[Jmop]

What's this? Seems that this potential gem flew under the radar so far...

As we know, all Myer Audio IEMs come from the same factory as the DUNU's (and you can see the resemblance quite easily), also the CKLVX D41 ( aka Pula 02) and the SLIIVO SL41 are well received everywhere, and that brings me to the:

Myer Audio KATACCO 1DD with 10MM Composite Diaphragm Drivers and a very very competitive price point of about 42 $.

Would be nice if we have the one or the other 1DD aficionado who ordered them already?
So far only available at the Myer Audio Aliexpress store I think.

There are probably better 1DD aficionados than me, however I am a bit of a graph head and this one is kinda meh.

 

[theintention]

Let's keep it light, y'all.
Anyone enjoying new music?
Good vibes being uploaded now...

My R4 cleared customs AFTER it said it was out for delivery so who even knows bro!

Happy Monday

 

[Ineras]

What's this? Seems that this potential gem flew under the radar so far...

As we know, all Myer Audio IEMs come from the same factory as the DUNU's (and you can see the resemblance quite easily), also the CKLVX D41 ( aka Pula 02) and the SLIIVO SL41 are well received everywhere, and that brings me to the:

Myer Audio KATACCO 1DD with 10MM Composite Diaphragm Drivers and a very very competitive price point of about 42 $.

Would be nice if we have the one or the other 1DD aficionado who ordered them already?
So far only available at the Myer Audio Aliexpress store I think.

I kinda remember one reviewer saying this is identical to Kiwi Ears Cadenza. I think it was Akros?

 

[activatorfly]

Intrresting graphs. I would suggest to look at nornalization first. If dB values are correct (and they should be) the non-normalized graph for the red nozle should be higher in magnitude/intensity. Software then likely normalizes all graphs by default to the same intensities at 1 kHz or lower.
As for the frequency shifts - oscillator dampening decreases its frequency, and it should be applicable to the standing sound waves in the coupler (enough of the older Phonophi, right?)

Scaremongering is not right.
Bringing potential concerns should be right (and potentially helpful).
Bringing concerns about concerns should be similarly instructive.
Scaremongering efforts to shut down any potential concerns are not right as well (and perhaps the most to be concerned with, given the tendencies of the current "cancel culture").

I hope we all (here and elsewhere in life) can find a good balance in polite and respectful discussions.


Aren't the BA drivers absolutely the same in Rhapsody and Hydro?
They are the same according to KZ description, just twice more drivers in Hydro. More drivers is better in several aspects: smoother, more details potentially without "artificial treble boosting", while less directly influencing tonality. The tonality here is largely determined by the DD-BA junction: frequencies and the relative intensities of the implemented crossover.

I read or watched a YT review that alluded to them being an upgrade - if I find it I'll post it later ok?

 

[Dsnuts]

Also while you’re here @Dsnuts do you think Shozy B2 is worth picking up at $150 in today’s competition?

That depends. The B2 is the closest I have ever heard a Chinese manufacturer do western tunings. B2 is like Bose tuning. Big mid bassy, warm L shaped sound very moderate upper mids to mid bass ratio. It has a big airy stage to the sound too which helps with all the bass it has. These types of tunings aren't too common nowadays and for some, these will be a welcomed change among the myriads of harmon tuned IEMs we have now.

Harmon tunings seems to be an industry standard now, which is both good and bad at the same time. I will give Shozy some props of going all out on the musical end of the tuning process. No warmth= not Shozy. The only catch on the B2 is that it does require some tinkering to get the sound right for you. What you might hear out of the box may not be anything that you read about them. Burn in, nozzles and cables all play a crucial role into getting them correct. They remind me a bit of the old Sony Z5 in that it is a very colored sound but one that is very enjoyable when you dial in that combo correct. Is it competitive with todays $150 level IEMs? Against more neutral and balanced technical tunings, if thats the type of tunings you like then no. But for folks that love them some big mid bass, warmth and body to your music. It stands out as one only a handfull of IEM options that is using a nicely resolving dynamic with dual magnets with this particular tuning.

Shozy B2 is the one IEM where it actually needs pure silver to counter a bit of that warmth. ISN SC4 shown with the B2.

JVC woodie IEMs comes to mind that are also colored in this way. You can actually say it is unique especially when you consider what is the norm nowadays.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

How’s the Polaris stacking up? Gonna try mine out tonight.

Trio more spacious and better with imaging and detail retrieval. Bass isn't too far off. I'd say they are fairly equal all things considered (3DD vs 1DD), but the Polaris are wayyyyyy more natural sounding, with more clear and extended highs. This remains the weakness of the Trio. The highs, though not terrible or strident, simply don't sound the most natural, and aren't as airy as they could be, especially compared to the airy and resolving top end of the Polaris. Everything else? Edge to the Trio.

 

[Jmop]

That depends. The B2 is the closest I have ever heard a Chinese manufacturer do western tunings. B2 is like Bose tuning. Big mid bassy, warm L shaped sound very moderate upper mids to mid bass ratio. It has a big airy stage to the sound too which helps with all the bass it has. These types of tunings aren't too common nowadays and for some, these will be a welcomed change among the myriads of harmon tuned IEMs we have now.

Harmon tunings seems to be an industry standard now, which is both good and bad at the same time. I will give Shozy some props of going all out on the musical end of the tuning process. No warmth= not Shozy. The only catch on the B2 is that it does require some tinkering to get the sound right for you. What you might hear out of the box may not be anything that you read about them. Burn in, nozzles and cables all play a crucial role into getting them correct. They remind me a bit of the old Sony Z5 in that it is a very colored sound but one that is very enjoyable when you dial in that combo correct. Is it competitive with todays $150 level IEMs? Against more neutral and balanced technical tunings, if thats the type of tunings you like then no. But for folks that love them some big mid bass, warmth and body to your music. It stands out as one only a handfull of IEM options that is using a nicely resolving dynamic with dual magnets with this particular tuning.


Shozy B2 is the one IEM where it actually needs pure silver to counter a bit of that warmth. ISN SC4 shown with the B2.

JVC woodie IEMs comes to mind that are also colored in this way. You can actually say it is unique especially when you consider what is the norm nowadays.

Gotcha, I appreciate the detailed response.

 

[Dsnuts]

I think it would have been insteresting to see Shozy make a more balanced B2 revision. Then I think it would become more mainstream but if you add the cost of what Shozy B2 plus a much needed cable upgarde. You can get the NiceHCK Himalaya for around similar price which is on a different level vs the B2 imo.

On one hand I admire Shozy for sticking with their "house sound" if your curious about Shozy. I would say give the Shozy T1 a try for a mere $29.90 as I find it strikingly similar to their Djembe which is a $99 IEM.

These are not close to the authority of the B2 but you wont have to shell out $150 to get an idea of their tuning angle.

 

[nikbr]

What a tune! Not for the electric-guitar-and-drums-allergic ones.

T5S does a good job tonally, while obviously not offering the last word in resolution, but that is largely down to the less than perfect Penon Tail dongle too - possibly my worst purchase ever, but still gets some use now and again since I don't currently own another tiny tiny dongle.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

was actually listening to the same album when I read this. But was using BQEYZ Wind.
Swapped over to the Trio.
Massive difference.
Trio drivers can't cope with the speed of some of these tracks. Bass seemed bloated, undefined and lacking impact compared to the Wind and guitars sounded unnatural.
I'm not a hater of the Trio, I think that they are well tuned (although perhaps with a tad to much 3khz gain for my preference) and have excellent sepration and imagining for the price.

Edit: FYI, album referirng to - Slash - Orgy of the Damned

I listened to this album three times with three different IEMs :

Aur Aures > EA500LM > CCA Trio

Still have to give it a spin with the ST7 + OD200

The bass of the Trio isn't as bad as you described it, but no, it's not as defined or resolving as the ST7 and EA500LM, and definitely trails way behind the Aures, which are resolved, elastic, and have the right amount of impact without any bloat.

 

[requal]

Trio more spacious and better with imaging and detail retrieval. Bass isn't too far off. I'd say they are fairly equal all things considered (3DD vs 1DD), but the Polaris are wayyyyyy more natural sounding, with more clear and extended highs. This remains the weakness of the Trio. The highs, though not terrible or strident, simply don't sound the most natural, and aren't as airy as they could be, especially compared to the airy and resolving top end of the Polaris. Everything else? Edge to the Trio.

If I can suggest something.. Polaris is quite tips dependent, wide bore gives them much more space and imaging abilities. I'm using mine with EPro Horn shaped tips.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

HungTuan got his KZ Vader (the CCA Trio side grade)





that a bit more controlled bass and thicker vocals is tempting
but buying direct side grade with slight upgrade is kinda...

More controlled bass (more defined). thicker vocal weight, and better treble extension??? That would pretty much take care of every check against the Trio! Or just do what I did and buy a Hydro?

 

[activatorfly]

Intrresting graphs. I would suggest to look at nornalization first. If dB values are correct (and they should be) the non-normalized graph for the red nozle should be higher in magnitude/intensity. Software then likely normalizes all graphs by default to the same intensities at 1 kHz or lower.
As for the frequency shifts - oscillator dampening decreases its frequency, and it should be applicable to the standing sound waves in the coupler (enough of the older Phonophi, right?)

Scaremongering is not right.
Bringing potential concerns should be right (and potentially helpful).
Bringing concerns about concerns should be similarly instructive.
Scaremongering efforts to shut down any potential concerns are not right as well (and perhaps the most to be concerned with, given the tendencies of the current "cancel culture").

I hope we all (here and elsewhere in life) can find a good balance in polite and respectful discussions.


Aren't the BA drivers absolutely the same in Rhapsody and Hydro?
They are the same according to KZ description, just twice more drivers in Hydro. More drivers is better in several aspects: smoother, more details potentially without "artificial treble boosting", while less directly influencing tonality. The tonality here is largely determined by the DD-BA junction: frequencies and the relative intensities of the implemented crossover.

I stand corrected Hydro does utilise a double array of the same multi BA 31736 that's used in the Rhapsody - I guess Hydro's crossover circuitry has been refined to maximise the resolution/signature of it's 10-driver config??

 

[Jmop]

I think it would have been insteresting to see Shozy make a more balanced B2 revision. Then I think it would become more mainstream but if you add the cost of what Shozy B2 plus a much needed cable upgarde. You can get the NiceHCK Himalaya for around similar price which is on a different level vs the B2 imo.

On one hand I admire Shozy for sticking with their "house sound" if your curious about Shozy. I would say give the Shozy T1 a try for a mere $29.90 as I find is strikingly simialr to their Djembe which is a $99 IEM.
These are not close to the authority of the B2 but you wont have to shell out $150 to get an idea of their tuning angle.

I actually did pick up the T1, and your review of Djembe did make me think of it’s sound aha. It was a bit treble peaky but I’m generally curious about Shozy since I love the sound of the Alien gold, and the T1 did have a bit of that textured musical flavor. The Alien is niche in it’s use but the depth/height of sound it portrays in a very uncompressed sounding way is a thing of beauty. I forget who’s review it was but one of the takes was that Shozy house sound is like a vintage speaker, which is bang on imo.

 

[activatorfly]

More controlled bass (more defined). thicker vocal weight, and better treble extension??? That would pretty much take care of every check against the Trio! Or just do what I did and buy a Hydro?

Exactamundo - exactly what I just did today....a now totally grooved in Rhapsody made the decision far easier imho !!