Feb 26, 2025 at 9:56 AM Post #145,771 of 151,627
Ugh. I know. Kiwi Ears came out of the gates with some excellent visual designs, but their more recent shell designs look… pretty dang terrible.
I'm right there with you. Both the Aether and Airoso look pretty ugly to me.
Lucky day today! I ordered this yellow XINHS cable and it got here in the 19th of this month. Well today, I get a tracking notification that it’s out for delivery… I’m like nope. Glitch in the matrix. Well wouldn’t you know, a SECOND copy of this exact cable arrived today! I have no idea how it happened but I’ll roll with it haha.
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Free cable! Nothing wrong with that. I like the look of this one quite a bit 💛
Likewise! Meeting the peeps is more exciting than trying out the gear!
Really hope I can attend at least one day this year! Looking forward to catching up with friends I met last year and meeting new ones face to face.
New Letshuoer planar?! Letshuoer, please make these a bigger/more ergonomic shape and size to the S12 and my dollars are yours, I am begging you!!! I love my S12 ‘24 so much but it’s time is up in my collection due to the fit, same as the OG.
Agree! The S12 shape is a bit troublesome for me but not as bad as the S08. Going by conventional wisdom, this new S16 will likely be more expensive than the S15. But let's just hope it has better aestetics 😅
LOL sorry sorry, I felt like I was going to ruffle a few feathers with my DCE impressions… I probably just need some more with it. I don’t think that’ll happen anytime soon though, so what I have will have to do!

The Maven II is a phenomenal set, thank you for putting those on my map. I would Have maybe skipped over those if you and a few others didn’t put me on to those. Loved their sound and loved their design even more.
I have yet to test the DCE but I have a feeling my impressions might mirror your own. There's a lot of good dongles out there, though I haven't heard a vast majority of them. The Kensei still lives rent free in my head and thats probably what I'd buy if I had the $$$.
lolol no feathers ruffled at all, sources are picky anyway, whether it be to transducers or ears. For me, i just like having near desktop quality on the go! I def recommend a longer demo if possible but we all know how rare times like that are!

The Maven II is.... real good. i don't wanna say too much before my review but there is a reason i am planning an offloading of gear... I probably should do a longer impressions post first tho.
Just offload that stuff straight to my mailbox bro 😁 (and write it off as a charity donation)

Juzear is designing a new IEM in collaboration with Zeos. They have four shell panels prototypes. Which one do you prefer?

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I like numbers 1 and 2.
I gotta go with #2. I really like when there's 2 different shell colors. I know Dunu does that with some of their SA6 models.
Green FTW!!



I got the AFUL Polarnight coming in for review, so that should be fun. I bought those two earbuds recently, and the JZ32 is actually a pretty fun bud, and the TRN Seahorse was an abysmal piece of ****, so hopefully AFUL comes strong in the earbud sector and delivers an enjoyable listening experience?


With that incoming, I need to finish my review of the Kbear KB02. I guess I'll start work on it after my work shift? Daily trio disruption!! lol Sneak peek teaser : It's my new favorite sub $50.00 budget IEM, surpassing the Libra X, Bunny, and the Aurora Ultra. It's that good.


Dethonray Clarinet has arrived in California! So good chance, unless it gets bottlenecked in L.A., it could land by Friday? Stoked!


@o0genesis0o Stealing is never acceptable in any situation, but it does say something about the Cantor, that out of all those IEMs at the show, someone chose to steal it! I'm sure nobody looked to steal the CCA Hydro, TRN Orca, or Simgot EA1000 from any table?! Wait...were any of those there?! :laughing: 🤣


The more time I spend with the Juzear 81T, the more I feel it's extremely underrated and looked over due to it not being a bass boomer like the 61T. The clarity is four out of five stars, the linear balance and transparency is punching above it's price point, the shell is stunning, and there's enough bass to keep things interesting. If you haven't tried it, don't miss out. It's like a mini-Cantor with P7 bass.
Glad to see you'll be reviewing the Polar Night. I can't really wear earbuds comfortably but I know they do sound great when tuned well. Also, I like the new AI profile pic. Joining some of the others like myself. I think @Ozboyblu kicked off that little trend 😆
 
Feb 26, 2025 at 10:19 AM Post #145,772 of 151,627
Just back from some traveling. Catching up on the thread to discover some awesome new sets announced in NY. Now that I’ve ducked out of spending on any new IEMs over the past few months I actually have some cash saved up to put toward one or two of these. Probably pick up one of Crin’s launch sets, but I’ll wait for more feedback before deciding which. And thank the lord Crin knows visual design better than most. Sharp, classy, understated shells.


Ugh. I know. Kiwi Ears came out of the gates with some excellent visual designs, but their more recent shell designs look… pretty dang terrible.
Aether seems like a nightmare to small ears too…
 
Feb 26, 2025 at 10:20 AM Post #145,773 of 151,627
Problem is dc elite isnt sound like fiio even say something about percentage better ok but they not sound alike its diferent sound signature.In elite is some touch from astell sr 25 lightnes less dark and more openes.
 
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Feb 26, 2025 at 10:29 AM Post #145,774 of 151,627
Just saw on Twitter that someone stole the demo Cantor from AFUL's table at Canjam NY.
What a f*cking tool. If caught, that knob should be banned from all future CanJams and have their Head-fi account canceled. Oh, and prosecuted for theft. No questions asked.
Sometimes, explicit hyperbole is useful, but overuse will only confuse readers and potentially mislead them. I also try to minimize its presence in my writing.
Excessive use of hyperbole may please manufacturers, but it screws your readers. You'll lose your credibility faster than a horny cougar divorcee loses her clothes with the hot pool boy if everything is seashells and balloons all the time. It's no different than a parent who yells all the time; the impact of their shouting diminishes into ignorance. (I know this from experience! :))
LOL sorry sorry, I felt like I was going to ruffle a few feathers with my DCE impressions… I probably just need some more with it. I don’t think that’ll happen anytime soon though, so what I have will have to do!
Dom, don't EVER apologize for your opinions. You're a knowledgeable, rational cat who isn't some click-seeing contrarian. You know your stuff. Sometimes popular and well-regarded stuff doesn't jive with us. The AFUL P5+2 is an example for both of us. I didn't like it -- no f*cks given. Nearly everyone else does -- COOL!
Juzear is designing a new IEM in collaboration with Zeos. They have four shell panels prototypes. Which one do you prefer?


I like numbers 1 and 2.
What difference does it make? They're just going to slap the hideous Z logo all over it like his recent headphone collab, anyways.
I'm right there with you. Both the Aether and Airoso look pretty ugly to me.
Agreed. The Aether is NOT attractive in the slightest. Has a 1960s East Berlin look to it. Gorgeous. :)

But the Artti T10 is ugly as sin, and it's my favorite IEM under $100 original MSRP. So, there!
 
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Feb 26, 2025 at 10:29 AM Post #145,775 of 151,627
Hmmm having desktop quality on the go… that’s a great way to describe it. I guess I’m just not willing to make the compromises to make that happen. The BTR17 is not only half The price, but its lighter and Thinner and has BT for wireless listening making portable use a lot easier and less cumbersome. The DCE while beautiful and stunningly built, is still a wired dongle that’s pretty big and bulky. Yes, it does sound better, but to my ears it was like a 5 to maybe 10% improvement…. Did I mention it’s double the price as the BTR17?!

Anyways, I think a longer listening session with a proper A/B is ideal before I close the book on the DCE but unless someone is touring theirs, I most likely won’t get another shot at it.

Oooooo I’ll be on the lookout for your classifieds listing then 😎
I need to try the BTR17! It’s just so great there are so many options cause if I’m looking to be on the go I don’t really want to use Bluetooth I guess, would rather have direct line in to my DAP. (I also have iOS so Bluetooth kinda sucks lol)
Just offload that stuff straight to my mailbox bro 😁 (and write it off as a charity donation)
speaking of I need to send you things… but no donations 😂😂
 
Feb 26, 2025 at 10:34 AM Post #145,776 of 151,627
I need to try the BTR17! It’s just so great there are so many options cause if I’m looking to be on the go I don’t really want to use Bluetooth I guess, would rather have direct line in to my DAP. (I also have iOS so Bluetooth kinda sucks lol)

speaking of I need to send you things… but no donations 😂😂
Well i know fiio house and if will be like latest m11 i know i will dont like it that much. To me is still big diference between fiio and dc elite in things that are important to me. It is setback for sure.
 
Feb 26, 2025 at 10:52 AM Post #145,777 of 151,627
New shiny - quite literally
EarAcoustic Audio Silver Angel Limited

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Yes I know, no one ever saw or heard of these, except very recently from @PeacockObscura, whose enthusiasm rubbed off onto me, so I contacted these guys. Soon this unit was arranged and a week later, it's here!

I chose the other available shell finish compared to peacock's unit and it's a flashy stunner ...

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First impressions are mixed, but let's burn them in.
Also, instructions were unclear, am I doing this right at all?

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Feb 26, 2025 at 11:13 AM Post #145,778 of 151,627
Dom, don't EVER apologize for your opinions. You're a knowledgeable, rational cat who isn't some click-seeing contrarian. You know your stuff. Sometimes popular and well-regarded stuff doesn't jive with us. The AFUL P5+2 is an example for both of us. I didn't like it -- no f*cks given. Nearly everyone else does -- COOL!
You're 100% right, I tend to be an overly apologetic person. I guess it's just the part of me that wants to be friendly with everyone lol I sometimes apologize when it's not necessary for the fear of being misunderstood, but like I said, you're 100% right. I was partly joking if I'm honest haha @theintention knows he's my dude and I'm just breaking balls half the time.
I need to try the BTR17! It’s just so great there are so many options cause if I’m looking to be on the go I don’t really want to use Bluetooth I guess, would rather have direct line in to my DAP. (I also have iOS so Bluetooth kinda sucks lol)
If I had a dap, I would be in the same boat as you, brother. I'm always out and about, relying on cell service for my streaming, I'm not a local music owner at all, I only have a few albums of my favorite artists because I wanted to support them, ya know? But I love the act of discovery when it comes to music.

Besides the gear, discovering new music/artists is my favorite thing about the hobby, that's for sure.
 
Feb 26, 2025 at 11:14 AM Post #145,779 of 151,627


Tony suggests that Pirole Resin($40) sounds like Moritz Dragon($629).
In the comments section below, someone mentioned you can get Pirole Resin as cheap as $26 without cable.
Can $26 David trade blows with $629 Goliath? I'm glad to know! :L3000:

The name of the IEM:
"But the suprise was the Pirole Audio Store P-D1002 all resin single DD.... impressive!"
I've tried to find it but no luck. This is a comment by Akros at CHIFI HOPES and DRIAMS on f-ook.
He did mention that he would add info about it to the other video 'The Reviews: Leteciel Shark, Zhulinniao Z3, Aurora Ultra, Tiandirenhe TD19, Coony CC1, Pirole Audio'
 
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Feb 26, 2025 at 11:41 AM Post #145,781 of 151,627
I messed around with my Delci that I had laying in the closet unused. Had them for sale for some time but I realized that they gotten ugly after I (ab)used them at work.
Yeah they are old news but well I tore out the standard metal filter and also the paper/cotton filter underneath. Measured them without filter and both with 200 mesh and 500 mesh (the 500 with hole mod). The 500 mesh still took away more of the peaks then I expected, since the difference between no filter and 200 was so little. Half tempted to try the 300 mesh I have but I am lazy today :disappointed_relieved:
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Black is standard Delci
Blue is Delci with just a proper metal filter
Red with 200 mesh
Green with 500 mesh and hole mod

To me it is interesting that the 500 mesh seems to boost the frequency range till 700-800 kHz.
Now on the 500 mesh they sound good to my amateur ears but still not sure if this is enough for the Delci to make it back in my rotation. I listen too little and have the more expensive and better IEMs but it is fun to mess around and maybe it helps someone even if graphs aren't everything.
 
Feb 26, 2025 at 11:47 AM Post #145,782 of 151,627
The name of the IEM:
"But the suprise was the Pirole Audio Store P-D1002 all resin single DD.... impressive!"
I've tried to find it but no luck. This is a comment by Acros at CHIFI HOPES and DRIAMS on f-ook.
He did mention that he would add info about it to the other video 'The Reviews: Leteciel Shark, Zhulinniao Z3, Aurora Ultra, Tiandirenhe TD19, Coony CC1, Pirole Audio'
I dig into Taobao and found this. I think this is the one.
 

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Feb 26, 2025 at 11:47 AM Post #145,783 of 151,627
New shiny - quite literally
EarAcoustic Audio Silver Angel Limited

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Yes I know, no one ever saw or heard of these, except very recently from @PeacockObscura, whose enthusiasm rubbed off onto me, so I contacted these guys. Soon this unit was arranged and a week later, it's here!

I chose the other available shell finish compared to peacock's unit and it's a flashy stunner ...

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First impressions are mixed, but let's burn them in.
Also, instructions were unclear, am I doing this right at all?

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Do you not notice a sense of veil?
 
Feb 26, 2025 at 12:04 PM Post #145,784 of 151,627
For these kind of thing, i kinda missed hifri dissection,

He could go, "dude, this $90 iem have the same driver with a famous $499 iem.

Let me open both iem to show you that it is the same driver"

He's actually back and doing teardowns again. I really like him, nice guy and he adds lots of value to the iem community.He did SM4 lately.
 
Feb 26, 2025 at 12:44 PM Post #145,785 of 151,627
Mail call

I've received my Shanling ME600 a week ago and I would like to give some impressions. While everybody is talking about the new kid on the block I seem to be stuck in the past somehow haha. First was Shanling MG800 released years ago and now the ME600 released last year in 2024. But I believe these iems are still very relevant nowadays.

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Bought them from Shenzhenaudio during the Chinese New Year for $249 which is a great price considering they were $320 at launch.

Now this is not my first encounter with ME600, in fact last year I was eyeing this iem, especially after I saw this post by Jazzzy: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the-discovery-thread.586909/post-18260667

And @ToneDeafMonk video about ME600 that seal the deal for me after watching it 100 times... Too bad I bought it later than I was should have. Truth is I kind of brush it off last year. I was upset with my H60 because it didn't fit well with my small ears. In retrospectation I realize I made a huge mistake not buying the ME600 then because If I think about how much money I've wasted to get to this just now... "Wait, what about your precious MG800, was that also a mistake?" you'll ask me, to which I say yes and no. I'll get to that later.

Anyways, the iem themselves look very premium to my eyes and surprinsingly they fit well with every eartip I've tried. About comfort I'm still in the process of trying different eartips to see which is better but I've settled on Softears UC for now. I'll say that the comfort is better than MG800, even though ME600 are bigger. But I guess they have a slightly longer nozzle and at a good angle for my ears. They weigh 6.25 g per shell and the nozzle diameter is 5.8mm, just how I like it.

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ME600 vs MG800 size comparison:
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The cable it's a very good silver plated copper with interchangeables plugs. You get 2.5mm, 3.5mm and 4.4mm and its very easy to change the connectors. Cable is MMCX but has very good quality and you don't need to bother changing it with this set.

The sound

Oh, boy! These are your wet dream if you listen to rock, heavy metal and EDM, they slam so hard. I've also listen to pop music and no complaints for me. They seem to do a good job with every genre.

This come with 3 interchangeable nozzles offering you a slightly different sound signature. I'm using the white "Clear" nozzle because I feel this give you enough uppermids and lower treble to balance the bass. With the "balanced" nozzle it was too chill and laidback for me so I needed slightly more to balance it out. I like iems with more subdued treble but I can assure you the "Clear" nozzle don't make the treble bright at all, it just adds a little bit of sparkle to the uppermids and it still sounds warm and laidback, basically a Dynaquatro that fits better and it's easier to drive.

Bass

Simply extraordinary, both the sub-bass rumble and the mid-bass punch. How Shanling managed to tune these two 6mm DDs is magical and they don't overpower the rest of the frequencies at all! I've been listening to Oasis, The Verve, Ride and they sound sublime. Nothing negative to say about the bass. Well done Shanling!

Mids
Very clear, smooth, just like @ToneDeafMonk said. I was afraid they could be recessed but not all. Both male and female vocals sound so good, they are not too laidback or too forward in the mix. They sit just perfectly in the centre.

Also he said in his ME600 video that you could listen to this at any volume and I can confirm he's on the money. This is also another good thing that I apreciate about this set. You can listen at any volume and still being able to hear everything clearly.

Treble
Laidback with all nozzles and not the star of the show, even with the "Clear" nozzle that has the most treble it's still a little laidback and smooth just how I like it. I absolutely recommend this for treble sensible folks.

Soundstage it's above average with good witdh, depth and Instrument separation is very good as well.

I'm using it with my KA17 with D.Mode ON, a very good pairing since KA17 it's neutral with tinge of brightness and ME600 is a warm laidback, perfect synergy!

Timbre is very natural, you would not believe this is a hybrid. There's absolutely not BA timbre or sibilance on this set. Once again, well done Shanling!

Some comparison with other iems like Dynaquatro, H60 and MG800 (I don't own DQ and H60 anymore but I still have my notes and memory)

With Dynaquatro from memory the bass is equally as good as the ME600. The lower mids on DQ were a little recessed to my ears and uppermids were a little forward but with ME600 both lower mids and upper mids are more balanced.
The treble on both is subdued and smooth so no complain for me.
The soundstage I think is done better on ME600.

Between both I think ME600 is the better option since it's easier to drive and more comfortable to wear. DQ is indeed cheaper at $220 vs ME600 at $276 (if you buy from Shenzhenaudio) but still the price difference isn't that big and you could get ME600 on sale at a better price like I did.

H60

There is no surprise that H60 was my dream iem. I still think about it even now. Reading jazzzy's comparison post above I have to agree the difference between them isn't that big. However excluding the bass and treble because they are equally good, the biggest difference is in the mids. H60 mids are purely sweet, creamy, they have that Penon/ISN magic that you can't ever forget, I certainly can't. The value for money is on the ME600 side vs $350 on H60. Also the comfort it's better with ME600 because of the 5.8mm nozzle vs 6.9mm nozzle on H60 and both are easier to drive. I'll say pick whatever you like cause both are worth the money.

MG800

Here we are now comparing my beloved MG800 against ME600.
Before getting on to the sound comparison I must say that I'm having fit issues with MG800. Yea, my ears are cursed or something.

When I first got my MG800 I swear I didn't have any issues with the fit but I do now. To be precise 2 months ago when I went on my first trip with them after an hour or so of listening I felt a slight discomfort in my ears and my heart sank. I thought I'll just change tips and the problem will go away and it didn't sadly. The new eartips that I receive a while ago from Rosetechnics SC liquid silicone seemed to help a little but the discomfort was still there after sometime. The discomfort wasn't as bad as with H60 because MG800 doesn't have that bulkier nozzle at 6.9mm that caused me pain but still the discomfort with MG800 was enough to not let me focus on the music for long sessions.

Why I didn't noticed this at first when I got my MG800? I guess the only logical explanation is that I was so overjoyed with the sound that I didn't want to notice, maybe cognitive dissonance or something I don't know. That's why I said I should've bought ME600 last year before buying MG800 and other iems that left my wallet empty.
I got over it now. I realize this is an expensive hobby and I made mistakes on my iem journey. Also I hate my ears, so there's that.

Anyways, let's get on with the sound comparison.

ME600 and MG800 share the same house sound, the same DNA if you will, with different tunnings. ME600 is warm laidback while MG800 is more mid-centric focused with a better treble depending on the nozzle you use.

For me the "Clear" nozzle on ME600 with the "Balanced" nozzle on MG800 came close to each other but there are differences as you would expect.

The bass

MG800 has more sub-bass focus with a very good rumble that you will feel it when listening. It's a very nice sensation that no other single DD gave me before. Mid-bass is more anemic but I feel Shanling made this decision to let the mids shine more.

ME600 on the other hand has a fairly good sub-bass rumble but not as noticeable as with MG800. Also the mid-bass punch is a lot better and pleasant on ME600.

The mids
While ME600 has a very good clean and smooth mids, the MG800 takes the cake entirely here. It has a very spacious midrange with better vocals on both male and female and instruments, they simply sound better with more clarity and air.

The treble
The ME600 with all its 3 nozzles pretty much has the same treble as the "Balanced" nozzle on MG800, very smooth and non fatigue. The only noticeable difference is with the "Clear" nozzle on MG800 which has more treble extension and might by a little fatigue in the long run.

The Soundstage
I'll give it to the MG800, it's slightly holographic than ME600, but all in all is not really a big difference for me since they both do a good job.

Timbre is very natural on both and instrument separation is also equally good.

Value for money considering MG800 is $800, but you could get it on sale at $620. Even so the value is on the ME600 side to be honest. Yes, MG800 it's an upgrade over ME600 but diminishing returns hit hard I believe.
What you get by buying MG800 is more refinement, like better sub-bass, you get better mids with better vocal clarity and more treble extension if you choose to use the "Clear" nozzle. The improvement is there but it is worth spending more money for MG800 when ME600 does a very good job as well? Eh, I believe not really and I love my MG800, it sounds fantastic. Easily end game in single DD department. It's up to you if you like to spend more money but ME600 will also not dissappoint you at all. It's very sad that shanling iems get under the radar because they give you great value for the price like great cables, great selection of eartips and very good sound.

Initially I wanted to get Softears Volume S but after watching @ToneDeafMonk video on Softears comparing it with ME600, I know I made the right choice. There's also a new review on youtube by BangsAudioReviews praising ME600 so it's clear as day that Shanling made something special.

Thank you for reading this far!
 
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