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Dec 6, 2020 at 9:22 PM Post #52,396 of 100,467
I gave the BL-03 another shot and compared to my SSR it seems vieled in the mids, especially upper mids, lacking resolution and detail, and having a tiny soundstage with far less imaging, definitely getting an SSP over a bl05s, I can't bring myself to enjoy the BL03 after growing to love my SSP so much, mids, imaging and soundstage are a huge deal to me.

I'm curious what would be a real substantial upgrade from the SSR/SSP, given the starfields, having heard them in person, aren't seemingly much better at all.
Totally ruled out the tape and tape pro for the scooped mids, the nm2+ seems like a direct upgrade, but how much better is it?
 
Dec 6, 2020 at 11:38 PM Post #52,397 of 100,467
I gave the BL-03 another shot and compared to my SSR it seems vieled in the mids, especially upper mids, lacking resolution and detail, and having a tiny soundstage with far less imaging, definitely getting an SSP over a bl05s, I can't bring myself to enjoy the BL03 after growing to love my SSP so much, mids, imaging and soundstage are a huge deal to me.

I'm curious what would be a real substantial upgrade from the SSR/SSP, given the starfields, having heard them in person, aren't seemingly much better at all.
Totally ruled out the tape and tape pro for the scooped mids, the nm2+ seems like a direct upgrade, but how much better is it?
Between my BL-03's warm and my KSC75's bright signature i prefer the former usually since bright signatures are a significantly more intense listen to me.

Edit: Although to my understanding in strictly technical performance the SSR/P matches the Etymotic ER2... While being even more upper mid focused than the ER2?
 
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Dec 7, 2020 at 12:41 AM Post #52,398 of 100,467
I'm surprised that my Sony MZ R50 fired up right away, once I found the AC adapter; it was sitting in a drawer for more than 15 yrs. The internal battery is dead, but that's not a big deal, as their one failing is they would skip, if jostled.


Oh the memories, I had that one. Mine had to get repaired multiple times and then it got replaced by the half plastic version that came out just as mp3 files hit the scene.
 
Dec 7, 2020 at 12:52 AM Post #52,399 of 100,467
Between my BL-03's warm and my KSC75's bright signature i prefer the former usually since bright signatures are a significantly more intense listen to me.

Edit: Although to my understanding in strictly technical performance the SSR/P matches the Etymotic ER2... While being even more upper mid focused than the ER2?
unfortunately for me I'm addicted to the SSR's huge stage, imaging, the blons feel like a gigantic downgrade going back to them, though I'm also a lover of the ksc75 soo, my taste is bright I guess lol.
 
Dec 7, 2020 at 2:06 AM Post #52,400 of 100,467
Between my BL-03's warm and my KSC75's bright signature i prefer the former usually since bright signatures are a significantly more intense listen to me.

Edit: Although to my understanding in strictly technical performance the SSR/P matches the Etymotic ER2... While being even more upper mid focused than the ER2?

Perhaps the SSR is a tad sharp in the upper-mids especially for high-volume listeners, but the SSP is much more balanced. It offers the very same level of technicalities as its sibling while offering a really tight and textured bass that doesn't bleed into the mids, which makes it the last word in sub-$100 IEMs for me.
 
Dec 7, 2020 at 9:02 PM Post #52,401 of 100,467
I'm curious what would be a real substantial upgrade from the SSR/SSP, given the starfields, having heard them in person, aren't seemingly much better at all.
Totally ruled out the tape and tape pro for the scooped mids, the nm2+ seems like a direct upgrade, but how much better is it?
I’ve not yet heard the SSR or SSP, but I can say that the NM2+ definitely has the biggest soundstage and best imaging of any single DD IEM that I have heard to date. It is even better than many hybrid and all-BA multi-driver IEMs that I’ve heard.
 
Dec 7, 2020 at 10:34 PM Post #52,402 of 100,467
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Dec 7, 2020 at 10:36 PM Post #52,403 of 100,467
I have the Open Heart Resin, the Black Bat and the Tiandirenhe TD06. They have much the same shell, but the Black Bat and Tiandirenhe have similarities in sound, despite the Black Bat having a Graphene Driver and the Tiandirenhe having a Bio Driver (allegedly). Both the Black Bat and Tiandirenhe have very heavy bass. The Black Bat is deliberately tuned for big bass. The Open Heart is 'comparatively' flatter and doesn't have the bass bloat that sometimes occurs in the other two, so it's treble is more noticeable. The Open Heart is not a 'Bass Monster' and has a more balanced sound. For £23 the package of the Open Heart is extremely good value. The cable and case are quite nice. The shape is good and has a custom type of feel. I slightly prefer the Tiandirenhe TD06, at the moment, because I have burned them in a while back and they have a very nice cable too.

Hi, I am looking for a budget bass monster, and I like your impressions of the TD06

are these the same model, but with different cable type?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000744006722.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001154574452.html?spm=2114.12057483.0.0.5afe30f9XIv6xa

if so, is there a preferred cable type?
 
Dec 7, 2020 at 11:06 PM Post #52,404 of 100,467
Perhaps the SSR is a tad sharp in the upper-mids especially for high-volume listeners, but the SSP is much more balanced. It offers the very same level of technicalities as its sibling while offering a really tight and textured bass that doesn't bleed into the mids, which makes it the last word in sub-$100 IEMs for me.
Dang man I thought I was done buying IEMs for a while but now I’m tempted. Probably redundant with the NM2+ though huh? Anyone heard both?
 
Dec 8, 2020 at 12:09 AM Post #52,405 of 100,467
Hi, I am looking for a budget bass monster, and I like your impressions of the TD06

are these the same model, but with different cable type?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000744006722.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001154574452.html?spm=2114.12057483.0.0.5afe30f9XIv6xa

if so, is there a preferred cable type?
The second aliexpress one with flesh coloured cable has good bass. 'Tuning mouths' are little screw ins but didn't make much difference. A well made good sounding IEM that runs well from my phone and my dap. Burns in with real bass. Back to :sleeping: now.
 
Dec 8, 2020 at 3:38 AM Post #52,406 of 100,467
Here. Frankly a very balanced, natural sound for a steal. And at the other end of your price tier ($40), the Moondrop SSP. If you're looking to buy just one thing in the sale, get the SSP. I assure you that it will provide a new dimension of detail next to the KS2 and only get better as you upgrade your source.
How does the Moondrop SSP compare to the ZM2+? Do they sound similar, according to the graph, or different? Or, is the SSP worth getting if I already have the NM2+? I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm honestly thinking of purchasing the SSP on the 12/12 sale! Yum, yum!

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Dec 8, 2020 at 10:54 AM Post #52,407 of 100,467
The second aliexpress one with flesh coloured cable has good bass. 'Tuning mouths' are little screw ins but didn't make much difference. A well made good sounding IEM that runs well from my phone and my dap. Burns in with real bass. Back to :sleeping: now.

I have various types of KZ cables (2 pin straight and 2 pin angled), can I buy the IEM only without cable and save a few bucks?

forgot to ask, but how would the bass of TD06 compare to a KZ ZS7?
 
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Dec 8, 2020 at 11:14 AM Post #52,409 of 100,467
I have various types of KZ cables (2 pin straight and 2 pin angled), can I buy the IEM only without cable and save a few bucks?

forgot to ask, but how would the bass compare to a KZ ZS7?
You can buy the IEM on it's own. I went through my Ali receipts and the IEM, on its own, no cable, is £15.87. You can look on their page. I have no idea about the KZ ZS7, I have never ever listened to them.
 
Dec 8, 2020 at 11:25 AM Post #52,410 of 100,467
How does the Moondrop SSP compare to the ZM2+? Do they sound similar, according to the graph, or different? Or, is the SSP worth getting if I already have the NM2+? I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm honestly thinking of purchasing the SSP on the 12/12 sale! Yum, yum!

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While I have not heard the NM2+ myself, I do feel that if you already have the NM2+, then the SSP might be a tad redundant. From my perspective, the SSP offers a mid-fi signature at approximately 25% of the asking price of the NM2+. That's good for my wallet; hence my enthusiasm :)

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