@hakuzen any L bending cables you can recommend under $15? Need them for my back IEMs and I prefer L-bending ones as they help in mobility as I usually listen my musics while walking. Couldn't find good cables in budget on AliExpress. Except a BGVP cable with mic but that too was on random store.
there aren't many budget decent cables with L plug yet. i didn't keep a summary of them, and own none, so can't recommend any.
hope chinese manufacturers start to provide L plug versions of their cables.
the cable you've found looks like cable 082 of my list. a bit thin, around 350mOhms/signal. but it's under $15, so guess it's an option to consider while more L cables are deployed.
search for "angled" or "L plug/jack" in the cables thread; iirc, some head-fiers posted links to other affordable L cables time ago.
Are they worth buying? Or just pass and get the ISN ones? Seems like those were the some of the lowest resistance cables in your list.......Or am I using the data in totally the wrong way? haha
I'm looking for a 2.5 TRRS female balanced to 3.5 SE male adapter. I found a couple of offerings from known Chinese brands like FiiO, iBasso, Hidizs and VE. Are there any other products I should consider?
I'm looking for a 2.5 TRRS female balanced to 3.5 SE male adapter. I found a couple of offerings from known Chinese brands like FiiO, iBasso, Hidizs and VE. Are there any other products I should consider?
i don't know, haven't located any cable using this wire either.
hakugei seems to have interesting wires, but i can't trust in a wire with such lack of info: they only say there are 133 strands, but no info about the thickness of these strands, nor info about total equivalent gauge.
sure it will be more flexible than others having similar total thickness, because of the amount and thin diameter of the strands.
but there are also caveats: to solder litz shielded strands (let's believe that these many strands are individually enameled), you have to peel the cable and remove the litz of the contacted part before, you have to apply considerable heat and contact pressure; if the strands are extremely thin, there is a high chance to break many of them during this process.
besides, i'm getting better sound results with thicker strands (although not so flexible), even with solid core wires lately.
i also doubt it is 7N purity grade, even OCC. but can't confirm this. the wire of cable 125 also pretends to be 7N OCC (which i doubt, as well), no litz, and i like the sound i get with it, so this wire could be also good enough.
i only consider taiwan neotech up-occ wires now, either solid, multi-strand, copper or silver or mixed, litz or not litz, frozen or not.. they are the only wires i can completely vouch for, because i've tried many of them, and there is a clear difference in the sound. sure they are more expensive than this 7n occ wire (this wire could be around 22awg, i guess, and costs the same than frozen up-occ 28awg), but my choice is clear.
i don't know, haven't located any cable using this wire either.
hakugei seems to have interesting wires, but i can't trust in a wire with such lack of info: they only say there are 133 strands, but no info about the thickness of these strands, nor info about total equivalent gauge.
sure it will be more flexible than others having similar total thickness, because of the amount and thin diameter of the strands.
but there are also caveats: to solder litz shielded strands (let's believe that these many strands are individually enameled), you have to peel the cable and remove the litz of the contacted part before, you have to apply considerable heat and contact pressure; if the strands are extremely thin, there is a high chance to break many of them during this process.
besides, i'm getting better sound results with thicker strands (although not so flexible), even with solid core wires lately.
i also doubt it is 7N purity grade, even OCC. but can't confirm this. the wire of cable 125 also pretends to be 7N OCC (which i doubt, as well), no litz, and i like the sound i get with it, so this wire could be also good enough.
i only consider taiwan neotech up-occ wires now, either solid, multi-strand, copper or silver or mixed, litz or not litz, frozen or not.. they are the only wires i can completely vouch for, because i've tried many of them, and there is a clear difference in the sound. sure they are more expensive than this 7n occ wire (this wire could be around 22awg, i guess, and costs the same than frozen up-occ 28awg), but my choice is clear.
i only consider taiwan neotech up-occ wires now, either solid, multi-strand, copper or silver or mixed, litz or not litz, frozen or not.. they are the only wires i can completely vouch for, because i've tried many of them, and there is a clear difference in the sound.
their name starts with "tw" and includes "upocc". iirc, numbers from 165 to 189 (except 168) are reserved for them. their description also includes material used (copper, spc, silver) and if they are litz. all upocc wires listed in my list are frozen, except upocc silver99%gold1% alloy.
that FiiO was in my cart, to be purchased in summer sales. but found the neotech AG-GD (upocc silver99%gold1% alloy, i heard some very good impressions of it) and decided to get this one as my first confirmed pure silver cable.
i can't be happier. FiiO cable looked nice (structure and description), although they don't say the gauge of the strands nor total. it's litz and has got a very interesting geometry, but you pay extra fee for the brand name, and i had tested some up-occ wires before and trusted them 100%.
edits: fixed FiiO cable material and made other corrections
FiiO LC-2.5/3.5/4.4D looks a very good chance to try a good pure silver cable. but cables 173/174 are also a very good choice. i've ordered a mix of 174 (pure silver) with 171 (copper) now, for bright combos, to improve lows boldness.
i'll might try FiiO one in the future to compare (or will wait to someone lends me it to be measured and compared).
judging from others impressions, guess the result sound of FiiO cable is similar to AG-GD relative to tonality perception (tighter more controlled impactful and detailed lows, better mids and highs perception, overall brighter result), useful for dark source+phones combos, classical music, jazz..
but i'd like to know if you get same deep sound stage as with AG-GD (the deepest i've tried).
So, looking through the ones you suggested, it seems like 165 is probably your favorite?
I wish it was available with straight mmcx plugs, but I can deal with angled plugs.
Is there anything I need to be aware of with 165? I could be mistaken, but I seem to remember a few people having trouble with the mmcx jacks? I just can’t remember exactly what that problem was (if there was even a problem at all).
So, looking through the ones you suggested, it seems like 165 is probably your favorite?
I wish it was available with straight mmcx plugs, but I can deal with angled plugs.
Is there anything I need to be aware of with 165? I could be mistaken, but I seem to remember a few people having trouble with the mmcx jacks? I just can’t remember exactly what that problem was (if there was even a problem at all).
Hello, first time posting here so sorry for potentially asking a dumb question.
I was interested in making a cable using the (169) cable as my headphones require a 3.5mm TRS to dual separate 3.5mm TRS but I'm not quite sure where to begin as far as the plugs go. Do you have any recommendations?
I was thinking of either doing a 4 core or 8 core using the (169) wire. I already have the necessary skills and equipment for soldering, just need the wire, plugs, and separator.
Hello, first time posting here so sorry for potentially asking a dumb question.
I was interested in making a cable using the (169) cable as my headphones require a 3.5mm TRS to dual separate 3.5mm TRS but I'm not quite sure where to begin as far as the plugs go. Do you have any recommendations?
I was thinking of either doing a 4 core or 8 core using the (169) wire. I already have the necessary skills and equipment for soldering, just need the wire, plugs, and separator.
i also found it at taobao, similar price, but it's more difficult to get it from abroad (using an agent, higher shipping costs, etc.)
you have tons of different plugs and separators in aliexpress and taobao. different materials, plating, type of contacts, and quality.
3.5mm TRS jack:
for this jack, you need to ensure that tail width will allow to fit the wires and strain relief you are going to use (calculate yours from number and outer diameter of the wires you are going to fit into this jack, plus strain relief)
for old style contacts (lids instead of concentric tubes), L plug, i like classic Neutrik NTP3RC-B (gold plated brass) due to its locking system. but you'd have to trim the tail hole, because it's in the thin side.
in the same shop of the wire, you can find some top quality ones (beryllium copper, gold + rhodium plated) at good price; they are quite better quality than all usual chinese plugs, and comparable to high quality plugs from reputed brands (furukawa, bispa, eidolic, oyaide, alo audio, etc). if you are solder skilled, you can dare to use gold+rhodium plated ones; going safe, gold plated version are very good as well. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000007579285.html eagle/connoisseur gold+rhodium plated copper https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000054557682.html eagle/connoisseur gold plated copper, various tail hole diameters https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000007390699.html rodhium plated and gold plated, sandalwood exclusive (pairs perfect with sandalwood separators) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33001828856.html
2 * 3.5mm TRS plugs:
these are going to be plugged into the headphones. tail hole and overall diameter should be lower than jack, because fewer cables inside and because you don't want to add weight to your headphones. bevel wished, to fit recessed sockets of headphones.
the headphones don't use ring contact of these plugs, in the case of 2 * 3.5/2.5mm plugs. positive signal goes to tip, and ground (single ended cable) or negative signal (balanced cable) goes to sleeve. so TS plugs would also serve.
however, if you want to avoid all the effort of braiding, soldering, etc., you can add the needed components to your cart, and ask for a quote in this shop for the ready made cable; this is what i do. the manufacturer is very skilled and you can find the final price is quite good compared with your time and effort.
another option is what i'm doing for my 2*3.5mm hifiman headphones lately.
i ask for mmcx/2pins ended cables, without molded ear guides, which can be used with my iems, and then i add these kind of adapters to be used with 2*3.5mm headphones: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=567550044376
in the pic they look TS plugs, but i received TRS 3.5mm plugs after saying that they are for hifiman headphones (anyway, TS plugs work perfectly, ring is not used)
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thanks a lot for your comments. You really gave me the info I needed.
