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Mar 2, 2024 at 10:58 AM Post #96,436 of 100,554
Just saw this info on the cooler thread. It’s sad to see that JH audio is going under, though not surprising, given how uncompetitive their IEMs are (to my ears).

Wonder if Ultimate Ears is the next one on the chopping board.

Is there any ChiFi that can do CIEM? I’m thinking about buying one but there is nothing decent in the CIEM line up of 64 audio until the A12t.
Hisenior T4 is wonderfully tuned.
 
Mar 2, 2024 at 12:36 PM Post #96,438 of 100,554
Check the Review for KiwiEars Orchestra Lite. Still holds its ground.

- https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/kiwiears-orchestra-lite.26363/reviews#review-33163

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Mar 2, 2024 at 4:54 PM Post #96,440 of 100,554
are these the only devices that go against the miniaturization trend in electronics?
Smart phones are also huge

Joke aside, I don’t think these DAP go against the miniaturisation trend. To me, something like the R8ii, M17, DX320 Max is the shrink down version of the desktop DAC and amp. Something like the R3ii shows how small these devices can get if they stick to a more mobile audio design.
 
Mar 2, 2024 at 5:41 PM Post #96,441 of 100,554
Smart phones are also huge

Joke aside, I don’t think these DAP go against the miniaturisation trend. To me, something like the R8ii, M17, DX320 Max is the shrink down version of the desktop DAC and amp. Something like the R3ii shows how small these devices can get if they stick to a more mobile audio design.
Agree. Plus, The trend to Streaming Audio from the Internet, has changed the DAP to "have" to be a Streaming Device; (Since more people today listen to streaming music than their own music files.)
- And Once the DAP is internet connected, people want the ability to add your own apps;
- And pretty soon you need a large screen to manage everything.

- Wireless Phones also stopped getting smaller, when they got wifi/internet connected for many of the same reason. (Phones also became Still and Video Cameras ! Hope we don't add that to our DAP/Music Players too. LOL)

If just an Audio Phone, and if just a Audio Player of LocaL Music file, both devices would probably be a lot smaller with tiny screens if any screen at all.
 
Mar 2, 2024 at 6:06 PM Post #96,442 of 100,554
Mar 2, 2024 at 7:14 PM Post #96,444 of 100,554
Just saw this info on the cooler thread. It’s sad to see that JH audio is going under, though not surprising, given how uncompetitive their IEMs are (to my ears).

Wonder if Ultimate Ears is the next one on the chopping board.

Is there any ChiFi that can do CIEM? I’m thinking about buying one but there is nothing decent in the CIEM line up of 64 audio until the A12t.
The TF10 is still his greatest tuning feat. Done with three simple BA's. He never replicated that success.
 
Mar 2, 2024 at 7:56 PM Post #96,445 of 100,554
Smart phones are also huge

Joke aside, I don’t think these DAP go against the miniaturisation trend. To me, something like the R8ii, M17, DX320 Max is the shrink down version of the desktop DAC and amp. Something like the R3ii shows how small these devices can get if they stick to a more mobile audio design.
This thing is ginormous
Hiby R8ii

Doing some a/b/c comparison to get a sense of its sound signature
 

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Mar 3, 2024 at 12:23 AM Post #96,446 of 100,554
Last impression on HIBY R8 II

As I've testing this device for few days since it was opened, I really still amazed on how this DAP performs pretty well that its own PWM-based delta-sigma DACs (apologies for my erroneous information that this set is a R2R-based DAC in my first impression post). This DAP is quite indeed a heft and chunky to hold but I was able to hold for one and a half hour during my continuous briskwalking session.


While this set leaning towards of a warmish-neutral tuning that really gives a more natural tone and timbre on all vocal types and instruments with a good amount of detail and dynamics that we love to hear. Its technical performance is quite impressive as its moniker "Mobile Concert Hall" truly define its character that this device will project it clearly as you are in a moderate-size concert or orchestral hall as I did some visit on some popular venue concert hall that I can estimate its perceive width, height and depth.


Will post a full review on this one in few days, I'm already at the half part on typing down some observation as for I post this last impression about this blissful device. Have a nice day, mates!


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Mar 3, 2024 at 1:21 AM Post #96,447 of 100,554
Last impression on HIBY R8 II

As I've testing this device for few days since it was opened, I really still amazed on how this DAP performs pretty well that its own PWM-based delta-sigma DACs (apologies for my erroneous information that this set is a R2R-based DAC in my first impression post). This DAP is quite indeed a heft and chunky to hold but I was able to hold for one and a half hour during my continuous briskwalking session.


While this set leaning towards of a warmish-neutral tuning that really gives a more natural tone and timbre on all vocal types and instruments with a good amount of detail and dynamics that we love to hear. Its technical performance is quite impressive as its moniker "Mobile Concert Hall" truly define its character that this device will project it clearly as you are in a moderate-size concert or orchestral hall as I did some visit on some popular venue concert hall that I can estimate its perceive width, height and depth.


Will post a full review on this one in few days, I'm already at the half part on typing down some observation as for I post this last impression about this blissful device. Have a nice day, mates!


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Testing one as well the more I listen to it the more Iike it. Not as resolving as the Shanling M8 or A&K Kann Max but more musical smoother and very addicting sound signature.
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Mar 3, 2024 at 1:58 AM Post #96,448 of 100,554
DCD for the win!...........but wait? Is that? Is that an Penon ASOS cable I see? Reportedly a member said it was his favorite cable out of 80 different cables! I wouldn't go that far, but I love it still?
Testing one as well the more I listen to it the more Iike it. Not as resolving as the Shanling M8 or A&K Kann Max but more musical smoother and very addicting sound signature.
 
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Mar 3, 2024 at 2:35 AM Post #96,450 of 100,554
DCD for the win!...........but wait? Is that? Is that an Penon ASOS cable I see? Reportedly a member said it was his favorite cable out of 80 different cables! I would go that far but I love it sill?
That was me, and I stand by it. Though it possibly ties with the Effect Audio Ares II+. Obviously this is very subjective!
 
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