaze, is carried from the midrange into the treble resulting in a pleasant and detailed silkiness across the range. There isn't a hint of grain here. Supermoon manages to smooth over some sharpness that I often hear in piano with other sets. And violins, oh man, violins are swift and rich and never strident. Solaris opts for more contrast with many instruments, which makes them sound less filled in at times but perhaps more colorfully amusing. Supermoon maintains a more even and smoother approach here.
Supermoon is wider and has a roomier stage than the Solaris. That was a recurring theme. It has a more mature tonality that is slightly more detailed than the Solaris but doesn't shy away from engagement. Solaris sacrifices some perception of detail for overt musicality and contrast. Solaris vocal performance still has me completely enamored and the Supermoon hasn't changed that, nor was it meant to. They serve a different purpose for a different mood. I'm really happy with the Supermoon and it will serve nicely when I want something pleasingly levelheaded with a killer bass that is north of neutral.
Only had time for a cursory demo during lunch. Preliminary thoughts at this time only but my perceptions so far align directly with @ceramicears' thoughts above. Not really a mid focused IEM but the mids are really nice-- not a hint of metallic timbre or any sort of unpleasantness at all. Male & female vocals sound really nice...resolution is wonderful as is the single driver coherence...bass is definitely a star of the show here. Treble is really smooth and effortless. They're decently sensitive and should sound nice on my SR25ii as well...which is a big plus. Cable was stock 4.4 which I love...cable is nice and supple...reminds me of the Atlas' stock cable. Probably my favorite stock CFA cable yet. Presently I'm very happy with them and looking forward to more listening.
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Congrats & enjoy ...I got mail...
Only had time for a cursory demo during lunch. Preliminary thoughts at this time only but my perceptions so far align directly with @ceramicears' thoughts above. Not really a mid focused IEM but the mids are really nice-- not a hint of metallic timbre or any sort of unpleasantness at all. Male & female vocals sound really nice...resolution is wonderful as is the single driver coherence...bass is definitely a star of the show here. Treble is really smooth and effortless. They're decently sensitive and should sound nice on my SR25ii as well...which is a big plus. Cable was stock 4.4 which I love...cable is nice and supple...reminds me of the Atlas' stock cable. Probably my favorite stock CFA cable yet. Presently I'm very happy with them and looking forward to more listening.
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Interesting color. Yeah, the sublime coherence is something I forgot to mention. The speed of the planar really adds to the seemless effect. The driver itself handles Mojo 2's lossless EQ like a champ. Sometimes I like to boost the bass shelf by 3 to 5 db to get a real thumpy bass and even more rumble. The bass scales really cleanly with no congestion and becomes seriously mesmerizing, and I can still hear the rest of the mix. I usually never use EQ.I got mail...
Only had time for a cursory demo during lunch. Preliminary thoughts at this time only but my perceptions so far align directly with @ceramicears' thoughts above. Not really a mid focused IEM but the mids are really nice-- not a hint of metallic timbre or any sort of unpleasantness at all. Male & female vocals sound really nice...resolution is wonderful as is the single driver coherence...bass is definitely a star of the show here. Treble is really smooth and effortless. They're decently sensitive and should sound nice on my SR25ii as well...which is a big plus. Cable was stock 4.4 which I love...cable is nice and supple...reminds me of the Atlas' stock cable. Probably my favorite stock CFA cable yet. Presently I'm very happy with them and looking forward to more listening.
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