[hakuzen]

I was looking at purchasing the isn cable, either c16/h16/c4/s4, for my audiosense t800, any idea which would pair best?

i only own c16 from these, and haven't got T800; but i'd bet for s4 between them.
some head-fiers have told me wonders about cable 175 of my list and T800. it's my all terrain fav, but i've received vogue series cables from effect audio and i'm full of expectations with them

 

[hemipowered007]

i only own c16 from these, and haven't got T800; but i'd bet for s4 between them.
some head-fiers have told me wonders about cable 175 of my list and T800. it's my all terrain fav, but i've received vogue series cables from effect audio and i'm full of expectations with them

Is cable 175 the s4? I am on my phone and the new headfi screws up some pages and i cant get the full info anymore on my phone.

 

[hemipowered007]

Nevermind figured it out, 200 dollars is vastly more than im looking to spend but that cable surely looks amazing. Unfortunately the s4 i cannot find in mmcx 4.4, so looks like s16, which i did see another person with the t800 had before. Thanks

 

[thejoneser]

Maybe a dumb question, but is there a sonic advantage to ordering an 8 core cable vs 4 core? I'm specifically looking at cables 173/174. Does an increase in number of cores affect the sound? And BTW, thank you so much, hakuzen, for this amazing resource!

 

[muths66]

Maybe a dumb question, but is there a sonic advantage to ordering an 8 core cable vs 4 core? I'm specifically looking at cables 173/174. Does an increase in number of cores affect the sound? And BTW, thank you so much, hakuzen, for this amazing resource!

i nv had a 4cores only 1 from electro. Rest of the cables from them i had is 8cores and i love it.

 

[hakuzen]

Maybe a dumb question, but is there a sonic advantage to ordering an 8 core cable vs 4 core? I'm specifically looking at cables 173/174. Does an increase in number of cores affect the sound? And BTW, thank you so much, hakuzen, for this amazing resource!

thank you for your appreciation.

i prefer 8 cores to keep total output impedance lower
"low resistance is important to get minimum total output impedance (of course, if your source output impedance is high, total will be high regardless of cable resistance), in order to minimize tonal alterations when using iems with balanced armatures.
it's also convenient to decrease attenuation and to increase damping factor and efficiency."

but i don't think you'll get noticeable sound difference with the 8 cores version vs 4 cores one of the same cable, except in extreme impedance circumstances.
so you can go for 173 (4 cores) safely, no sound disadvantages. that cable is very special and unique, in my opinion.

 

[CoiL]

@hakuzen , can you please recommend me ~30$ copper cable with small/short mmcx connectors and impedance around 0.3Ohm max?
I need it for me BIE/IT01 metamorphosis
My own copper litz cable is still unfinished since I don`t have some specific tools atm to finish PO sleeving. Otherwise would use my own DIY cable.
IT01 stock cable is now rubbish (stiff, springy, sleeving cracked), otherwise great low impedance/sounding.

 

[hakuzen]

@hakuzen , can you please recommend me ~30$ copper cable with small/short mmcx connectors and impedance around 0.3Ohm max?
I need it for me BIE/IT01 metamorphosis
My own copper litz cable is still unfinished since I don`t have some specific tools atm to finish PO sleeving. Otherwise would use my own DIY cable.
IT01 stock cable is now rubbish (stiff, springy, sleeving cracked), otherwise great low impedance/sounding.

i don't know which length/size of mmcx plugs would be short/small enough for you. i don't remember a good one having extra short/small mmcx plugs now.

anyway, suggestion for everybody asking for my favorite cables in a budget segment:
surf on the comments, pics, and links sections, in order, clicking on links to check approximated price, till you reach your budget. the first ones you find will be my favorites.

 

[imackler]

Hello! Can had one or two ohm impedance to an existing iem cable by adding an extension? like a 3' 3.5mm m on end, f on the other? Thanks!

 

[dh0licious]

Hello!

I have mainly KZ's (ZS10 Pro and CCA C12, so TypeC connector). I'm wondering if you can suggest a good balanced cable (8 or 16 core) under US$25. I have the Tripowin Zonie 16 core on the way but looking at getting a few more with low resistance from your list.

Do you have plans to measure any KB-EAR or Tripowin headphones? I haven't seen them mentioned on this thread, I hope they're not a banned word. If so please let me know

 

[dh0licious]

@hakuzen I'm looking for a 2.5mm to male to 2.5mm female (yes 2.5mm) L-plug so I can stop putting strain on my headphone jack with my straight cable. But couldn't find any you tested.

Do these sorts of plugs exists, and if so do you recommend any?

 

[hakuzen]

@hakuzen I'm looking for a 2.5mm to male to 2.5mm female (yes 2.5mm) L-plug so I can stop putting strain on my headphone jack with my straight cable. But couldn't find any you tested.

Do these sorts of plugs exists, and if so do you recommend any?

yes, these plugs do exist.
for example:
male:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32949530833.html, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32996114275.html, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33055224902.html,
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32991373708.html, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32816595418.html, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000851167655.html, etc
but you'd have to buy wire, female 2.5mm socket (lots of them also available), and DIY

the easier way is to find a seller who makes the cable for you. in that case, my recommendation is CEMA electro acousti shop at aliexpress.
you'd have to message to the seller to ask him to make the cable for you, mentioning "head-fi" or "hakuzen" to get a discount; then order the desired components (the plugs are quite better than the above ones, but more expensive), but don't pay it, wait for the seller adjust the price to reflect work job price and discount, and then pay it.
i suggest these components:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33054928246.html (2.5mm male L)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000007394708.html (2.5mm female, excellent quality, let the seller to choose the hole width, depending of the chosen wire)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000910527446.html (wire, a cable using this wire is in my list; choose your length; if it is not a round number, you'll have to indicate it to the seller).

 

[dh0licious]

yes, these plugs do exist.
for example:
male:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32949530833.html, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32996114275.html, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33055224902.html,
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32991373708.html, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32816595418.html, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000851167655.html, etc
but you'd have to buy wire, female 2.5mm socket (lots of them also available), and DIY

the easier way is to find a seller who makes the cable for you. in that case, my recommendation is CEMA electro acousti shop at aliexpress.
you'd have to message to the seller to ask him to make the cable for you, mentioning "head-fi" or "hakuzen" to get a discount; then order the desired components (the plugs are quite better than the above ones, but more expensive), but don't pay it, wait for the seller adjust the price to reflect work job price and discount, and then pay it.
i suggest these components:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33054928246.html (2.5mm male L)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000007394708.html (2.5mm female, excellent quality, let the seller to choose the hole width, depending of the chosen wire)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000910527446.html (wire, a cable using this wire is in my list; choose your length; if it is not a round number, you'll have to indicate it to the seller).

Thanks @hakuzen really informative. I have now spoken to CEMA electro acousti shop.

Just one question. He said the smallest length he can do is 5cm, however I was hoping to have no cable at all, so it looks something like this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32865122372.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.18034c4dK8Hvvj

Is that possible? If not I will ask them to make with the shortest cable, but do you think it's safe to go lower than 5cm?

 

[hakuzen]

oh, didn't notice you wanted such a short extension, my bad.

i searched in the past for a long 2.5mm extension (around 3.5m) for headphones, and also for a quality L 2.5mm plug adapter to take care of the sources socket (too many plugs/unplugs when measuring or when doing cables comparisons). at last, had to DIY the long extension, and didn't find a quality 2.5 to 2.5 L adapter.

explain your needs to the seller. being a so short adapter, you might let the seller to choose the wire and maybe you won't have to pay for the wire; anyway, the price of the wire i suggested is tiny compared to the cost of the plugs and hand work.

you have to make the order to let the seller know which components you pretend to use. don't pay it, because the seller will calculate the final price, based on the components + hand work - discount. if you don't agree with the final price, you can discuss it and/or you can cancel the order, and maybe choose other components for a new try.

 

[dh0licious]

oh, didn't notice you wanted such a short extension, my bad.

i searched in the past for a long 2.5mm extension (around 3.5m) for headphones, and also for a quality L 2.5mm plug adapter to take care of the sources socket (too many plugs/unplugs when measuring or when doing cables comparisons). at last, had to DIY the long extension, and didn't find a quality 2.5 to 2.5 L adapter.

explain your needs to the seller. being a so short adapter, you might let the seller to choose the wire and maybe you won't have to pay for the wire; anyway, the price of the wire i suggested is tiny compared to the cost of the plugs and hand work.

you have to make the order to let the seller know which components you pretend to use. don't pay it, because the seller will calculate the final price, based on the components + hand work - discount. if you don't agree with the final price, you can discuss it and/or you can cancel the order, and maybe choose other components for a new try.

For anyone else looking for a L-plug 2.5mm male to 2.5mm female adapter to avoid putting strain on your straight cables:

I msg'd 'CEMA Electro acousti Store' (https://www.aliexpress.com/store/5003206?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000061.1.18741e3204CoWj) through Message Centre and advised I want the following assembled into a short 2.5mm male to 2.5mm female adapter.

• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33054928246.html
• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000007394708.html
• https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000910527446.html

I told him i want the cable to be as short as possible which he advised is 5cm and to also apply any Head-Fi/Hakuzen discount. The final price he quoted was US$23.8 + shipping - I think that's a great price considering they will assemble all the above parts for you and these 3 parts have @hakuzen seal of approval . Do consider this option if you're looking for the same as it seems such an adapter does not exist right now out of the box.