Why? They use the same driver and the No. 3 is older and most likely won't be better if not tuned a bit worse actually. TFZ takes older models and reworks later on for cheaper so pricier does not mean it will be better. No. 3 is not as good looking, might still a little more $$$ and not be better so is that worth it or a waste of $$$. I might think they made the Live 3 less bassy so might be a better sound signature that appeals to more unless you think the Live 3 is a "V" sig with basshead amount of bass.
Edit: I just saw BGGAR did a review on them. Reading the comments a couple like the Live 3 better than No.3. Also might be wrong as the No. 3 might be more "V" by having more treble and not just a bit more bass. Seems they have a little less bass but also less treble brightness for the Live 3 if that impression holds true. But I think my other thought holds out that if you spend more you should get something better not the same driver that you can EQ what you have slightly to pretty well match.
That's me too. So I'm hoping the A7 are my final buy for metal/rock. i'm looking for the same thing you are, so if the NM2+ doesn't provide that now, i'm glad I didn't pull the trigger. Thanks. I'm looking at a used Sony XBA-Z5 atm. We'll see how that works out?
Why? They use the same driver and the No. 3 is older and most likely won't be better if not tuned a bit worse actually. TFZ takes older models and reworks later on for cheaper so pricier does not mean it will be better. No. 3 is not as good looking, might still a little more $$$ and not be better so is that worth it or a waste of $$$. I might think they made the Live 3 less bassy so might be a better sound signature that appeals to more unless you think the Live 3 is a "V" sig with basshead amount of bass.
Edit: I just saw BGGAR did a review on them. Reading the comments a couple like the Live 3 better than No.3. Also might be wrong as the No. 3 might be more "V" by having more treble and not just a bit more bass. Seems they have a little less bass but also less treble brightness for the Live 3 if that impression holds true. But I think my other thought holds out that if you spend more you should get something better not the same driver that you can EQ what you have slightly to pretty well match.
I did not know that! Thought the No 3 would be a bit of an upgrade, but if that's the case I'm good with the Live 3, will be saving $$$ for something else in future I just read both Live 3 and No 3 use a '3rd gen driver' so it's probably the same.
The Live 3 has enough bass and sub-bass for my taste TBH, it's sweet but not overwhelming and it doesn't choke the mids.
The TFZ No. 3 19th special edition on Aliexpress is cheaper than the regular TFZ NO. 3. I asked 2 sellers and they said they are the same internally and for tuning, just the shell is different. So you might wanna consider the No. 3 19th special edition instead as it is cheaper. As per usual TFZ's confusing nomenclature, I dunno why it is a 19th special edition instead of a 18th.
Anyway, with regards to TFZ No. 3, I'm a basshead and I feel it is a one trick pony that just excels at bass forward music. Bass extension and quantity is copious, sounds really good with EDM and stuff, but the bass has a midbass bleed and is not tight. What made me sell away the TFZ No. 3 is that the upper mids get very hot with boosted volumes (Fletcher munson curve), so it is not a set to be used at high volumes, even though one wants to pump up the bass for more bassheadness. Technicalities are good for a single DD, but soundstage is narrow and timbre is not the best for a single DD set.
Honestly, I feel there's better single DD sets out there for the same price or thereabouts. I think even an older TFZ like the TFZ Tequila1 (frequently on sale at half the price of No. 3) has better tonality, timbre and soundstage (though worse technicalities) than the No. 3. Well YMMV as always.
If it follows the normal previous Reecho it will look better than it sounds. Sound will be okay but not gonna be anything special. Unless they "awaken" on the SQ front there will be better options. For sure a wait and see model.
If it follows the normal previous Reecho it will look better than it sounds. Sound will be okay but not gonna be anything special. Unless they "awaken" on the SQ front there will be better options. For sure a wait and see model.
8-core cable with a working chin-slider. But the ear hooks are very strong and worst of all the connector isnt straight so when connected to a source it is a bit bent (fortunately it works). I got 2 cables and both have that same problem, guess TRN QC is pretty bad. Oh and the divider on the picture above (the one with the TRN logo) is actually as scratched/unclean as it looks.....
Cant recommend it due to that and that we got cables like the Kbear Limpid and the Tri Through that are cheaper and of higher quality.
If it follows the normal previous Reecho it will look better than it sounds. Sound will be okay but not gonna be anything special. Unless they "awaken" on the SQ front there will be better options. For sure a wait and see model.
TRN T3 (4.4mm version)
(top = Kbear limpid, middle = TRN T3, bottom = Tri Through)
Measurement: 0.19ohms
8-core cable with a working chin-slider. But the ear hooks are very strong and worst of all the connector isnt straight so when connected to a source it is a bit bent (fortunately it works). I got 2 cables and both have that same problem, guess TRN QC is pretty bad. Oh and the divider on the picture above (the one with the TRN logo) is actually as scratched/unclean as it looks.....
Cant recommend it due to that and that we got cables like the Kbear Limpid and the Tri Through that are cheaper and of higher quality.
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I just read both Live 3 and No 3 use a '3rd gen driver' so it's probably the same.
