Oct 28, 2024 at 3:50 AM Post #1,891 of 1,945
Had a listen to Red Serratus today for the first time in months, as I've finally got my home office back to be able to listen in peace with minimal external noise.

And I also received this fantastic amp the other day, and I just had to hear Serratus on tubes...

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I just love the added sense of space and stage depth this amp gives Serratus, really an excellent all-round performer with pinpoint accuracy and detail resolution. It was always pretty good with the solid state Jotunheim2, but this is really a next-level kind of sound.

Once I bought the ZMF Caldera a few months ago, getting an amp like this was almost inevitable. The fact it plays so well with @tgx78 buds is icing on the cake!
 
Oct 28, 2024 at 4:07 AM Post #1,892 of 1,945
Had a listen to Red Serratus today for the first time in months, as I've finally got my home office back to be able to listen in peace with minimal external noise.

And I also received this fantastic amp the other day, and I just had to hear Serratus on tubes...

IMG_5166.jpg


I just love the added sense of space and stage depth this amp gives Serratus, really an excellent all-round performer with pinpoint accuracy and detail resolution. It was always pretty good with the solid state Jotunheim2, but this is really a next-level kind of sound.

Once I bought the ZMF Caldera a few months ago, getting an amp like this was almost inevitable. The fact it plays so well with @tgx78 buds is icing on the cake!
Congratulations! That's one sexy amp!
 
Nov 16, 2024 at 5:29 PM Post #1,895 of 1,945
Serratus (300ohm PET) vs Serratus 2 (130ohm N55 driver) Impressions

Thanks to @AsciiJC for the opportunity to hear the S2

Serratus 2 Resin Bell 4.4mm (stock foams)
Serratus OG MX500 (stock foams)

Lotoo P6K 4.4mm high gain

Music: Jazz, classical, world music

Tonality - similar colouration overall

Bass
S1 has more subbass extension, midbass is much the same quantity, S2 has a cleaner procession into lower midrange

Midrange
S2 has a more forward, fuller midrange overall and with greater presence in the upper mids, S1 midrange is set further back and can feel slightly hollow, less intimate and less intense; Female vocals on S2 are more forward with better isolation and intelligibility than S1. On this resin bell version of S2 there is some mild shout at higher volume, S1 doesn’t share this issue.

Treble
S1 has a hints of metallic sharpness that cut through on some tracks making the treble feel unbalanced; S2 treble is similarly emphasised but without the sharp peak. S2 may have slightly more ‘air’.

Technicalities
Resolution - S2 brings out more texture and microdetail, I don’t feel S1 is actually that resolving, it just relies on the treble emphasis to make it seem so.

Soundstage - S1 has a perceptibly wider stage than S2 but this may just be because the midrange isn’t as emphasised. The S2 is more dimensional in staging, feeling more open on more axes, with more positional information between L-R channels within the headspace

Imaging - S2 images more definitively in space

Verdict (YMMV)
S2 takes the win on tonality and technicalities. Importantly, the S2 also takes the win on timbre, its tonality lends itself to revealing more detail and filling fundamental notes better. Thankfully the treble peak is gone but treble definition and detail is still retained. The custom S2 driver is performing technically better in many regards, it just lacks the very low end extension of the PET300. The S2 may be considered less of an all-rounder versus the original due having less subbass and a more intense midrange, however it performs far better on instrumental music than the original. The only shortcoming with the S2 is some shout/stridency in the upper mids that is volume dependent and is perceptible in some vocal performances (if you listen at moderate levels you will probably not have this issue).

N.B. this version is the resin bell version and the sound may not be an accurate reflection of the metal MX500 version

EDIT: corrected an error in the treble section- it was meant to read that S1 has a metallic sharpness in the treble, not S2.
 
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Nov 22, 2024 at 2:38 AM Post #1,897 of 1,945
Does anyone here has the new type of SS bell from TGX? I'm currently using the Totem, good sound but bad fit, so i'm curious about the new model of the shells
 
Nov 22, 2024 at 8:03 AM Post #1,898 of 1,945
Nov 24, 2024 at 12:31 AM Post #1,900 of 1,945
New to the earbud game…

I recently got a pair of Airpods 4 and realized I hate IEMs and actually love the way buds fit. So that made me realize there are still high end earbud makers and found this thread.

I’m moving abroad next year and wanted to build a high end but portable setup and thinking earbuds may be the way to go.

I was originally in the market for ZMF Bokeh and a small amp but maybe you guys can recommend me a TGX set that can be my TOTL setup?

I want something sort of neutral but with some bass punch. My daily pair of headphones right now is an HD800 with an RME ADI-2. Mostly listen to EDM and hip hop.

If I need an amp please let me know which smaller amp(s) you’d recommend or if I can power these right out of a macbook/iphone.

Budget is $1k for amp and earbuds.
 
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Nov 24, 2024 at 12:49 AM Post #1,901 of 1,945
Has Jim ever had black friday sales in the past? Been eyeing the DS Black Sand, upgrading from my OG serratus. Seems I missed out on a pair on classifieds by about a week :cry:
He used to, but not sure about his totl sets. He even used to email discount codes to people who signed up via his website... But haven't seen that in a while.

I recommend messaging him directly on here or on Instagram (tgxear). If you're a repeat customer, he may cut you a deal!
 
Nov 24, 2024 at 12:59 AM Post #1,902 of 1,945
New to the earbud game…

I recently got a pair of Airpods 4 and realized I hate IEMs and actually love the way buds fit. So that made me realize there are still high end earbud makers and found this thread.

I’m moving abroad next year and wanted to build a high end but portable setup and thinking earbuds may be the way to go.

I was originally in the market for ZMF Bokeh and a small amp but maybe you guys can recommend me a TGX set that can be my TOTL setup?

I want something sort of neutral but with some bass punch. My daily pair of headphones right now is an HD800 with an RME ADI-2. Mostly listen to EDM and hip hop.

If I need an amp please let me know which smaller amp(s) you’d recommend or if I can power these right out of a macbook/iphone.

Budget is $1k for amp and earbuds.
Hi and welcome! I gave up on headphones because they weren't comfortable - earbuds are fantastic if they fit you ok.

Before you go to a TOTL set, you should double check the shell type that suits you best. Since you've got a very healthy budget, I'd again recommend reaching out to Jim via Instagram or here and begin the sales journey. He honestly provides the best customer service and isn't going to push a set on you if he doesn't think his tuning or shells will work.

For example, if you like EDM and hip hop, you will need a lot of subbass, and that's quite difficult to achieve in earbuds. He might need to do a custom tuning for you, or he might say earbuds won't do your music justice.

In terms of a dac amp: there are some fantastic dongles out there for 200 or less. Something like Fiio KA15, KA17, ONIX Alpha XI1, ibasso DC07 Pro. Or under 400, like ibasso DC Elite, Questyle M15i
 
Nov 24, 2024 at 3:53 AM Post #1,903 of 1,945
Hi and welcome! I gave up on headphones because they weren't comfortable - earbuds are fantastic if they fit you ok.

Before you go to a TOTL set, you should double check the shell type that suits you best. Since you've got a very healthy budget, I'd again recommend reaching out to Jim via Instagram or here and begin the sales journey. He honestly provides the best customer service and isn't going to push a set on you if he doesn't think his tuning or shells will work.

For example, if you like EDM and hip hop, you will need a lot of subbass, and that's quite difficult to achieve in earbuds. He might need to do a custom tuning for you, or he might say earbuds won't do your music justice.

In terms of a dac amp: there are some fantastic dongles out there for 200 or less. Something like Fiio KA15, KA17, ONIX Alpha XI1, ibasso DC07 Pro. Or under 400, like ibasso DC Elite, Questyle M15i
Love this, thank you. Will research the individual earbuds a bit more and ping Jim as you suggested.

Maybe a dumb question, but what's the general consensus here on TOTL earbuds vs. IEMs/headphones? Can an earbud match them? I can see having no seal somewhat of an issue, but am clueless as I just learned high end earbuds are a thing 24 hours ago...
 
Nov 24, 2024 at 4:02 AM Post #1,904 of 1,945
Love this, thank you. Will research the individual earbuds a bit more and ping Jim as you suggested.

Maybe a dumb question, but what's the general consensus here on TOTL earbuds vs. IEMs/headphones? Can an earbud match them? I can see having no seal somewhat of an issue, but am clueless as I just learned high end earbuds are a thing 24 hours ago...

A well-made TOTL earbud can compete with IEMs/headphones in resolution and exceed IEMs in staging. However you will never get the same impact or bass presence of a sealed IEM. Bass on headphones is similar but again, the weight and quantity is typically more. It is still possible for me to enjoy EDM on my bassier earbuds, they aren't flat as a pancake or lifeless in the low end, they just struggle with very low subbass expression. I'd also say that in some cases, IEMs manage to offer a more distinct image than earbuds that don't layer quite as obviously but offer something more natural (similar to a headphone in this respect).

This is all in very general terms...it's incredibly hard to compare IEMs to headphones to earbuds. In fact, I feel earbuds offer a unique presentation that I prefer over IEMs and headphones. They can do wonderful things with the midrange and to overly focus on what they can't do misses what brings a lot of people to earbuds in the first place (and usually keeps them if there are no fit issues!).
 
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Nov 24, 2024 at 7:08 AM Post #1,905 of 1,945
Love this, thank you. Will research the individual earbuds a bit more and ping Jim as you suggested.

Maybe a dumb question, but what's the general consensus here on TOTL earbuds vs. IEMs/headphones? Can an earbud match them? I can see having no seal somewhat of an issue, but am clueless as I just learned high end earbuds are a thing 24 hours ago...
+1 for everything Ian said! I'll add a few more notes about the market itself:

- Earbuds market moves much more slowly than IEMs and HPs. Could be due to it being much much smaller, but also because there is really only 1 type of driver that works for now (dynamic), and a limited range of driver sizes. I actually prefer this slow pace - I feel IEMs just keep popping up for almost no reason
- Unlike the IEM market, DIYers have a strong presence and dominate the TOTL segment. TGXEAR, Rikubuds, LREY, Cypherus Audio, are just to name a few. I think this is great because these small holdings have much better customer service, and they are mostly hobbyists turned member of trade, so they know the community
- The price range for earbuds is more condensed than IEMs and HPs. You can find decent sets for <20 USD, and excellent sets for ~100, with TOTL around 250-700 USD

I like the community aspect a lot. If you have discord and you want to partake, here's an invite to the Flathead Sanctuary: https://discord.gg/4H4Y2b25

There's also our community led ranking list in my signature.
 

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