[Currawong]

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By "new flagship," I thought ones like the T1 and HD800s were included.  My mistake.  
 

They were included. They were initially raved about, then began to suck when the LCD-2 came along, and now the LCD-2 sucks because the LCD-3 has arrived in town. And everything sucks because the Stax 009 exists. For $5000, you can find out if you too agree with a handful of others. If you follow the pattern, the high opinions have gone down but the price has not. So some of the $300-$500 dollar 'phones now sound like they now compete with these failing flagships. And these new Shures will compete with the best for two weeks then gradually become worse than the SRH940, which some hate, so for those folks, gradually become worse than the SRH840. You get the picture.
 

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[Bob A (SD)]

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Did I miss something? Where was the price announced?
 

The UK Shure site shows the SRH1840 @ £ 598.80
 
http://www.shure.co.uk/products/headphones/srh1840
 

 

[ac500]

Also about 4 other countries posted prices, all the equivalent of $900 +- a few dollars.

 

[Beagle]

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The UK Shure site shows the SRH1840 @ £ 598.80
 
http://www.shure.co.uk/products/headphones/srh1840
 

The UK price for the HE300 is £289 and they sell for $249.
 

 

[Beagle]

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What?  SRH840 are overhyped, overrated, and hated now?  I just bought a pair off Ebay 30 minutes ago!  Where are these reviews of SRH840 being terrible?  I was quite excited to grab a pair for $120 as I need a closed pair for work.

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[achristilaw]

 
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What?  SRH840 are overhyped, overrated, and hated now?  I just bought a pair off Ebay 30 minutes ago!  Where are these reviews of SRH840 being terrible?  I was quite excited to grab a pair for $120 as I need a closed pair for work.

Does anyone know what facetious means? Ah-Ha! Then "ha-ha-ha-ha".

 

[jude]

 
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It's not like Jude is going to write a bad review about them.  I'm not sure what you guys are so excited for. 

Someone posted a comment in response to one of the Head-Fi TV episodes that said...
 
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Is it just me or does jude practically recommend every single set of headphones he comes across?

 
...to which I responded:  That would suggest that the headphones I discuss in the videos or forums represent every headphone I come across. More headphones and other audio gear come through here than I could ever cover in the videos--*far* more. Different things motivate different people; but what motivates me to step in front of the camera more than anything is sharing my feelings about (and experiences with) products I think sound great, products that excite me.
 
Anyone who has been to my office and home knows that there is far more gear around than I'm likely ever to be able to review. FAR more.  What I do decide to talk or type about is what I listen to or use that interests me, and/or what I like or am excited about. The things I don't much care for don't usually get used enough for me to have much to say about them.
 
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I have grave reservations about them given how the presenter in the YouTube video brought to attention in the FR graph the bass, lower mids, and extended treble while conveniently ignoring that upper mid / lower treble mess.

I've spent far more time with the SRH1840 than the SRH1440, and I did see the Shure graphs you're talking about (the ones shown in Shure's Tokyo presentation).
 
Measurements vary from measurer to measurer. Other measurements that Shure might produce for other headphones (using their gear and methodology) wouldn't look like Tyll's which don't look like yours which don't look like others I've seen from other manufacturers. Some manufacturers have shared with me their measurements of their products and their measurements of their competitors' products, and they also don't look like each other's, or Tyll's, or yours and probably not Shure's.
 
In other words, it's hard (for me anyway) to take Shure's measurements, compare them to yours or Tyll's and extrapolate much. There's greater value, of course, in comparing Tyll's to Tyll's (or yours to yours) for various headphones--for me anyway. The measurement instruments may be different from measurer to measurer, as may be the environment and, of course, the methodologies.
 
That said, the SRH1840 has more treble than neutral, but doesn't sound, to my ears, the way their graphs look (with how graphs look to me being established primarily by HeadRoom's graphs and Tyll's graphs (Tyll also does HeadRoom's graphs).
 
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I think Jude just get's a kick out of watching us squirm.  It's been almost a month since the initial post, and we've reached 33 pages filled with, for the most part, meaningless bickering and wild speculation.
 
Just picture him, sitting in his comfy chair, 1840s on his head, listening to whatever genre the 1840s excel at portraying, hitting F5 on this bloody thread and just cackling......  Cackling the night away.

LOL. No, that's not it at all. There was CanJam @ RMAF, then Tokyo, then the Gift Guide, and all of that combined with the last quarter of the year and the holidays, which is always the busiest time of year for me, at work and at home--and now CES is pretty much here. Around the holiday, I took some much needed time away from computers and the web, to be with my family and friends.
 
I will say more about the SRH1840 (and maybe the SRH1440) before I leave for CES.
 
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The UK Shure site shows the SRH1840 @ £ 598.80
 
http://www.shure.co.uk/products/headphones/srh1840

 
Expect U.S. pricing to be as follows (accompanied by the existing Shure over-ear line prices for the sake of comparison):
 

1. $699 for SRH1840
2. $399 for SRH1440
3. $299 for SRH940
4. $199 for SRH840
5. $99 for SRH440
6. $59 for SRH240

 

[Rayzee]

Expected $699 vs £600? Seriously why can't European prices be similar...

 

[roma101]

Looks like 1840/1440 are in direct competion against the HE500/HE400! I'm certainly looking forward to see how they compare. Thanks for the update Jude.

 

[Satya]

Jude:
 
Thanks for the sneak peak at the prices.  $699 is certainly better than $899. 
 
Also thanks for comparing the FR graphs and the treble level - I/we/humanity hope that more detailed performance and ergonomic info is coming soon???
 
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Expect U.S. pricing to be as follows (accompanied by the existing Shure over-ear line prices for the sake of comparison):
 

1. $699 for SRH1840
2. $399 for SRH1440

 

 

[achristilaw]

Now your cooking with GAS baby! My ears are all the measurement devices I require.....$699.00 for starters with discounts (maybe) added....yup, maybe-maybe!

 

[achristilaw]

  Well Jude, you like the "on-the-go" M-80's. I found them bass heavy, midbass thick and the treble very closed in. Not particularly good for Acoustic Music, but "fun" for instruments that plug into a wall.
 
   I imagine that "flat"-er would be more appealing for me, I don't have to hide from treble artifacts and LOVE the 940!

 

[ac500]

Thanks for the update!
 
Price at $700 in the US is good to hear (for those of us in the US I guess) versus what was looking like $900. I suppose it does make some sense that Shure prices it lower in the US, especially since Shure is a US company. In any case $700 is an interesting price point, and if it sells for less in sales, then this could be very interesting price/performance... but of course this all hinges on the upcoming reviews and its actual... performance
 
Interesting that it's a bit treble leaning - maybe like the SRH940. I must say an improved comfort SRH940 is exactly what I've been looking for for months anyway
 
Can't wait to hear more about these.

 

[R-Audiohead]

1840s just might be out of reach for me.
 
No reason to love what I have any less

 

[xEcuToR]

A lot of competition for the new series of SHURE SRH headphones T70, HE400, HE500, HE5LE for the 1840s. and HD600, HD650, DT990, K701/702, HE4, HE300 for the 1440s.