Probably a combination of the open-back and the smaller driver. It's a 6-8mm driver? Needs more amplitude to push the amount of bass a 10mm driver can
The discovery thread!
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New colour for the hypetrain Tangzu Wan'er, green dragon wicked design. Called the "Hidden Dragon"?
Comes with new artwork too . Internals and tuning is not changed from the original version.
Releases May 2023. Though I think by the time it comes online, a whole landfill worth of budget hypetrains would have already filled our drawers and mailboxes LOL.
https://www.facebook.com/tangzuaudi...RWJqfXb8Vth4dJ8DZLnUiWq8giQvseE7WaJN8WheDzz6l
Comes with new artwork too . Internals and tuning is not changed from the original version.
Releases May 2023. Though I think by the time it comes online, a whole landfill worth of budget hypetrains would have already filled our drawers and mailboxes LOL.
https://www.facebook.com/tangzuaudi...RWJqfXb8Vth4dJ8DZLnUiWq8giQvseE7WaJN8WheDzz6l
Nice design IMO. They said it was coming in May.New colour for the hypetrain Tangzu Wan'er, green dragon wicked design. Called the "Hidden Dragon"?
Comes with new artwork too . Internals and tuning is not changed from the original version.
Releases May 2023. Though I think by the time it comes online, a whole landfill worth of budget hypetrains would have already filled our drawers and mailboxes LOL.
https://www.facebook.com/tangzuaudi...RWJqfXb8Vth4dJ8DZLnUiWq8giQvseE7WaJN8WheDzz6l
That sure is a mistake to announce something like that, and then wait 3 months to release it. I do not co-sign this
Yeah it's rather long wait for a color way on already released product, weird they didn't wait to 1 week before or something.
Come on now release the shimin li collab alreadyNew colour for the hypetrain Tangzu Wan'er, green dragon wicked design. Called the "Hidden Dragon"?
Comes with new artwork too . Internals and tuning is not changed from the original version.
Releases May 2023. Though I think by the time it comes online, a whole landfill worth of budget hypetrains would have already filled our drawers and mailboxes LOL.
https://www.facebook.com/tangzuaudi...RWJqfXb8Vth4dJ8DZLnUiWq8giQvseE7WaJN8WheDzz6l
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Not in his
I try my $9,000 bag of IEMs
orI torture myself with more Chinese IEMs
unless it's in an unmarked segment of the videos. So where does he talk about Penon or ISN IEMs?
AmericanSpirit
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Considering 80%+ of HOLA sales may go Asian Market where you see mostly high pitched(one example of smash hit modern J-pop)
HOLA handles peaky ”full sound pressure” tracks like those very well.
Aria OG is designed same way but the native driver of Aria somehow had bigger native driver spikes than HOLA, resulting further filtering to fit to the curve with a cost of timbre inconsistency.
HOLA has less inconsistency when compared to Aria OG, but even after full burn-in cycle, I still see 2khz and 4khz‘s last tail of transient response with some unnatural anti-alias like rounded edge, it may cost a tiny but of imaging accuracy in a synthetic listening mode(see below), and may generate “I don’t know why but this timbre doesn’t sound right to me” ish uneasiness.
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https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the-discovery-thread.586909/post-17382124
5. Pitch one -dimensionality and circularity
Although pitch is defined as a one -dimensional property, it has
long been pointed out that pitch cannot be explained simply by one
-dimensional properties, and the helical structure of pitch has been
suggested. Figure 7 shows how the pitch rises spirally as indicated by
the arrow as the frequency rises. In other words, the pitch has both a
vertical character and a one -octave cyclical character. The former is
called tone height or pitch height, and the latter is called tone chroma
or pitch class. This model holds roughly between 30 and 4,000 Hz. Above 4,000 Hz, the sense of tone chroma diminishes and melody
composition becomes difficult [15, 16]. Therefore, the combination of
tone chroma and tone height (sometimes tone chroma alone) is sometimes called musical pitch or melodic pitch. Note that, in Figure
7, tones with the same cyclical position (musical tones whose fundamental frequency differs by 2n times (n: an integer)] belong to the
same pitch class and have the same pitch name (C, D, E, etc.). Tone
height is often treated as one of the elements of tone color (brightness, hardness, sharpness, etc.), but in Japan it is sometimes called tonal
pitch. Based on various physiological experimental data and
experimental data on pitch perception, it was found that musical pitch
is generated by temporal information such as the spike interval of the
auditory nerve, and that timbre pitch is generated by the base.
6. Synthetic and analytical listening
When we hear a musical instrument such as a violin or flute, we usually perceive a single pitch equal to the pure tone corresponding to
the fundamental frequency. But if you focus your attention on a particular partial, you may be able to hear it. The former listening mode
is called synthetic listening, and the pitch perceived in that mode is
called synthetic pitch or composite pitch. On the other hand, the latter listening mode is called analytic listening, and the pitch in that mode is
called analytic pitch or partial pitch. But we don't always perceive the
overall pitch when casually listening to complex tones.
Smoorenburg in the Netherlands carried out an experiment for the
case of binary complex tones consisting of higher harmonics [17]. The
first tone consists of f1 = 1,750 Hz and f2 = 2,000 Hz, and the second
tone consists of f1 = 1,800 Hz and f2 = 2,000 Hz. We asked 84
listeners to judge which one felt higher (which one had higher pitch).
The results showed that 35 judged the first tone high, 32 judged the
second tone high, and the remaining 17 judged inconsistently. Listeners
who judged the first tone to be high performed comprehensive listening
focusing on the fundamental frequency component (missing
fundamental), and listeners who judged the second tone to be high
performed analytical listening focusing on partials. can be interpreted
as having
Hartmann of the United States conducted a pitch judgment
experiment in the classroom between two - component composite
tones in which the first tone consists of f1 = 750 Hz and f2 = 1,000 Hz,
and the second tone consists of f1 = 800 Hz and f2 = 1,000 Hz. [18] .
The results showed that 14 people judged the first tone high and 114
people judged the second tone high, far more than analytical listening.
This result is different from Smoorenburg 's result, but it is interpreted that Hartmann 's case has a low overtone order, which makes it easy
to decompose overtones and make analytical listening easier.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the-discovery-thread.586909/post-17382124
5. Pitch one -dimensionality and circularity
Although pitch is defined as a one -dimensional property, it has
long been pointed out that pitch cannot be explained simply by one
-dimensional properties, and the helical structure of pitch has been
suggested. Figure 7 shows how the pitch rises spirally as indicated by
the arrow as the frequency rises. In other words, the pitch has both a
vertical character and a one -octave cyclical character. The former is
called tone height or pitch height, and the latter is called tone chroma
or pitch class. This model holds roughly between 30 and 4,000 Hz. Above 4,000 Hz, the sense of tone chroma diminishes and melody
composition becomes difficult [15, 16]. Therefore, the combination of
tone chroma and tone height (sometimes tone chroma alone) is sometimes called musical pitch or melodic pitch. Note that, in Figure
7, tones with the same cyclical position (musical tones whose fundamental frequency differs by 2n times (n: an integer)] belong to the
same pitch class and have the same pitch name (C, D, E, etc.). Tone
height is often treated as one of the elements of tone color (brightness, hardness, sharpness, etc.), but in Japan it is sometimes called tonal
pitch. Based on various physiological experimental data and
experimental data on pitch perception, it was found that musical pitch
is generated by temporal information such as the spike interval of the
auditory nerve, and that timbre pitch is generated by the base.
6. Synthetic and analytical listening
When we hear a musical instrument such as a violin or flute, we usually perceive a single pitch equal to the pure tone corresponding to
the fundamental frequency. But if you focus your attention on a particular partial, you may be able to hear it. The former listening mode
is called synthetic listening, and the pitch perceived in that mode is
called synthetic pitch or composite pitch. On the other hand, the latter listening mode is called analytic listening, and the pitch in that mode is
called analytic pitch or partial pitch. But we don't always perceive the
overall pitch when casually listening to complex tones.
Smoorenburg in the Netherlands carried out an experiment for the
case of binary complex tones consisting of higher harmonics [17]. The
first tone consists of f1 = 1,750 Hz and f2 = 2,000 Hz, and the second
tone consists of f1 = 1,800 Hz and f2 = 2,000 Hz. We asked 84
listeners to judge which one felt higher (which one had higher pitch).
The results showed that 35 judged the first tone high, 32 judged the
second tone high, and the remaining 17 judged inconsistently. Listeners
who judged the first tone to be high performed comprehensive listening
focusing on the fundamental frequency component (missing
fundamental), and listeners who judged the second tone to be high
performed analytical listening focusing on partials. can be interpreted
as having
Hartmann of the United States conducted a pitch judgment
experiment in the classroom between two - component composite
tones in which the first tone consists of f1 = 750 Hz and f2 = 1,000 Hz,
and the second tone consists of f1 = 800 Hz and f2 = 1,000 Hz. [18] .
The results showed that 14 people judged the first tone high and 114
people judged the second tone high, far more than analytical listening.
This result is different from Smoorenburg 's result, but it is interpreted that Hartmann 's case has a low overtone order, which makes it easy
to decompose overtones and make analytical listening easier.
Anyone who has compared the Waner SG to the HOLA?
I’ve tried both. I like the tuning of the Hola a great deal. Waner is also good, but I was shocked at the quality of the Hola.
AmericanSpirit
Member of the Trade: Night Oblivion
Agree.
Tuning wise I feel both are on par, tuning with notable philosophy behind them.
Hardware spec wise HOLA has better transient response and resolution, and linear phase matching (imaging focus).
Meanwhile, Wan’er SG has good vibe in mid-bass tonality, wood bass, contrabass sounds pretty amusing, only limited by Wan’er SG‘s physical limit..A better driver is desired, I do hope new Shinmin Li x See Audio inherit the mid-bass echo chamber of Wan’er.
Maybe just my ears, but I feel that the Wan’er has more upper treble energy - air, resolution - when stock ear tips are used on both.
Btw, I noticed you also have the Truthear Zero. I found that the Zero’s stock small/narrow bore ear tips opens up the upper treble of the HOLA for me - gives cymbals, hi-hat a bit more clarity.
I don’t have the Aria OG, but I do have the KXXS, and find I prefer the HOLA tonality more.
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EDIT Wrong Thread, so here's a picture instead.
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