[InvisibleInk]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004870675404.html

 

[Carpet]

Is th LZ A4 Pro at $129 a good deal? That's what we are looking at with the NiceHCK Lucky Bag reveal on 11.11.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004870675404.html

Well it was hard, but I managed to track down some info. Not sure how reliable the site is but there were 3 reviews!

Some Review Site

 

[baskingshark]

Is th LZ A4 Pro at $129 a good deal? That's what we are looking at with the NiceHCK Lucky Bag reveal on 11.11.

General rule of thumb - if a CHIFI IEM isn't talked about 2 weeks after launch (after the initial hype has died down), then the answer is as clear as day hahaha.

 

[DBaldock9]

Is th LZ A4 Pro at $129 a good deal? That's what we are looking at with the NiceHCK Lucky Bag reveal on 11.11.

Last year on the 11.11 Sale, I got a discount price at $209 for the LZ A4 Pro, including the extra updated nozzle.
I'm not crazy about the switch to 2-Pin connectors (prefer MMCX), but I really do like how these earphones sound - and use them regularly during my lunch break at the local restaurant.

 

[InvisibleInk]

Well it was hard, but I managed to track down some info. Not sure how reliable the site is but there were 3 reviews!

Some Review Site

Two favorable out of three isn't bad.

 

[InvisibleInk]

Last year on the 11.11 Sale, I got a discount price at $209 for the LZ A4 Pro, including the extra updated nozzle.
I'm not crazy about the switch to 2-Pin connectors (prefer MMCX), but I really do like how these earphones sound - and use them regularly during my lunch break at the local restaurant.

Good to know. What combination of nozzles and vents did you settle on?

 

[DBaldock9]

Good to know. What combination of nozzles and vents did you settle on?

I normally use the Gold Nozzle / Red Back.

 

[WAON303]

Is th LZ A4 Pro at $129 a good deal? That's what we are looking at with the NiceHCK Lucky Bag reveal on 11.11.

A4 Pro is an irrelevant IEM from what I've seen.

Crinacle called it weird sounding, RikudouGoku hates it, FR looks very wonky.

I guess go for it if you enjoy a very peculiar IEM flavor?

 

[WAON303]

CCZ Warrior

10 mm PET diaphragm DD + 3 BA




https://www.facebook.com/keephifiof...Tk3hwZM7vYCwRCaiYyKEWqB2REDpH7QrmPvhdJ1qQouHl
https://www.facebook.com/keephifiof...kTN6Su7jCuYiNXqdZyFSgiMGuUXsQ3y9CRgEaVuVwVpVl

Who's willing to bet that someone is gonna open a set to search for fake or incorrect drivers lol.

I'm sure someone remembers about the CCZ Plume drama on FB, someone opened a set and found cheap bellsing drivers instead of custom BAs.

 

[BigGearHunter]

Who's willing to bet that someone is gonna open a set to search for fake or incorrect drivers lol.

I'm sure someone remembers about the CCZ Plume drama on FB, someone opened a set and found cheap bellsing drivers instead of custom BAs.

KZ/CCA lost all credibility for me when they pulled that crap, they're bottom-tier as far as I'm concerned

 

[wdelta06]

Last year on the 11.11 Sale, I got a discount price at $209 for the LZ A4 Pro, including the extra updated nozzle.
I'm not crazy about the switch to 2-Pin connectors (prefer MMCX), but I really do like how these earphones sound - and use them regularly during my lunch break at the local restaurant.

Same... I picked up the A7 on a sale like this. It actually helped me refine my musical preferences thanks to the multiple swappable nozzles & tuning switch.

 

[baskingshark]

Who's willing to bet that someone is gonna open a set to search for fake or incorrect drivers lol.

I'm sure someone remembers about the CCZ Plume drama on FB, someone opened a set and found cheap bellsing drivers instead of custom BAs.

Here it is! Should be called CCZ PLUMMET instead of plume.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2386473901653225/posts/2689516551348957/

Oh and fake drivers or not, the CCZ Plume sounds bad BTW. Generic V shaped, big bloated undefined bass, with the DD driver being much slower than the BAs (incoherency). Technically sub-par for the price too.

There's many other tales of fake driver claims in CHIFI-land, we have the KZ sagas, and BGVP had a fake beryllium scandal: https://www.facebook.com/BGVPaudio/...4X8p8AaWfj7PZcKq1QKn4dQBKQceckugzDGYSTDnXSNYl

Well even Campfire and JH use Bellsings in their TOTL models:
https://www.businesswire.com/news/h...s-in-Trade-Secret-Theft-Case-Against-Bellsing
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/cxqlje/knowles_files_claim_with_us_trade_commission_to/

Perhaps it is just that nobody has the guts (or money) to open the shell of a kilobuck IEM to verify the drivers inside are correctly soldered and that the materials/brands used are legit. Who has the finances to routinely destroy a 1K IEM for the sake of science?

I know some will say, so what if the TOTL IEM uses cheap drivers, as long as it sounds good? But well, that is like paying for a Ferrari and discovering the engine is a Cherry QQ engine internally. Yes you will get from point A to point B with it, but if they can cheat with one thing, can they be cutting corners in other areas like QC, safety etc? How much profit has been fleeced off lay-consumers by using these cheaper drivers?

I think there are surely many more exaggerated or fake claims with regards to drivers in IEMs, it is just that nobody has spectrometers or equipment to objectively quantify it, to call out the manufacturers. Those marketing claims of beryllium drivers or uranium or pixie dust drivers, can consumers prove it 100%?

Thankfully, with more people having measuring rigs and opening shells, I hope this will serve as a warning to potential scammy manufacturers to remain honest when it comes to certain marketing claims. Everyone wants to stand out from the cut-throat competition with bigger and bolder claims, but I think in the long run, consumers will respect manufacturers who keep their word. If all else fails, and the manufacturer cannot differentiate itself from the dime a dozen Harman tuned budget IEMs, using a waifu anime girl on the packaging is a sure-fire way to success hahaha!

KZ/CCA lost all credibility for me when they pulled that crap, they're bottom-tier as far as I'm concerned

Actually I think CCZ are not related to KZ/CCA. Yeah the ton of alphabet soup brand names and IEMs in CHIFI-Land is a bit confusing.

But yeah KZ had their own scandals in the past.

 

[Carpet]

Who's willing to bet that someone is gonna open a set to search for fake or incorrect drivers lol.

I'm sure someone remembers about the CCZ Plume drama on FB, someone opened a set and found cheap bellsing drivers instead of custom BAs.

AFAIK "custom BAs" are usually Bellsing drivers, if it's a custom Knowles driver they will go out of their way to casually include reference to who made it!

 

[Redcarmoose]

I know I have said this a couple time, but boy I admire how you can keep being enthusiastic about IEMs in this price bracket. I would wait for your impressions, particularly the new KZ. I think they have improved the tuning.

Wait, you mean you haven’t figured out I’m crazy yet?

 

[jmwant]

iBasso releases DC03 Pro, with volume keys, three level gain and eq functions.