The discovery thread!
Oct 17, 2023 at 9:04 AM Post #87,406 of 103,519
People are making it real hard to avoid the temptation to pick up a Chopin or a Nova. I'll probably eventually break and get something, but I'm trying to hold out for a sale. Might not focus on new stuff, but the short list of things I'm interested in is getting long and is too full of stuff similar to things I already have.

Chopin, Nova, Quintet, Phoenix Call, Neo5... Not that I really NEED anything...
 
Oct 17, 2023 at 9:06 AM Post #87,407 of 103,519
Apparantly the H6 came out over a year ago in Tingker’s own store. But no reviews there.

I tried having a look through Twitter but there's only a couple of impressions from Japanese (I think) users. The gist of it seems to be that there's a good low-end, soundstage seems to be good(?), female vocals are close(?), and resolution might not be the best.

Not the best information since it's run through google translate, but better than nothing.

Edit:
Squig on the shop page
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Oct 17, 2023 at 9:45 AM Post #87,408 of 103,519
Oct 17, 2023 at 10:31 AM Post #87,409 of 103,519
Oct 17, 2023 at 10:37 AM Post #87,410 of 103,519
Someone's review on the Geek Wold GK200 (Screenshot translated by google). Shopee link

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Oct 17, 2023 at 11:29 AM Post #87,411 of 103,519
Here is something new. Been getting to know these. The new Penon Dome. Cross post from the Penon thread.
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Penon names IEMs based on their inherent sound character/ design and today I have the dubious task of introducing a new minty fresh design from our friends at Penon in the form of a new hybrid.
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Some notable Penon offerings with similar names; Sphere, Orb, Globe and now DOME. Before you ask, this new IEM consists of 3 premium BAs and a 10mm dynamic handling the bass duties. There is a new dual Sonion BA that handles the mid bands on the DOME vs a single Sonion BA for mids on the Globe. As you guys can guess, the tuning philosophy is pure Penon house sound but this time around it is about improving what was established.
  • Resin shell, comfortable to wear.
  • Handmade, solid and more durable.
  • 2 Sonion BA for medium frequency
  • 1 Knowles BA for high frequency
  • 1 10mm PET diaphragm for low frequency
  • Impedance: 19ohm
  • Sensitivity: 107dB
  • Frequency response range :20-20kHz
  • Passive noise reduction: 26dB

The Globe was and is a gateway IEM. Meaning it is the one mid priced hybrid that gives the prospective buyer a classic example of the Penons tunging angle with a rich smooth organic musical sound.

The DOME this time around gives an uptick in technicalities from the base Globe sound signature. Penon tunes with a bit of a w tuning/ mostly a balancing philosophy. Incorporating a well balanced treble, slightly forward mids character with a punchy physical low end to round off their sound. The balancing this time around has been fine tuned and now has better instrument separation, imaging, resulting in better inner details and dimensional qualities from what was already established from the Globe and the Orbs. The classic is reborn in the Dome and now we have an ideal, extremely musical hybrid in the new Dome.
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What is clearly different about the Dome this time around is that the new Dome is using a new dual Sonion BA for its mids presentation and a separate Knowles BA for its trebles; each set of BAs has its own sound bore. The Prior Globes was using a single sound bore for the Sonion Mids BA and the treble BA with another bore for its bass.

The Domes having an extra sound bore, with each sound bore by default separating the treble notes from the mids notes. Giving a better sense of separation between the two regions. Having the set of dual BAs now focusing 100% of its sound on the mid bands and the treble BA focusing 100% of its sound on the high notes cleanly separated by the two sound channels. This gives more room to breathe for each region without fighting each other for your sound space, giving the Dome a more defined and better technical experience. I can tell the Dome was designed to do one better for Penons line of hybrid IEM and imo this is as close as you're going to get for a Volt level of musicality without the use of ESTs.
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Treble gets a bit of a retune with better articulation, better extension with touch more air and weight for its presence. This is the area that gets a retune that works better for modern genres. Penon treble tunings never aggravate or are they excessive in the trebles for the sake of false resolution. Trebles this time around gets better balancing and sounds about even in emphasis with the mids and bass character of the new Dome. New treble tuning results in better clarity with an increase of treble transparency which sounds more articulate and airy, a bit more substantial vs the prior offerings of both the Orbs and the Globes.

Mids are what Penon sound is all about and the mids on the Dome is where the real difference from their prior Orbs or Globes the Dome separates itself from. It is the area that is the clear upgrade. Not only better technicals but now very versatile for all types of music simply because it has the right amount of upper mid presence, excellent proper full bodied note weight, slightly warm rich lower full bodied mids character with an easy to listen to layering, very good details in space from all levels of the mids presence. These are now knocking on the doors of the highly regarded mids character for the Volts as a result. It is the mids that clearly gets the higher end treatment for the Dome. Lastly you get a potent 10mm PET bass dynamic handling the bass.

Bass from the new 10mm dynamic is a mix of mid bass to sub bass emphasized for musical listening. Showing the right/ healthy amount of impact and presence. Penon does not tune anything with a weak bass end and here we get a nice capable dynamic handling the bass. Bass is physical and digs deep when called for. Is not as speedy as the rest of the sound, this is more normal for hybrids than not. However, it's got it where it counts. A punchy impactful accurate low end with good tightness, texture and rumble to sub bass notes. Texture at the given price point is very good and true to a vented dynamic presentation. It's got a real bass woofer handling the low end that does bass genres justice. This is the one area that I never felt was weak or a 2nd thought from the Globe design and for the most part the bass end is about equal in performance to the Globe but this is certainly not a bad thing.

Bass is emphasized for musicality, Dome is a classy full bored type of immersive sound experience so no boomstick overstepping bass here, tight and well behaved, never the type to step out of bounds the bass end here clearly holds its own when it comes to a proper bass decay, impact and bass definition. PET dynamics can handle bass with no struggle and it shows in the new Dome.
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I would say the sound profile leans more bold in how it sounds, a richer full bodied natural tonal character mixed with very excellent upgraded technical abilities, a good splash of dynamism all in a spacious sound field and you get the Dome. This is the type of IEM you get when your sources sound a bit sterile, a bit too dry or neutral. But then if you listen to the Dome with a nicely musical sounding source, you literally get a healthy double dose of richness and dynamism that is like a double layered chocolate cake. = AKA guilty pleasure listening? YES indeed!

An upgrade from the Globes? Some may prefer these over the recent 10th anniversary. This my friends is what's next with Penon audio. If you guys have never heard a Penon made IEM or are curious of their newer take on the classic Penon sound profile. The Dome is what to go with. The new Dome will be the next IEM on the pages of Penon audio. They are easy to drive and have the ideal mix of the reasons why we get into IEMs in the first place. Extremely musical, a rich tonal character, accurate timbre, superb separation, a natural well balanced presentation yet bold at the same time. Great for all types of music genres with imaging and details a plenty. Dimensional, spacious and punchy with the right amount of physicality for its bass end. It is more than just an upgrade on the prior Penon offerings. It is an entirely new IEM from Penon Audio. The Penon DOME is what's next!
 
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Oct 17, 2023 at 11:49 AM Post #87,412 of 103,519
Here is something new. Been getting to know these. The new Penon Dome. Cross post from the Penon thread.
1697556093083.png

Penon names IEMs based on their inherent sound character/ design and today I have the dubious task of introducing a new minty fresh design from our friends at Penon in the form of a new hybrid.
1697556144498.png
Some notable Penon offerings with similar names; Sphere, Orb, Globe and now DOME. Before you ask, this new IEM consists of 3 premium BAs and a 10mm dynamic handling the bass duties. There is a new dual Sonion BA that handles the mid bands on the DOME vs a single Sonion BA for mids on the Globe. As you guys can guess, the tuning philosophy is pure Penon house sound but this time around it is about improving what was established.
  • Resin shell, comfortable to wear.
  • Handmade, solid and more durable.
  • 2 Sonion BA for medium frequency
  • 1 Knowles BA for high frequency
  • 1 10mm PET diaphragm for low frequency
  • Impedance: 19ohm
  • Sensitivity: 107dB
  • Frequency response range :20-20kHz
  • Passive noise reduction: 26dB

The Globe was and is a gateway IEM. Meaning it is the one mid priced hybrid that gives the prospective buyer a classic example of the Penons tunging angle with a rich smooth organic musical sound.

The DOME this time around gives an uptick in technicalities from the base Globe sound signature. Penon tunes with a bit of a w tuning/ mostly a balancing philosophy. Incorporating a well balanced treble, slightly forward mids character with a punchy physical low end to round off their sound. The balancing this time around has been fine tuned and now has better instrument separation, imaging, resulting in better inner details and dimensional qualities from what was already established from the Globe and the Orbs. The classic is reborn in the Dome and now we have an ideal, extremely musical hybrid in the new Dome.
1697556189002.png
What is clearly different about the Dome this time around is that the new Dome is using a new dual Sonion BA for its mids presentation and a separate Knowles BA for its trebles; each set of BAs has its own sound bore. The Prior Globes was using a single sound bore for the Sonion Mids BA and the treble BA with another bore for its bass.

The Domes having an extra sound bore, with each sound bore by default separating the treble notes from the mids notes. Giving a better sense of separation between the two regions. Having the set of dual BAs now focusing 100% of its sound on the mid bands and the treble BA focusing 100% of its sound on the high notes cleanly separated by the two sound channels. This gives more room to breathe for each region without fighting each other for your sound space, giving the Dome a more defined and better technical experience. I can tell the Dome was designed to do one better for Penons line of hybrid IEM and imo this is as close as you're going to get for a Volt level of musicality without the use of ESTs.
1697556414696.png
Treble gets a bit of a retune with better articulation, better extension with touch more air and weight for its presence. This is the area that gets a retune that works better for modern genres. Penon treble tunings never aggravate or are they excessive in the trebles for the sake of false resolution. Trebles this time around gets better balancing and sounds about even in emphasis with the mids and bass character of the new Dome. New treble tuning results in better clarity with an increase of treble transparency which sounds more articulate and airy, a bit more substantial vs the prior offerings of both the Orbs and the Globes.

Mids are what Penon sound is all about and the mids on the Dome is where the real difference from their prior Orbs or Globes the Dome separates itself from. It is the area that is the clear upgrade. Not only better technicals but now very versatile for all types of music simply because it has the right amount of upper mid presence, excellent proper full bodied note weight, slightly warm rich lower full bodied mids character with an easy to listen to layering, very good details in space from all levels of the mids presence. These are now knocking on the doors of the highly regarded mids character for the Volts as a result. It is the mids that clearly gets the higher end treatment for the Dome. Lastly you get a potent 10mm PET bass dynamic handling the bass.

Bass from the new 10mm dynamic is a mix of mid bass to sub bass emphasized for musical listening. Showing the right/ healthy amount of impact and presence. Penon does not tune anything with a weak bass end and here we get a nice capable dynamic handling the bass. Bass is physical and digs deep when called for. Is not as speedy as the rest of the sound, this is more normal for hybrids than not. However, it's got it where it counts. A punchy impactful accurate low end with good tightness, texture and rumble to sub bass notes. Texture at the given price point is very good and true to a vented dynamic presentation. It's got a real bass woofer handling the low end that does bass genres justice. This is the one area that I never felt was weak or a 2nd thought from the Globe design and for the most part the bass end is about equal in performance to the Globe but this is certainly not a bad thing.

Bass is emphasized for musicality, Dome is a classy full bored type of immersive sound experience so no boomstick overstepping bass here, tight and well behaved, never the type to step out of bounds the bass end here clearly holds its own when it comes to a proper bass decay, impact and bass definition. PET dynamics can handle bass with no struggle and it shows in the new Dome.
1697556215172.png
I would say the sound profile leans more bold in how it sounds, a richer full bodied natural tonal character mixed with very excellent upgraded technical abilities, a good splash of dynamism all in a spacious sound field and you get the Dome. This is the type of IEM you get when your sources sound a bit sterile, a bit too dry or neutral. But then if you listen to the Dome with a nicely musical sounding source, you literally get a healthy double dose of richness and dynamism that is like a double layered chocolate cake. = AKA guilty pleasure listening? YES indeed!

An upgrade from the Globes? Some may prefer these over the recent 10th anniversary. This my friends is what's next with Penon audio. If you guys have never heard a Penon made IEM or are curious of their newer take on the classic Penon sound profile. The Dome is what to go with. The new Dome will be the next IEM on the pages of Penon audio. They are easy to drive and have the ideal mix of the reasons why we get into IEMs in the first place. Extremely musical, a rich tonal character, accurate timbre, superb separation, a natural well balanced presentation yet bold at the same time. Great for all types of music genres with imaging and details a plenty. Dimensional, spacious and punchy with the right amount of physicality for its bass end. It is more than just an upgrade on the prior Penon offerings. It is an entirely new IEM from Penon Audio. The Penon DOME is what's next!
Any idea of price? I just recently got the Serial and now I'm a Penon simp. I need more from them lol.
 
Oct 17, 2023 at 1:47 PM Post #87,414 of 103,519
Here is something new. Been getting to know these. The new Penon Dome. Cross post from the Penon thread.
1697556093083.png

Penon names IEMs based on their inherent sound character/ design and today I have the dubious task of introducing a new minty fresh design from our friends at Penon in the form of a new hybrid.
1697556144498.png
Some notable Penon offerings with similar names; Sphere, Orb, Globe and now DOME. Before you ask, this new IEM consists of 3 premium BAs and a 10mm dynamic handling the bass duties. There is a new dual Sonion BA that handles the mid bands on the DOME vs a single Sonion BA for mids on the Globe. As you guys can guess, the tuning philosophy is pure Penon house sound but this time around it is about improving what was established.
  • Resin shell, comfortable to wear.
  • Handmade, solid and more durable.
  • 2 Sonion BA for medium frequency
  • 1 Knowles BA for high frequency
  • 1 10mm PET diaphragm for low frequency
  • Impedance: 19ohm
  • Sensitivity: 107dB
  • Frequency response range :20-20kHz
  • Passive noise reduction: 26dB

The Globe was and is a gateway IEM. Meaning it is the one mid priced hybrid that gives the prospective buyer a classic example of the Penons tunging angle with a rich smooth organic musical sound.

The DOME this time around gives an uptick in technicalities from the base Globe sound signature. Penon tunes with a bit of a w tuning/ mostly a balancing philosophy. Incorporating a well balanced treble, slightly forward mids character with a punchy physical low end to round off their sound. The balancing this time around has been fine tuned and now has better instrument separation, imaging, resulting in better inner details and dimensional qualities from what was already established from the Globe and the Orbs. The classic is reborn in the Dome and now we have an ideal, extremely musical hybrid in the new Dome.
1697556189002.png
What is clearly different about the Dome this time around is that the new Dome is using a new dual Sonion BA for its mids presentation and a separate Knowles BA for its trebles; each set of BAs has its own sound bore. The Prior Globes was using a single sound bore for the Sonion Mids BA and the treble BA with another bore for its bass.

The Domes having an extra sound bore, with each sound bore by default separating the treble notes from the mids notes. Giving a better sense of separation between the two regions. Having the set of dual BAs now focusing 100% of its sound on the mid bands and the treble BA focusing 100% of its sound on the high notes cleanly separated by the two sound channels. This gives more room to breathe for each region without fighting each other for your sound space, giving the Dome a more defined and better technical experience. I can tell the Dome was designed to do one better for Penons line of hybrid IEM and imo this is as close as you're going to get for a Volt level of musicality without the use of ESTs.
1697556414696.png
Treble gets a bit of a retune with better articulation, better extension with touch more air and weight for its presence. This is the area that gets a retune that works better for modern genres. Penon treble tunings never aggravate or are they excessive in the trebles for the sake of false resolution. Trebles this time around gets better balancing and sounds about even in emphasis with the mids and bass character of the new Dome. New treble tuning results in better clarity with an increase of treble transparency which sounds more articulate and airy, a bit more substantial vs the prior offerings of both the Orbs and the Globes.

Mids are what Penon sound is all about and the mids on the Dome is where the real difference from their prior Orbs or Globes the Dome separates itself from. It is the area that is the clear upgrade. Not only better technicals but now very versatile for all types of music simply because it has the right amount of upper mid presence, excellent proper full bodied note weight, slightly warm rich lower full bodied mids character with an easy to listen to layering, very good details in space from all levels of the mids presence. These are now knocking on the doors of the highly regarded mids character for the Volts as a result. It is the mids that clearly gets the higher end treatment for the Dome. Lastly you get a potent 10mm PET bass dynamic handling the bass.

Bass from the new 10mm dynamic is a mix of mid bass to sub bass emphasized for musical listening. Showing the right/ healthy amount of impact and presence. Penon does not tune anything with a weak bass end and here we get a nice capable dynamic handling the bass. Bass is physical and digs deep when called for. Is not as speedy as the rest of the sound, this is more normal for hybrids than not. However, it's got it where it counts. A punchy impactful accurate low end with good tightness, texture and rumble to sub bass notes. Texture at the given price point is very good and true to a vented dynamic presentation. It's got a real bass woofer handling the low end that does bass genres justice. This is the one area that I never felt was weak or a 2nd thought from the Globe design and for the most part the bass end is about equal in performance to the Globe but this is certainly not a bad thing.

Bass is emphasized for musicality, Dome is a classy full bored type of immersive sound experience so no boomstick overstepping bass here, tight and well behaved, never the type to step out of bounds the bass end here clearly holds its own when it comes to a proper bass decay, impact and bass definition. PET dynamics can handle bass with no struggle and it shows in the new Dome.
1697556215172.png
I would say the sound profile leans more bold in how it sounds, a richer full bodied natural tonal character mixed with very excellent upgraded technical abilities, a good splash of dynamism all in a spacious sound field and you get the Dome. This is the type of IEM you get when your sources sound a bit sterile, a bit too dry or neutral. But then if you listen to the Dome with a nicely musical sounding source, you literally get a healthy double dose of richness and dynamism that is like a double layered chocolate cake. = AKA guilty pleasure listening? YES indeed!

An upgrade from the Globes? Some may prefer these over the recent 10th anniversary. This my friends is what's next with Penon audio. If you guys have never heard a Penon made IEM or are curious of their newer take on the classic Penon sound profile. The Dome is what to go with. The new Dome will be the next IEM on the pages of Penon audio. They are easy to drive and have the ideal mix of the reasons why we get into IEMs in the first place. Extremely musical, a rich tonal character, accurate timbre, superb separation, a natural well balanced presentation yet bold at the same time. Great for all types of music genres with imaging and details a plenty. Dimensional, spacious and punchy with the right amount of physicality for its bass end. It is more than just an upgrade on the prior Penon offerings. It is an entirely new IEM from Penon Audio. The Penon DOME is what's next!
Is the website working for you?
When I try to access it, it comes back with this...
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Oct 17, 2023 at 1:58 PM Post #87,416 of 103,519
Neo 5 vs EST50?
also does anyone have a comparison of the Tea 2 / Neo 5?

I want to love Penon stuff but I just do not like their stuff aesthetically… one day they will get me but until then, the ISN side of Penon has my eye next.
 
Oct 17, 2023 at 2:06 PM Post #87,417 of 103,519
Oct 17, 2023 at 2:46 PM Post #87,418 of 103,519
no*SOUND presenta…
bit.ly/nosoundhifireviews (full reviews here)

IVIPQ 12

🔈 Driver Setup. 2DD – 6BA
✨Sen & Imp. 109dB/mW | 16Ω
💰 Price. 220€
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DETAILS ON A BUDGET

RATING A

Let's face it, I didn't expect this performance for such a low price; a 2DD, accompanied by 6BA at this price... at least is a surprise. But when you forget about the disastrous packaging, and focus on the capsule and its performance, it really is a great piece of headset.

It has an increditble detail performance... I would like the bass to be a little elevated. Sometimes frequencies in the upper area feel “annoying”, but it is only in certain recordings and at some moments. For some time now I have been advocating presentations with elongated bass, accompanied by some emphasis on the midbass, like my beloved FA7s, and this V12 is a perfect mix between the fullBA from FiiO and the bass of the FH7s, but controlled. The ability to separate layers and elements, the texture it provides, along with the amount of detail is impressive.

Year 2023, Chi-fi still making impressive headphones at more affordable prices. So if you have the possibility of adding a “custom” cable for this incredible price, IVIPQ has my attention in the coming months.
Get me out of the dark chi-fi pit, please.

✅Incredible dynamics and speed
✅Impressive cable
✅Surgical in definition…
🟡…clumsy (at times) in presentation

🟡Somewhat thin female voices
⭕Low-level packaging
⭕Suffers from bad recordings or analytical sources

DETALLITOS BARATITOS

VALORACIÓN A

Vaya por delante que no esperaba este rendimiento por un precio tan contenido; un doble dinámico, acompañado por 6BA a este precio… sorprende. Pero cuando te olvidas del desastroso packaging, y te centras en la cápsula y el rendimiento de la misma, es de verdad un pedazo de auricular.
Tiene detalles, como que el bajo me gustaria un poco más elevado, y que en algunos momentos tiene frecuencias en la zona alta que se sienten “molestas”, pero es solo en determinadas grabaciones y algunos momentos. Hace algún tiempo que defiendo las presentaciones con bajos alargados, acompañados de cierto énfasis en el midbass, como mi amado FA7s, y este V12 es una mezcla perfecta entre este y el bajo del FH7s, pero controlado.
La capacidad de separación de capas y elementos, la textura que entrega, junto con la cantidad de detalles es impresionante. Año 2023, y cada vez hacen auriculares más impresionantes a precios más contenidos, si además le sumas la posibilidad de añadirle un cable “custom”, IVIPQ tiene mi atención en los próximos meses.
Sacadme del pozo del chifi-oscuro, por favor.

✅ Dinámica y velocidad increíbles
✅ Cable impresionante
✅ Quirúrgico en la definición...

🟡 ...torpe (por momentos) en la presentación
🟡 Voces femeninas algo finas

⭕ Packaging de bajo nivel
⭕ Sufre con grabaciones malas o fuentes analiticas


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Oct 17, 2023 at 4:07 PM Post #87,420 of 103,519
New arrivals!
Quite surprised by the clarity of the ensemble and the articulateness of the notes. It is very fast, defined and dynamic.
I thought the capsules were larger, but they are a very ergonomic medium size.
The cable is very similar to the Letshuoer S12 Pro, but more manageable and less stiff. I think I have time to enjoy them.

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