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Feb 10, 2021 at 8:20 AM Post #54,976 of 106,539
That's what I'm planning to do, now. But for this year, I want to invest in desktop sources.

Desktop sources for IEMs or general HP/IEM? An inexpensive desktop source for both is the Drop THX AAA 789. It works quite nicely. With three gain settings and a 3.5 mm output, what more could you ask for for $300. Using mine to breakin IEMs at the moment.
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Feb 10, 2021 at 8:31 AM Post #54,978 of 106,539
Desktop sources for IEMs or general HP/IEM? An inexpensive desktop source for both is the Drop THX AAA 789. It works quite nicely. With three gain settings and a 3.5 mm output, what more could you ask for for $300. Using mine to breakin IEMs at the moment.
General purpose for headphones and IEMs. Right now my desktop system consists of Aune S6 and Feliks Audio Echo, and neither of them works well with IEMs, so I want a more universal amp or dac/amp. The xDuoo XA-10 currently looks interesting to me, but I can't find any information about its output impedance.
 
Feb 10, 2021 at 8:48 AM Post #54,979 of 106,539
Here's a better link to the Amin Bhatia track:
 
Feb 10, 2021 at 4:06 PM Post #54,980 of 106,539
Feb 10, 2021 at 5:09 PM Post #54,981 of 106,539
So are they $40.00 or $1,000? That's a big spread there! lol
 
Feb 10, 2021 at 8:08 PM Post #54,982 of 106,539
So are they $40.00 or $1,000? That's a big spread there! lol

I think the $1000 was just a placeholder thingy while waiting for stock to come in. Seems it is confirmed at $40 USD on hifigo (but it was quickly sold out LOL). Pretty good pricing considering it purportedly contains a knowles driver inside.

But of course, driver type or brand or even driver count isn't as important as tuning and implementation, I mean Campfire Solaris uses Bellsings and they charge a grand for it (well their engineers must recognize that they can get adequate performance from said Bellsings).
 
Feb 10, 2021 at 8:25 PM Post #54,983 of 106,539
So this is interesting. Veedix Oasis 5BA Hybrid Hifi Monitor Music Musician Audiophile Aluminum Alloy MMCX Earphones Kill Xelento IE800S SE846 Helios|Earphones| - AliExpress
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Oasis parameter:
One side adopts five moving iron
Three frequency division scheme, three acoustic holes
Conductor: 1.2m detachable single crystal copper silver plated wire (MMCX interface)
Impedance: 7 Ω
Sensitivity: 125dB SPL / MW
Distortion: < 1%
Influence range: 16 ~ 28kHz
Noise reduction capacity: 26dB
Earphone plug: 3.5mm
Brand: veedix


A VEEDIX Yes called a VEEDIX. Lol. Where have I seen this design before. Hmm and using 5BAs. Interesting. Oh wait

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You know your making some waves when Chi fi copies everything about the design and call it a VEEDIX!
 
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Feb 10, 2021 at 8:29 PM Post #54,984 of 106,539
So this is interesting. Veedix Oasis 5BA Hybrid Hifi Monitor Music Musician Audiophile Aluminum Alloy MMCX Earphones Kill Xelento IE800S SE846 Helios|Earphones| - AliExpress



Oasis parameter:
One side adopts five moving iron
Three frequency division scheme, three acoustic holes
Conductor: 1.2m detachable single crystal copper silver plated wire (MMCX interface)
Impedance: 7 Ω
Sensitivity: 125dB SPL / MW
Distortion: < 1%
Influence range: 16 ~ 28kHz
Noise reduction capacity: 26dB
Earphone plug: 3.5mm
Brand: veedix


A VEEDIX Yes called a VEEDIX. Lol. Where have I seen this design before. Hmm and using 5BAs. Interesting. Oh wait


You know your making some waves when Chi fi copies everything about the design and call it a VEEDIX!

Haha actually a few years back, KZ ZS5 and ZS6 had already had copied this campfire design:

ZS5.jpg

Zs6.PNG



Reverse engineering?
 
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Feb 10, 2021 at 8:35 PM Post #54,985 of 106,539
ya but this new VEEDIX is charging the same amount it would actually cost to get a AndromedaS if it was still being made today. Thats the difference. Who in their right mind is gonna pay $1K for a no name brand that is blatantly copying Campfire Audios design.

There are some fake AndromedaS on aliexpress and Solaris as well that I seen. I bet that Veedix Oasis it is called was a reverse engineered copy of the Andromedas.

At 1K that thing better sound like a flagship is all I am saying. Could sound good who knows.
 
Feb 10, 2021 at 8:36 PM Post #54,986 of 106,539
So this is interesting. Veedix Oasis 5BA Hybrid Hifi Monitor Music Musician Audiophile Aluminum Alloy MMCX Earphones Kill Xelento IE800S SE846 Helios|Earphones| - AliExpress
1613006439854.png

1613006662214.png
Oasis parameter:
One side adopts five moving iron
Three frequency division scheme, three acoustic holes
Conductor: 1.2m detachable single crystal copper silver plated wire (MMCX interface)
Impedance: 7 Ω
Sensitivity: 125dB SPL / MW
Distortion: < 1%
Influence range: 16 ~ 28kHz
Noise reduction capacity: 26dB
Earphone plug: 3.5mm
Brand: veedix


A VEEDIX Yes called a VEEDIX. Lol. Where have I seen this design before. Hmm and using 5BAs. Interesting. Oh wait

1613006601589.png
You know your making some waves when Chi fi copies everything about the design and call it a VEEDIX!
7 Ω is outside of the reasonable specs of almost all sources, so the hiss and source/cable-dependence guaranteed!
 
Feb 10, 2021 at 9:28 PM Post #54,987 of 106,539
Haha actually a few years back, KZ ZS5 and ZS6 had already had copied this campfire design:

ZS5.jpg
Zs6.PNG


Reverse engineering?

These were crap. Some of the most disappointing orders i've ever been a part of. If it's reverse engineering of CA, then CA sucks. lol
 
Feb 10, 2021 at 10:10 PM Post #54,988 of 106,539
These were crap. Some of the most disappointing orders i've ever been a part of. If it's reverse engineering of CA, then CA sucks. lol

I haven't tried the ZS5, but my ZS6 was very shrill in the treble. I could only use it with foam tips to tame the treble. But I read that KZ later went on to do a revised tuning of the ZS6 and stealth released it. So the later versions apparently ain't so shouty, but the issue is some lay consumers won't know which version they got.
 
Feb 11, 2021 at 12:28 AM Post #54,989 of 106,539
These were crap. Some of the most disappointing orders i've ever been a part of. If it's reverse engineering of CA, then CA sucks. lol
the KZs do aim the CA sound and do somewhat have a similar signature, but you can definitely hear the difference in SQ between them
 
Feb 11, 2021 at 1:45 AM Post #54,990 of 106,539
I haven't tried the ZS5, but my ZS6 was very shrill in the treble. I could only use it with foam tips to tame the treble. But I read that KZ later went on to do a revised tuning of the ZS6 and stealth released it. So the later versions apparently ain't so shouty, but the issue is some lay consumers won't know which version they got.
Zs6 was too hot in the treble and the ZS5 lacked detail retrieval and the highs were also shouty, but the big disappointment for me was the lack of technicalities for a multi-driver hybrid.
 

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