The discovery thread!
Apr 14, 2024 at 8:18 PM Post #98,986 of 100,413
lol, I had to tell emdeevee so that he can put that Trifecta challenger to the test! :smile:



Yup, I think we've answered a few together before. :punch:
Please, do not tell Watercoolers - their sanity may be challenged... Totally got the blind testing ban now - sanity of believers must be protected.

Though, as per the greatest wisdom of all that I learned from the Watercoolers - totls (and most of HiFi) are like fashion business - if one beleives that your few kilobucks are properly invested - the perception must be strongly self-enforced by group hugging/therapy - and it usually works quite well based on the success of this forum and Watercoolers.

Technically, if you put three DDs at 120 degrees angle to each other - the phase decoherence is unavoidable. Perhaps, Campfire invested a lot in their R&D to make it work nicely; or just the great "club atmosphere" was a right fashion hit with Campfire fans...

In some sense, Campfire may be argued to be more of a reknowned "fashion" rather than engineering leader, arguably, based on their insane low-impedance IEMs.
Campfire can be arguably credited with starting the "cable business" all alone with their multi-BA low-impedance IEMs - very much against sane engineering, but pro- fun/hobby.
Surely, if your source is totally out of specs (16 Ohm or above for most, it used to be) driving insanely low-impedance IEM - then everything will suddenly matter - cables, battery charge levels, etc.
Especially, if legendary Andromeda was purportedly tuned with 1.5-Ohm cable or so; "cable matching" may not be very easy and so it became a worthy hardcore game for elite audiophiles.
NiceHCK have been on form lately with their “better” releases like Himalaya and DragonScale 2. I’ve been buying their cheapies on and off for years but it wasn’t until very recently that I started taking their higher end stuff seriously.

I wasn’t much keen on their prior approach of selling surplus stock from supplying this or that famous cable brand and marketing them as dupes (and those cables were frankly hit and miss - some downright meh, some decent, others simply not to my taste).

But when they announced they were creating their own prototypes from different types of cable material, I was interested. So when they released a small batch of these prototypes during the last Ali sale, I picked up a few. I spent some time getting to know them and these are the ones I like most.

Most of the listening was done on the Himalaya, Titan, Quattro and Impact.

SSOrpheus



Pure silver cable. Very transparent and resolving, particularly in the mids and treble. Not bright or sharp; instead a full sound, more natural and less aggressive than you might expect from an SPC or hybrid. Good sub bass extension and definition though it won’t add note weight.

Interestingly, I noticed a peculiar lack of depth on open listen. I left it on the burner for about 10 hours and it opened right up. Perfectly aware of the different schools of thought on it, but this has got to be one of the more significant burn-ins I’ve actually heard.

Really nice colours but the fabric sheath (if it can be called fabric) is stiff, scratchy and microphonic.

DragonScale 2



(Not one of the new prototypes; but it stands tall among them)

Silver-palladium alloy. Very good upper treble and imaging, wide sound field. More bass pressure than something like SSOrpheus. Less mid-forward and less W-shaped than the likes of AuKing Ultra.

Different price bracket, but if I were to compare this with the much talked about Xinhs silver-palladium cable, the Xinhs is brighter and snappier. In comparison, the DragonScale 2 is much more resolving, brings more natural tonality and decay, has much more bass and is simply the more well-rounded product.

I’ve never heard OG DragonScale so can’t compare them.

AuKing Ultra



Gold plated copper. The vocal specialist of the lot, but also one with very nice treble extension and deep, textured bass. Fab mids for voices. Got my first goosebumps with Himalaya on this pairing. Treble here is more prominent and shimmery than SSOrpheus, but not sharp or fatiguing.

The most substantial bass of the three, though DragonScale 2 is not far behind.

It has an expansiveness in its staging that I associate with good copper. Conveys a clear sense of depth, layering and separation.

Compared to Eletech Raphael, AuKing Ultra is lusher, darker. Raph may be more resolving, or at least more overtly so because of its upper mid/lower treble tilt. ISN GC4 is a bit similar to AuKing Ultra in its darker colouration but AuKing Ultra has better (and more) bass.

Interestingly, Raph has relatively shallow depth compared to GC4 and AuKing Ultra.

Thiccc cable with a very soft fabric sheath and no microphonics of note once the music is playing. My favourite cable of the lot.
When I first heard about "palladium-silver alloys", I used to try to argue about physics, materials science, sane common sense...
Now, I finally got it - for the Trifecta to totally outmatch Trio - few kilobuck cables are simply a must. Fashion business is a fashion business after all :)
 
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Apr 14, 2024 at 8:19 PM Post #98,987 of 100,413
The Hype 4 popped up on my radar, after canceling my pre-order for the Moondrop Dusk. But seeing that LinSlooowwwwww wants at least 2 months lead time 🤮
that wait time is gross
 
Apr 14, 2024 at 8:41 PM Post #98,988 of 100,413
During my recent trip to the SG for Canjam, I explored a lot of HiFi audio gear. This one week trip, I did not visit any tourist place in SG, but all the different audio stores and CanJam. I found many IEMs that were on my radar since a long time, but i never got a chance to audition them. One such IEM is this one, the Nostalgia Audio Camelot. I tried this at Zeppelin with the help of Jordan Oki.

Man this IEM instantly made me fall in love with it, talk about excellently balanced sound throughout the frequency band. Superb transient speed, snappy(quick) bass response, and lovely resolution throughout the frequency band. This is an IEM I fell in love within an instant and Now after coming back to my country i miss the most lol. Maybe some day will get one and add to my ever growing collection haha.
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for $2600 it better make my audio dreams come true!
 
Apr 14, 2024 at 8:44 PM Post #98,989 of 100,413
"Since I haven't heard anything in 500$ plus range (iems), I can only wonder, but that Trio is quite awesome indeed." (greymousetaxi). So you haven't tried anything out in the $500 plus range but are commenting about the Nio and Cascara. Don't worry, I won't call you a shill.
Hmmm that quote about trio and 500 dollar iems was mine. Not the words of grey mouse as you have made it out to be there

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the-discovery-thread.586909/post-18072338 is the post referenced.
 
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Apr 14, 2024 at 11:38 PM Post #98,991 of 100,413
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I've just completed my review of the USD $22.99 NiceHCK DB2s, which you're invited to read here. :smile:
 
Apr 15, 2024 at 12:00 AM Post #98,992 of 100,413
that wait time is gross
The Hype 4 popped up on my radar, after canceling my pre-order for the Moondrop Dusk. But seeing that LinSlooowwwwww wants at least 2 months lead time 🤮

I saw that it’s on Amazon US now the other night, if you wanna try your luck there
 
Apr 15, 2024 at 12:23 AM Post #98,993 of 100,413
During my recent trip to the SG for Canjam, I explored a lot of HiFi audio gear. This one week trip, I did not visit any tourist place in SG, but all the different audio stores and CanJam. I found many IEMs that were on my radar since a long time, but i never got a chance to audition them. One such IEM is this one, the Nostalgia Audio Camelot. I tried this at Zeppelin with the help of Jordan Oki.

Man this IEM instantly made me fall in love with it, talk about excellently balanced sound throughout the frequency band. Superb transient speed, snappy(quick) bass response, and lovely resolution throughout the frequency band. This is an IEM I fell in love within an instant and Now after coming back to my country i miss the most lol. Maybe some day will get one and add to my ever growing collection haha.
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For almost $3,000 with tax, I sure hope it sounds out of this world, otherwise you're dealing with scammers? At that price....
 
Apr 15, 2024 at 12:25 AM Post #98,994 of 100,413

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PENON VOLTAGE Flagship Audiophile In-ear Monitor
4 Sonion Electrostatic+4 Sonion Balanced Armature+2DD hybrid with 2 Tuning Switches

4 x Sonion Electrostatic for ultra-high frequency
2 x Sonion Balanced Armature for high frequency
2 x Sonion Balanced Armature for middle frequency
2 x 8mm dynamic driver for low frequency
4-way crossover, 4 tubes

Tuning mode:
12: High Frequency & Low Frequency Enhancement
10: Low Frequency Enhancement
02: High Frequency Enhancement
00: Original mode
Let me guess? $1,499.00?
 
Apr 15, 2024 at 12:30 AM Post #98,995 of 100,413
JIJUMA AND JIJUMA BRASS EARTIPS!

This is a new upgraded variant of the Jijujet eartips. The inner plug is made of brass instead of stainless steel in the OG, which the maker says will change the sound.

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https://www.makuake.com/project/jijufin3/


Looks like a pet Elizabethian collar?

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Apr 15, 2024 at 12:36 AM Post #98,996 of 100,413
JIJUMA AND JIJUMA BRASS EARTIPS!

This is a new upgraded variant of the Jijujet eartips. The inner plug is made of brass instead of stainless steel in the OG, which the maker says will change the sound.

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https://www.makuake.com/project/jijufin3/


Looks like a pet Elizabethian collar?

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So some dudes put on ear tips the wrong way one day and said “hmmm, not bad”
 
Apr 15, 2024 at 12:42 AM Post #98,997 of 100,413
Apr 15, 2024 at 12:46 AM Post #98,998 of 100,413
So switching back and forth between the Simgot EW200 and the CCA Trio. I scratch my chin, wondering what a silly game changing and market disrupting IEM we'd have if we could harness the resolution and timbre of the EW200 and throw it on the Trio. It would instantly be the BOSS. I wonder if something similar to very close exists already? The EW200 lacks the bass punch, imaging, spacing and soundstage of the Trio, but matches it in transparency, bests it in bass nimbleness and resolution top to bottom. If only...
 
Apr 15, 2024 at 12:55 AM Post #99,000 of 100,413
So switching back and forth between the Simgot EW200 and the CCA Trio. I scratch my chin, wondering what a silly game changing and market disrupting IEM we'd have if we could harness the resolution and timbre of the EW200 and throw it on the Trio. It would instantly be the BOSS. I wonder if something similar to very close exists already? The EW200 lacks the bass punch, imaging, spacing and soundstage of the Trio, but matches it in transparency, bests it in bass nimbleness and resolution top to bottom. If only...
I like my EW200 but it sounds so bright when coming from my warm/neutral prefered sets. Takes me awhile to settle in with it when I switch over.
 

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