[lushmelody]

This is a double DD.

Lmao hope the note is thick

 

[darmanastartes]

I've posted my impressions of the Kiwi Ears Cadenza in my Head-Fi thread.

 

[Dsnuts]

Dunu!! You let me down...or more accurately...my EARS! The S&S are just too small for being "large". When I cupped my ears, I can see why @Dsnuts recc'd them, but 11mm is just too narrow for my ears. Now 13mm would work much better, and 14mm would be perfectly ideal. They really add amazing punch to the bass and such a crispness to the highs, but just too small. I'll sell, along with two pairs of Spinfits packs. Please release a 13-14mm XL S&S and i'm all over that like a blonde girl with blue eyes.

I would try them on your other IEMs as well as it will be more IEM dependent how they fit you vs being physically smaller than your average large. The reason why the S&S tips end up working is because of its longer fit. I only use large size tips myself but a lot of my IEMs work well with the S&S tips as it ends up sealing nicely, due to the skirt of the tips being more narrow it becomes very comfortable as well. Seal however is the key to why those work. Some IEMs with short nozzles will not work well with S&S tips but IEMS with longer nozzle end up working great.

I agree Dunu needs to make a bit wider skirt version of them as the large size is more like a medium but for IEMs the current sizes work with, they end up being brilliant tips. I would try them on your other IEMs to see how they fit. If anything, it's just another option for maximizing a sound from your IEMs which is never a bad thing.

 

[AmericanSpirit]

I've posted my impressions of the Kiwi Ears Cadenza in my Head-Fi thread.

Yea your closing word, it’s not bad if you don’t have $50 good IEM. Is basically one sentence summary of cadenza. Definitely not “sub $50 king” as hyped. This is my final conclusion after tip rolls, and 100hrs of burn in to Cadenza.

Attention calling for ongoing trend of “frequent collab reviewer”.

cadenza hit HBB’s top sub 50 ranking list based on:
▶︎Tonality tuning fits on his preferred curve (warm bass, inoffensive treble, neutral mid)
▶︎Possible business incentives of potential future collaboration with Kiwi Ears. Well at least Cadenza isn’t going to depreciate his HBB brand, not a bad IEM, so there will be a good monetary motivations. (I’m not indicating he is being bribed by Kiwi Ears. It’s most likely his voluntary hype)

Same business incentive applies to Crinacle’s latest ranking list. I see some “unusual” positive/negative biased scores that could be rooted from his own collaborations motivations. Not many, but countable few of them.

From professional ethics standpoint, these conflicts of interests are not good ingredients for their reviews. As one human being it is hard to completely separate personal interest with unbiased reviews. In business world, the professional firm providing “business consulting” shall be separated from the professional firm conducting objective audits.

That’s what I see from HBB/Crinacle’s once-purely-personal review has been transformed to somewhat “95% of them sounds fair, but some questions remained” one. That 5% is a bit phony, as they are not “review amateurs” that can mistakenly assess the score with more than 10% of margin of errors in the actual performance. The positive/negative bias is beyond margin of errors, which makes me wonder if there are any intentional biases are involved.

I’m not implying
“Don’t believe Reviewer’s score who does —constant—collaborations/consultations “

Just take it with a gain of salt.
Noting that there maybe monetary/intangible motivations and incentives behind self-proclaimed unbiased review.

Then apply subjective adjectives to “potential positive/negative biases” of their review product, to estimate the realistic result. This is called “Stress Test” technical analysis. Apply stress to potentially biased dataset, salvage recap result.

Back to Cadenza, it can be used as daily IEM to watch TV shows on tablet. A good dynamic theater like sound reproduction. Technically is just average. If not a bit rough textured detail articulation and mushy bass.

Recap of Cadenza:
Not bad. Not a game changer. If you own good $50-class single DD, it’s not worth to buy. If not, it’s a fair offer. But there will be better choice, like Tripowin’s Lea that could be found as low as $23 vs Cadenza’s $35.

 

[Guipnox]

Hey guys

Looking for a budget basshead IEM.
Up to $100-150 USD.
Fit is very important.
Any recommendations, please?

Thanks in advance,
Gui.

 

[AmericanSpirit]

Hey guys

Looking for a budget basshead IEM.
Up to $100-150 USD.
Fit is very important.
Any recommendations, please?

Thanks in advance,
Gui.

I’d think one of FiiO’s.

We have FiiO’s specialist here, maybe you could get more insights

 

[Vonbuddy]

What about Periodic Audio IEMs?

 

[Leonarfd]

Hey guys

Looking for a budget basshead IEM.
Up to $100-150 USD.
Fit is very important.
Any recommendations, please?

Thanks in advance,
Gui.

ISN D10, a fun and quite impressive sound. Alot of sub bass and mid bass. Only tried it for a short while, impressed.

This also depends how much bass you are looking for.

Can also go the more neutral way and EQ in some bass, and chose one of the best IEM's under 100$.

 

[Vonbuddy]

What about Periodic Audio IEMs?

I bought the Be v3 for 189. Is that reasonable?

 

[helloh3adfi]

Dunu!! You let me down...or more accurately...my EARS! The S&S are just too small for being "large". When I cupped my ears, I can see why @Dsnuts recc'd them, but 11mm is just too narrow for my ears. Now 13mm would work much better, and 14mm would be perfectly ideal. They really add amazing punch to the bass and such a crispness to the highs, but just too small. I'll sell, along with two pairs of Spinfits packs. Please release a 13-14mm XL S&S and i'm all over that like a blonde girl with blue eyes.

Dunno if Dunu is thinking about it @Sebastien Chiu ? Nonetheless I like them very much and size L is fitting on some of my IEMs and man the sparkle and more bass is recognizable. Great ear tips! Though my ears + 7Hz Timeless + S&S are not combatible, but then again Timeless build is very picky about tips.

 

[Sebastien Chiu]

Dunno if Dunu is thinking about it @Sebastien Chiu ? Nonetheless I like them very much and size L is fitting on some of my IEMs and man the sparkle and more bass is recognizable. Great ear tips! Though my ears + 7Hz Timeless + S&S are not combatible, but then again Timeless build is very picky about tips.

I can ask for you if we can consider making an XL version.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

Yea your closing word, it’s not bad if you don’t have $50 good IEM. Is basically one sentence summary of cadenza. Definitely not “sub $50 king” as hyped. This is my final conclusion after tip rolls, and 100hrs of burn in to Cadenza.

Attention calling for ongoing trend of “frequent collab reviewer”.

cadenza hit HBB’s top sub 50 ranking list based on:
▶︎Tonality tuning fits on his preferred curve (warm bass, inoffensive treble, neutral mid)
▶︎Possible business incentives of potential future collaboration with Kiwi Ears. Well at least Cadenza isn’t going to depreciate his HBB brand, not a bad IEM, so there will be a good monetary motivations. (I’m not indicating he is being bribed by Kiwi Ears. It’s most likely his voluntary hype)

Same business incentive applies to Crinacle’s latest ranking list. I see some “unusual” positive/negative biased scores that could be rooted from his own collaborations motivations. Not many, but countable few of them.

From professional ethics standpoint, these conflicts of interests are not good ingredients for their reviews. As one human being it is hard to completely separate personal interest with unbiased reviews. In business world, the professional firm providing “business consulting” shall be separated from the professional firm conducting objective audits.

That’s what I see from HBB/Crinacle’s once-purely-personal review has been transformed to somewhat “95% of them sounds fair, but some questions remained” one. That 5% is a bit phony, as they are not “review amateurs” that can mistakenly assess the score with more than 10% of margin of errors in the actual performance. The positive/negative bias is beyond margin of errors, which makes me wonder if there are any intentional biases are involved.

I’m not implying
“Don’t believe Reviewer’s score who does —constant—collaborations/consultations “

Just take it with a gain of salt.
Noting that there maybe monetary/intangible motivations and incentives behind self-proclaimed unbiased review.

Then apply subjective adjectives to “potential positive/negative biases” of their review product, to estimate the realistic result. This is called “Stress Test” technical analysis. Apply stress to potentially biased dataset, salvage recap result.

Back to Cadenza, it can be used as daily IEM to watch TV shows on tablet. A good dynamic theater like sound reproduction. Technically is just average. If not a bit rough textured detail articulation and mushy bass.

Recap of Cadenza:
Not bad. Not a game changer. If you own good $50-class single DD, it’s not worth to buy. If not, it’s a fair offer. But there will be better choice, like Tripowin’s Lea that could be found as low as $23 vs Cadenza’s $35.

Yea your closing word, it’s not bad if you don’t have $50 good IEM. Is basically one sentence summary of cadenza. Definitely not “sub $50 king” as hyped. This is my final conclusion after tip rolls, and 100hrs of burn in to Cadenza.

Attention calling for ongoing trend of “frequent collab reviewer”.

cadenza hit HBB’s top sub 50 ranking list based on:
▶︎Tonality tuning fits on his preferred curve (warm bass, inoffensive treble, neutral mid)
▶︎Possible business incentives of potential future collaboration with Kiwi Ears. Well at least Cadenza isn’t going to depreciate his HBB brand, not a bad IEM, so there will be a good monetary motivations. (I’m not indicating he is being bribed by Kiwi Ears. It’s most likely his voluntary hype)

Same business incentive applies to Crinacle’s latest ranking list. I see some “unusual” positive/negative biased scores that could be rooted from his own collaborations motivations. Not many, but countable few of them.

From professional ethics standpoint, these conflicts of interests are not good ingredients for their reviews. As one human being it is hard to completely separate personal interest with unbiased reviews. In business world, the professional firm providing “business consulting” shall be separated from the professional firm conducting objective audits.

That’s what I see from HBB/Crinacle’s once-purely-personal review has been transformed to somewhat “95% of them sounds fair, but some questions remained” one. That 5% is a bit phony, as they are not “review amateurs” that can mistakenly assess the score with more than 10% of margin of errors in the actual performance. The positive/negative bias is beyond margin of errors, which makes me wonder if there are any intentional biases are involved.

I’m not implying
“Don’t believe Reviewer’s score who does —constant—collaborations/consultations “

Just take it with a gain of salt.
Noting that there maybe monetary/intangible motivations and incentives behind self-proclaimed unbiased review.

Then apply subjective adjectives to “potential positive/negative biases” of their review product, to estimate the realistic result. This is called “Stress Test” technical analysis. Apply stress to potentially biased dataset, salvage recap result.

Back to Cadenza, it can be used as daily IEM to watch TV shows on tablet. A good dynamic theater like sound reproduction. Technically is just average. If not a bit rough textured detail articulation and mushy bass.

Recap of Cadenza:
Not bad. Not a game changer. If you own good $50-class single DD, it’s not worth to buy. If not, it’s a fair offer. But there will be better choice, like Tripowin’s Lea that could be found as low as $23 vs Cadenza’s $35.

I tend to agree with much of this, but as far as recc'ing it as a unspectacular DD under $50? Money is precious, so if you're gonna pick up a daily beater with good techs, I'd just recc an older IEM like the Zero Audio Tenore, which is $30.00 on sale now and has very good technicalities and sound. There are others as well to recc, and just leave the Cadenza in the heap pile of Pokemon that are not worth the time or effort compared to new or old. NEXT!

Btw, HBB recc'd the VE Bonus as one of the best budget IEM's, if not the best, and that turned out to be a less than thrilling turd, so he's often WRONG.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

I can ask for you if we can consider making an XL version.

That would be excellent. I'd buy multiple packs.

 

[Leonarfd]

I can ask for you if we can consider making an XL version.

All of us with dumbo ears would love XL

 

[Guipnox]

ISN D10, a fun and quite impressive sound. Alot of sub bass and mid bass. Only tried it for a short while, impressed.

This also depends how much bass you are looking for.

Can also go the more neutral way and EQ in some bass, and chose one of the best IEM's under 100$.

Very interesting, Leonarfd.
Seems like a good choice for me.
I'm gonna read more about them.
Thanks for the suggestion.