The discovery thread!
Mar 23, 2023 at 4:40 PM Post #74,851 of 106,694
My internal odd ball lover spirit slapping my butt for this JUZEAR 41T…That faceplate looks nice, a mixture of Softears RS10 / ceberus style.

Maybe really a Cerberus/RS10 homage.


I know 君子不器 Junzi brand for long, it’s a good opportunity utilizing AE anniversary discount. Now it’s $139 less 15 = $124 for proper sonion + knowles 4+1.

JUZEAR 41T
https://a.aliexpress.com/_msiRja6

I just got a $100 cash rebate from credit card…I dumped it to this….

Maybe another SR5, maybe not. 48ohm Is something very rare to see for modern IEM.

That is a similar driver configuration to the new Hidizs MD5.
 
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Mar 23, 2023 at 5:08 PM Post #74,852 of 106,694
Just when I decided to upgrade my IEMs and buy the Dusk, moondrop just releases a teaser for the blessing 3...
 
Mar 23, 2023 at 6:37 PM Post #74,853 of 106,694
Contents will be posted tomorrow.
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—Story with qdc tuning
Yes. I am officially a qdc tuning fan.
Of which You probably would have couple in mind. DUNU SA6, Tri Starsea, See Audio Bravery and high-end models, the qdc itself Anole series.

Nobody would expect a company had zero FR recording on western measurement database would ever be able to tune a good IEM.

Sound Rhyme, did proof their tuning skill by SR5 now, then we came up with simple question, “Are they really good or just one miracle shot?”.
Probably Sound Rhyme is a master tuner.

Here comes Sound Rhyme‘s latest 5-unit EST tribrid, DTE500 sitting in between qdc family King —qdc Anole VX —and Queen —Aur Audio Neon Pro.

Very color matched trio of
Silver / Rose Gold / Obsidian
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—As many of you already know, I set up a poll to see if head-fi community is OK with me receiving a free review unit, in reviewing this DTE500 from Penon, the feedbacks were very unanimous “just go and review it, nobody can provide an objective review, it’s subjective thing so just be honest”. So here comes the review Unit. Anyhow, please be advised to put up 10% of positive unconscious bias in this impression note. $449 is not a joking price, you have to put some serious guts in clicking “buy” button.

A-B Test against close tuning and composition IEMs

Left to Right

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Thieaudio Monarch (2EST+6BA+1DD) : Minitor-style lean neutral with sub-bass boost
DUNU SA6 ( 6BA) : Mid-flat Neutral U
Sound Rhyme SR5 (4BA+1DD) : Mid-focused Neutral U
Unique Melody MEST MkII (2EST+1dBC+4BA+1DD): Warm neutral with an extra dimension of sound imaging
Aur Audio Neon Pro (10BA): mid-focused neutral + U shape
Sound Rhyme DTE500 (2EST(with Empire Ears developed voltage multiplier EIVEC) + 2BA +1DD)
qdc Anole VX (10BA): mid-focused neutral + U shape
Moondrop Variations (2EST+2BA+1DD): VDSF with sub-bass boost
See Audio Bravery (4BA) : Mid-focused Neutral U
Softears RSV (5BA) : Uppermid focused Neutral with sub-bass boost
Sound Rhyme SR5 (4BA+1DD) : Mid-boosted U
Xenns Mangird Tea (6BA+1DD) : Monitor-style warm neutral

-Fletcher Munson considered, I tried to level sound volume of each IEM at the same level based on personal listening
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⭕️Note (Dry - Thin < Rich - Fat)


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⭕️Neutral Tonal Balance overall (Uncolored > Colored)

DTE500 > SA6 > RSV > Tea > MEST MKII > Monarch > Variations > Anole VX > Neon Pro > SR5 > Bravery

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⭕️Bass Presence: overall bass range mass x transient speed (if too quick, no perceived presence)

https://tidal.com/track/272909903
Modern Drum N’ Bass with Piano and spatial spices added, Bass presence is a must.


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⭕️Bass Slam (Heavy > Light) Transient Speed x Sub Bass Mass x Carrying Energy

https://tidal.com/track/91580143
From the Intro, the bass drum slams hard with deep deep reaching Floor Tom, an easy pick for the Bass Slam test.



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⭕️Bass Organic Quality (Organic > Artificial) Yes I care about bass a lot.

This is not quantity, it’s imaging texture x timbre dynamism (impulse response & inertia ) x spatial bass range resonance


https://tidal.com/track/222971111
Yo-Yo-Ma Cello x New York Phil x MQA, Bass quality performance doesn’t lie for this track.



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⭕️Mid-Bass level (Scooped vs Bleed)

https://tidal.com/track/167963393
J-POP generally has a lower tolerance floor toward mid-bass. The Bassist and other mid-bass instruments/sound needs to at least stay 5m away from the main vocalist. If Bassist is positioned localized or in front of a vocalist or interfered with, unless the original mix is intended, will be considered a mid-bass bleed.




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⭕️Mid-Harmonics

https://tidal.com/track/134158348
Masters of harmonics, Brian Eno and Roger Eno, they speak Harmonics instead of English. This whole album is a masterpiece. Let you know by the magic of simplicity and complexity can co-exist and each track has synesthetic colors.



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⭕️Female Vocal Presence - Eastern


Princess Mononoke Theme Song is covered by Korean Singer Dazbee, a female vocalist with a translucent and fragile beautiful voice. Not a specific FR gain spot, but more of an overall presentation. Micro detail-oriented.



⭕️Female Vocal Presence - Western
https://tidal.com/track/64980702
Rinaldo, HWV, wider macro dynamic range.




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⭕️6khz Sibilance

https://tidal.com/track/155965268
One good example of harsh-sounding vocal tracks is order from less sibilant. One of the deal breaker factors for some.


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⭕️Treble detail articulation

https://tidal.com/track/77611296
This Karajan x Berlin Phil x MQA x Mussorgsky is a very good test track for treble detail articulation. This will reveal IEM’s true spec when A-B is tested. No excuses because 10BA and EST drivers do outperform 2BA or Single BA, DDS.



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⭕️Sense of Air /Finesse


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⭕️Imaging Focus

Thanks to @FranQL for the discovery this track, from 7:00 has an exceptionally good imaging focus section.
https://tidal.com/track/154520073



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⭕️Sound Pressure actuation

https://tidal.com/track/131729675
To some people, realistic sound pressure comes to the first of all checklist, this track has a wide range of sound pressures, sub-bass to air /finesse.



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⭕️(Artificial /Colored) Diffusion Field -Size

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⭕️(Artificial /Colored ) Diffusion Field -Position Conformity


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⭕️Overall Resolving Capabilities (all frequency )

https://tidal.com/track/222971113
Again, very highly demanding orchestral that has resolution requirements from sub-bass all the way to the top end.


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⭕️Personal Pick (2023)

That IEM looks like candy

Looking forward for details regarding imaging, soundstage, and resolution.
 
Mar 23, 2023 at 7:41 PM Post #74,854 of 106,694
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Mar 24, 2023 at 12:12 AM Post #74,855 of 106,694
Just when I decided to upgrade my IEMs and buy the Dusk, moondrop just releases a teaser for the blessing 3...

When someone finally bought u12t after long time saving, precogvision sold his u12t and come with u4s with half price and better tuning...

That will always happen brother, don't regret it, enjoy your dusk, still great for midfi IEM till today standard
 
Mar 24, 2023 at 12:32 AM Post #74,856 of 106,694
When someone finally bought u12t after long time saving, precogvision sold his u12t and come with u4s with half price and better tuning...

That will always happen brother, don't regret it, enjoy your dusk, still great for midfi IEM till today standard
To be fair, Orchestra Lite with U-shape EQ can get dangerously close to high-end sound.

Price of good sound will keep dropping (as @AmericanSpirit wishes, for democratising head-fi). At the same time, there would always be “bigger fishes” with cutting edge tech and implementation. Those who wants that edge, must put up with poor price/performance.
 
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Mar 24, 2023 at 12:52 AM Post #74,857 of 106,694
Just when I decided to upgrade my IEMs and buy the Dusk, moondrop just releases a teaser for the blessing 3...
Dusk is still a good set, I don't see this set dropping out of relevance anytime soon unless the B3 brings doomsday to the competition.
 
Mar 24, 2023 at 1:08 AM Post #74,858 of 106,694
To be fair, Orchestra Lite with U-shape EQ can get dangerously close to high-end sound.

Price of good sound will keep dropping (as @AmericanSpirit wishes, for democratising head-fi). At the same time, there would always be “bigger fishes” with cutting edge tech and implementation. Those who wants that edge, must put up with poor price/performance.

The orchestra lite indeed on my wish list, the tuning is really up to my alley, especially with much value price than SA6

But as @AmericanSpirit mentioned before: blessing 3 is right kn the corner, probably truthear flagship on the making, those sound rhymes, oh boy..

Yet I'm still convincing myself that i don't need those. Hard times we are living now 😅
 
Mar 24, 2023 at 1:12 AM Post #74,859 of 106,694
My internal odd ball lover spirit slapping my butt for this JUZEAR 41T…That faceplate looks nice, a mixture of Softears RS10 / ceberus style.

Maybe really a Cerberus/RS10 homage.


I know 君子不器 Junzi brand for long, it’s a good opportunity utilizing AE anniversary discount. Now it’s $139 less 15 = $124 for proper sonion + knowles 4+1.

JUZEAR 41T
https://a.aliexpress.com/_msiRja6

I just got a $100 cash rebate from credit card…I dumped it to this….

Maybe another SR5, maybe not. 48ohm Is something very rare to see for modern IEM.


My internal odd ball lover spirit slapping my butt for this JUZEAR 41T…That faceplate looks nice, a mixture of Softears RS10 / ceberus style.
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Maybe really a Cerberus/RS10 homage.
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I know 君子不器 Junzi brand for long, it’s a good opportunity utilizing AE anniversary discount. Now it’s $139 less 15 = $124 for proper sonion + knowles 4+1.

JUZEAR 41T
https://a.aliexpress.com/_msiRja6

I just got a $100 cash rebate from credit card…I dumped it to this….

Maybe another SR5, maybe not. 48ohm Is something very rare to see for modern IEM.
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Man, I too like finding hidden gems. Ima have to sell SR5's cuz they are too big for me, but these look nice and smaller. I am intrigued, might have to grab a pair too while on sale but I really shouldn't haha.
 
Mar 24, 2023 at 1:17 AM Post #74,860 of 106,694
The orchestra lite indeed on my wish list, the tuning is really up to my alley, especially with much value price than SA6

But as @AmericanSpirit mentioned before: blessing 3 is right kn the corner, probably truthear flagship on the making, those sound rhymes, oh boy..

Yet I'm still convincing myself that i don't need those. Hard times we are living now 😅
You don’t need them :dt880smile:

These can offer better price/performance, but it doesn’t matter since you have Z1R AND Monarch II. Even the birds and the jewels might not be relevant given such collection.
 
Mar 24, 2023 at 1:19 AM Post #74,861 of 106,694
Man, I too like finding hidden gems. Ima have to sell SR5's cuz they are too big for me, but these look nice and smaller. I am intrigued, might have to grab a pair too while on sale but I really shouldn't haha.
Ah.. sad to hear fit issue couldn’t be dealt 😭 That JUZEAR 41T’s Sonion Mid is very nice one, and 48ohm impedance with 112db sensitivity, Softears Targeting shell design, it maybe something😄

I know the sound rhyme aliexpress agent deals Junzi IEMs as well, so at least some minimum sound quality guarantee I can see there. 41T is very new release from Junzi, let’s see how this bet would roll.
 
Mar 24, 2023 at 1:25 AM Post #74,862 of 106,694
Ah.. sad to hear fit issue couldn’t be dealt 😭 That JUZEAR 41T’s Sonion Mid is very nice one, and 48ohm impedance with 112db sensitivity, Softears Targeting shell design, it maybe something😄

I know the sound rhyme aliexpress agent deals Junzi IEMs as well, so at least some minimum sound quality guarantee I can see there. 41T is very new release from Junzi, let’s see how this bet would roll.
Yeah, I hope its good. I may wait for your impressions or also take the gamble lol. They also made a 1 Planar 4 BA set :hushed:. JUZEAR TBS-01
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Mar 24, 2023 at 1:32 AM Post #74,863 of 106,694
Yeah, I hope its good. I may wait for your impressions or also take the gamble lol. They also made a 1 Planar 4 BA set :hushed:. JUZEAR TBS-01
Planar +4BA is new config to me hmm interesting.

I love that global01 store, its name is sooooo fishy and sketchy, but I know that’s the shop who started dealing Lafit ear, the niche of niche odd ball brand that shares some KZ supply chain components. Lafit ear is the only brand that utilizes KZ/CCA’s MST driver in their line ups, and it’s actually quite resolving.
 
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Mar 24, 2023 at 1:33 AM Post #74,864 of 106,694
Planar +4BA is new config to me hmm interesting.
Do you know any cheap but good IEM with sonion EST? I am thinking about adding an IEM with good EST implementation. Of course the monarch II is an option, but what else
 
Mar 24, 2023 at 1:38 AM Post #74,865 of 106,694
Planar +4BA is new config to me hmm interesting.

IMHO, planar IEMs if they do need any help, it is for a DD to help their low end bass excursion, which is a weakness in some planar IEMs (note this does not apply to planar headphones but IEMs, probably because of the smaller drivers used in IEMs).

Most planar IEMs already have good treble extension and resolution, and I think the added BAs don't really bring much value add to the table. In fact, if you see the DUNU Talos, which has a hybrid mode with the BA kicking in, it makes the Talos very shrill and harsh, and most users keep to the pure planar switch on the Talos.
 

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