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Feb 14, 2024 at 12:40 AM Post #95,431 of 103,555
My thoughts about Verdandi
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Feb 14, 2024 at 12:44 AM Post #95,432 of 103,555
Here is one to put on your radar.
SLIIVO MYER04
Brand New from Meyer Audio
6 BA $399
Sonion Open Aperature Bass Drivers
Custom Sonion balanced amature mids BA's
Custom Knowles High Frequency BA's
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mL8
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Feb 14, 2024 at 12:56 AM Post #95,433 of 103,555
Feb 14, 2024 at 1:11 AM Post #95,434 of 103,555
Is this the one HBB said was the best of 2023 or something like that? The one with the ridiculous price tag?
That was the flagship that also have BC for the bass, the CP622B $3500. It's said to be the most audiophile tuned of the bunch.

Also a cheaper model CP32E at $800, the brightest of the bunch with more forward midrange and highs. If not wrong. I have it here for loan, but CP54E stole my eartime last day.

The CP54E i showed above is also expensive at $2000, I admit I'm thinking about perhaps selling more stuff like my Neon Pro and more to get it 🫣
 
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Feb 14, 2024 at 1:20 AM Post #95,435 of 103,555
I'm definitely intrigued by the Trio but I don't find the design very attractive. It looks cheap 😕
I think it's completely pointless to talk about design in the case of KZ/CCA. Just as they produce new and new barely distinguishable models at a frantic pace, their design is just a variation on the same theme. And indeed, even to me, it gives a very cheap impression.
 
Feb 14, 2024 at 1:50 AM Post #95,436 of 103,555
CCA Trio with copper, silver, and gold mix cable (I was using the NiceHCK Black Cat) with balanced end, with Spiral Dot tips and plugged into the DX170 = I'm pretty shocked how good these can sound. KZ threw something at the wall, and it stuck. Obviously I won't be taking this thing out for a mobile spin (DX170), but for at home, it's almost as good as the EA1000 and the OD200 (not as refined as these two, but still...it's not too far off. Maybe 5% back? Yeah. I said it). They sound great with my mobile on the go players like my Sony A306, A17, Cowon J, and Fiio X3III, and I just picked up an Apple iPod Classic (7th 128GB) for a steal, that will be my traveling jukebox player.
 
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Feb 14, 2024 at 1:56 AM Post #95,437 of 103,555
That was the flagship that also have BC for the bass, the CP622B $3500. It's said to be the most neutrale/audiophile tuned of the bunch.

Also a cheaper model CP32E at $800, the brightest of the bunch with more forward midrange and highs. If not wrong. I have it here for loan, but CP54E stole my eartime last day.

The CP54E i showed above is also expensive at $2000, I admit I'm thinking about perhaps selling more stuff like my Neon Pro and more to get it 🫣
WOW! You're let go of your NP? That's speaking volumes!
 
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:00 AM Post #95,438 of 103,555
That was the flagship that also have BC for the bass, the CP622B $3500. It's said to be the most neutrale/audiophile tuned of the bunch.

Also a cheaper model CP32E at $800, the brightest of the bunch with more forward midrange and highs. If not wrong. I have it here for loan, but CP54E stole my eartime last day.

The CP54E i showed above is also expensive at $2000, I admit I'm thinking about perhaps selling more stuff like my Neon Pro and more to get it 🫣

Glad you're enjoying 54E!

CP32E is more audiophile neutral than 622b going from graphs and distant memory of hearing it. 32E is my favourite IEM for jazz and small ensemble. A very refined sound with lovely texture.
 
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:53 AM Post #95,439 of 103,555
Here is one to put on your radar.
SLIIVO MYER04
Brand New from Meyer Audio
6 BA $399
Sonion Open Aperature Bass Drivers
Custom Sonion balanced amature mids BA's
Custom Knowles High Frequency BA's
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mL8orp4

That's a beautiful shell combined with beautiful tuning. Drivers inside also looks promising.
I believe this sounds good, except that protrude on 4.5khz that intended to give extra resolution maybe will alter the timbre a little bit since the amount a little bit too high from neutral point. But they have extension with quite good amount for BAs (EST need more boost than BA) and non bleeding bass shelf, those are good points.
 
Feb 14, 2024 at 4:00 AM Post #95,440 of 103,555
This is proving to be a beautiful combo to listen to. EPZ Q5 and FiiO BTR7.

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It probably helps that the tunes are wonderful too:

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Feb 14, 2024 at 4:51 AM Post #95,441 of 103,555
Not a fan of cheap BA's. If i'm gonna invest in any hybrid with BA's, I'd prefer knowles or Sonion.
I really wish you are the one who tried it and gave your opinion. As the half the mids are still handled by the second DD, you would not get any sheen or poor BA timbre.
 
Feb 14, 2024 at 6:28 AM Post #95,442 of 103,555
This is proving to be a beautiful combo to listen to. EPZ Q5 and FiiO BTR7.

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It probably helps that the tunes are wonderful too:

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A lovely piece of music. Nice textures especially in the bass, very calming. Karunesh is great, Zen Breakfast is also a nice album.
 
Feb 14, 2024 at 6:32 AM Post #95,443 of 103,555
I dug out my old Cambridge Audio SE1 IEMs and paired them with my Aiderlot DC02 dongle from a Samsung Galaxy. Lovely sound, rich bass and sparkling highs, airy staging. They still hold up very well.
 
Feb 14, 2024 at 6:44 AM Post #95,444 of 103,555
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Simgot EA500LM

I will make this a shorter post, i'm not going to make any review for it. Been a lot of reviews already about the EA500LM, highly praised by most. The EA500LM is their newest release, I guess it's meant as the successor to the EA500 that was so well received last year. You get the same shell and build here as the original, also the tuning nozzles to change up the sound.

What they market the driver tech as:

The 2nd Generation Of Dual-Magnet & Dual-Cavity Lithium-Magnesium Diaphragm Dynamic Driver In-Ear Earphones.


And some inside info I heard from a friend, the EA500LM most likely has the same driver as the DUNU Falcon Ultra. Not confirmed, but I know that people who had heard both EA1000 and Falcon Ultra preferred the latter. And now it seems like maybe most prefer the tonality of EA500LM more than the EA1000, for me it's a mixed bag and I like both.

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Looking at measurements from Gizaudio:

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So similar looking from measurement perspective, when listening there are differences.

EA500LM is then the most rich sounding of them, the driver has a thicker tonality overall.
EA1000 is the most resolving and delicate sounding one of the bunch.
Ea500 is then the brightest and thinnest sounding.

If you have ever heard an EA500 and found it too shouty or metallic, that will also appear on EA1000 and EA500LM. But it's less on EA1000 than EA500 for me, and EA500LM less than EA1000.

I am quite tolerant to upper mids, so I find all of them okay (EA500 only together with mod)

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The sub bass is more on EA500LM as also the measurement show, but in theory it's close to the same as EA1000 depending on the music. I find that the EA500LM slam better while maybe the EA1000 has richer nuanced sound on stuff like cello playing etc. While EA500 is behind the EA500LM in both quality and amount.

Midrange is more resolving and nuanced on EA1000, while the sound is denser and more emotional on EA500LM. Never liked the EA500 for the midrange, find it shouty and unrefined.

Treble is good on all 3, my favorite is the EA1000 as it's more resolving and natural. All 3 have a good amount of clarity and air.

Soundstage is a tough one and very personal, EA500 and EA500LM are both on the average size for me. Ea1000 has a more spacious sound overall, I am not sure if it's due to the driver or that it's extra vented.

Technicalities of the EA500 and EA500LM are about the same, only the EA1000 has something extra in the bass and midrange.

The tonality makes it good with most music, and since technicalities and sub bass is good I might like it the most for stuff like technical electronica. Only on some sharper music with forward upper mids I might not like it as much.

Next two photos are EA1000 and EA500LM, very similar except for material. Venting is also different.

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Conclusion for me is that the EA500LM is perhaps their safest and funniest IEM of the EA series, the more rich and dense sound is sure to please more people.
It is also the one I would recommend for most people,especially if you want to introduce IEMs to someone new. The upper mids can be shouty for some, and should be considered.

I bet this will be the new recommendation from Simgot now, that will be remembered throughout the year.

Pros:
Bass quality
Deep sub bass
Good slam
Richer midrange than previous EA models
Clear and extended treble
Energetic tuning with wow factor
Cost to performance
Excellent build quality
Small IEMs
Tunable with the nozzles, even more if you buy materials for tuning.
Sound good from all sources

Cons:
Energetic tuning
Upper mids aggressive
Soundstage average
Ergonomics is good but the nozzle is short, so the body of the IEM limits depth into the ear.
More difference on the nozzle tunings would be nice
Cable while okay look very cheap



Sitting here writing this while listening to some techno, sounds good to me. Most of my listening been done with their new dongle DEW4X, most likely my favorite Cirrus Logic unit so far. Often found some models from last year a little sterile, this seem to be an improvement and good value. Will try and compare some more to my two other models, and say some later this week.

 
Feb 14, 2024 at 6:55 AM Post #95,445 of 103,555
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Simgot EA500LM

I will make this a shorter post, i'm not going to make any review for it. Been a lot of reviews already about the EA500LM, highly praised by most. The EA500LM is their newest release, I guess it's meant as the successor to the EA500 that was so well received last year. You get the same shell and build here as the original, also the tuning nozzles to change up the sound.

What they market the driver tech as:

The 2nd Generation Of Dual-Magnet & Dual-Cavity Lithium-Magnesium Diaphragm Dynamic Driver In-Ear Earphones.


And some inside info I heard from a friend, the EA500LM most likely has the same driver as the DUNU Falcon Ultra. Not confirmed, but I know that people who had heard both EA1000 and Falcon Ultra preferred the latter. And now it seems like maybe most prefer the tonality of EA500LM more than the EA1000, for me it's a mixed bag and I like both.

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Looking at measurements from Gizaudio:

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So similar looking from measurement perspective, when listening there are differences.

EA500LM is then the most rich sounding of them, the driver has a thicker tonality overall.
EA1000 is the most resolving and delicate sounding one of the bunch.
Ea500 is then the brightest and thinnest sounding.

If you have ever heard an EA500 and found it too shouty or metallic, that will also appear on EA1000 and EA500LM. But it's less on EA1000 than EA500 for me, and EA500LM less than EA1000.

I am quite tolerant to upper mids, so I find all of them okay (EA500 only together with mod)

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The sub bass is more on EA500LM as also the measurement show, but in theory it's close to the same as EA1000 depending on the music. I find that the EA500LM slam better while maybe the EA1000 has richer nuanced sound on stuff like cello playing etc. While EA500 is behind the EA500LM in both quality and amount.

Midrange is more resolving and nuanced on EA1000, while the sound is denser and more emotional on EA500LM. Never liked the EA500 for the midrange, find it shouty and unrefined.

Treble is good on all 3, my favorite is the EA1000 as it's more resolving and natural. All 3 have a good amount of clarity and air.

Soundstage is a tough one and very personal, EA500 and EA500LM are both on the average size for me. Ea1000 has a more spacious sound overall, I am not sure if it's due to the driver or that it's extra vented.

Technicalities of the EA500 and EA500LM are about the same, only the EA1000 has something extra in the bass and midrange.

The tonality makes it good with most music, and since technicalities and sub bass is good I might like it the most for stuff like technical electronica. Only on some sharper music with forward upper mids I might not like it as much.

Next two photos are EA1000 and EA500LM, very similar except for material. Venting is also different.

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Conclusion for me is that the EA500LM is perhaps their safest and funniest IEM of the EA series, the more rich and dense sound is sure to please more people.
It is also the one I would recommend for most people,especially if you want to introduce IEMs to someone new. The upper mids can be shouty for some, and should be considered.

I bet this will be the new recommendation from Simgot now, that will be remembered throughout the year.

Pros:
Bass quality
Deep sub bass
Good slam
Richer midrange than previous EA models
Clear and extended treble
Energetic tuning with wow factor
Cost to performance
Excellent build quality
Small IEMs
Tunable with the nozzles, even more if you buy materials for tuning.
Sound good from all sources

Cons:
Energetic tuning
Upper mids aggressive
Soundstage average
Ergonomics is good but the nozzle is short, so the body of the IEM limits depth into the ear.
More difference on the nozzle tunings would be nice
Cable while okay look very cheap



Sitting here writing this while listening to some techno, sounds good to me. Most of my listening been done with their new dongle DEW4X, most likely my favorite Cirrus Logic unit so far. Often found some models from last year a little sterile, this seem to be an improvement and good value. Will try and compare some more to my two other models, and say some later this week.


Might get the EA500LM to compare to the Q5 I rate highly. Their graphs are wildly similar.

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If the EA500LM can provide a bit better controlled bass and improved technicalities it'd be a W for me.
 

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