Testing audiophile claims and myths
Nov 7, 2021 at 1:23 PM Post #14,836 of 14,876

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Bias is not a small thing, and it can’t be consciously controlled. Everyone has it.
 
Nov 13, 2021 at 9:24 AM Post #14,838 of 14,876

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I have a secret method for overcoming bias. It's pretty simple, just get to the point you just do not care about the thing you are testing. Then.. care so little you can't even remember what you are testing.
 
Jan 1, 2022 at 9:18 PM Post #14,839 of 14,876

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Rubbish!
I have no biases and I can always tell the difference between my expensive oxygen free USB cable and a cheap one... except when blind testing.
Get into Kpop, you'll have many Biases 🤣.
The only biasing in my equipment better be op amp and diode related.
 
Jan 2, 2022 at 4:02 AM Post #14,840 of 14,876

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I have a secret method for overcoming bias. It's pretty simple, just get to the point you just do not care about the thing you are testing. Then.. care so little you can't even remember what you are testing.

I'm the same way. I never have any expectations.
 
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Jan 2, 2022 at 6:20 AM Post #14,843 of 14,876

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Hahaha! Satire is dangerous business, it catches up the apathetic in its net.
 
Jan 2, 2022 at 7:08 AM Post #14,844 of 14,876

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My thought going into testing new expensive gear is "this had better be good", not "this should be good".
 
Jan 2, 2022 at 9:33 AM Post #14,845 of 14,876

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Congratulations. That is expectation bias.
 
Jan 2, 2022 at 9:41 AM Post #14,846 of 14,876

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Congratulations. That is expectation bias.
I have had experiences of a candidate defying both expectation bias and louder-is-better preference only to still fade into anonymity in a volume matched blind test anyway. These are things predicting probabilities in a sighted test, not things to let you get away without a blind test by any means.
 
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Bias can either be right or wrong. It just isn’t arriving at the decision based entirely on facts. Humans are like that. We can’t help it. When we see something expensive, we immediately start thinking that it should be higher quality. It could be high, it could be low. Our mind unconsciously makes assumptions.
 
Jan 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Post #14,849 of 14,876

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You win the Dunning Kruger Award for persistent lack of self-awareness!
 
Jan 2, 2022 at 9:51 PM Post #14,850 of 14,876

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Congratulations. You're wrong.
"This had better be good" sounds every bit like an expectation against something sounding better than whatever you already have.

Regardless,
I have had experiences of a candidate defying both expectation bias and louder-is-better preference only to still fade into anonymity in a volume matched blind test anyway. These are things predicting probabilities in a sighted test, not things to let you get away without a blind test by any means.
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