Faust2D
Headphoneus Supremus
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Well I like T50RP a lot, I managed to mod them to sound very similar to O2 in tonality and overall character out of my amp. They still don't have great soundstage, but not a lot of orthos do. The transient response, speed and low level detail retrieval can be improved, but perception of the soundstage goes to hell if I do that, it becomes this tiny SR-X like walnut head-space and I hate that. My problem with all orthodynamic headphones is soundstage. When you dampen orthos so they sound good and fast, almost stat like, the soundstage suffers and shrinks to this tiny unrealistic space. Only a few orthos managed to sound big even after heavy damping. I still think that orthos are incredibly good at what they do best, combining dynamic headphone bass impact and stat speed and details, if only you can add realistic soundstage to this mix....I would move them on top of the heap.
This is why, sadly, I like any Lambda better than any ortho I heard so far, and forget about O2 and Sigma, they are just incredible in this respect.
I tend to use orthos now with a lot of grind-core, metal and etc now, that way I don't notice this as much as when I put on Jazz or something with a lot of spacial cues.
T50RP is on par with YH-1 for me, they sound different but in terms of enjoyment are in the same category. I would rank them close to the top of the ortho game. If I were to rank all of orthos I heard it would look something like this:
1) Yamaha YH-100 (FV modded) - just slightly ahead of all others
2) Yamaha YH-1 (ericj modded) / Fostex T50RP (F2D modded)
3) Yamaha YHD-1 (F2D modded) / Yamaha YHE-50A (modded to stereo by dBel84, damped by dBel84 and F2D)
4) Fostex T20v2 (F2D modded) / Fostex T30 (need to mod, but comfort sucks anyway)
5) Yamaha HP-50S
6) Audio-Technica ATH-1
7) Pro 30
8) ATH-2
Originally Posted by JadeEast /img/forum/go_quote.gif Anything in particular missing or added that's detracting from your enthusiasm of the T50? |
Well I like T50RP a lot, I managed to mod them to sound very similar to O2 in tonality and overall character out of my amp. They still don't have great soundstage, but not a lot of orthos do. The transient response, speed and low level detail retrieval can be improved, but perception of the soundstage goes to hell if I do that, it becomes this tiny SR-X like walnut head-space and I hate that. My problem with all orthodynamic headphones is soundstage. When you dampen orthos so they sound good and fast, almost stat like, the soundstage suffers and shrinks to this tiny unrealistic space. Only a few orthos managed to sound big even after heavy damping. I still think that orthos are incredibly good at what they do best, combining dynamic headphone bass impact and stat speed and details, if only you can add realistic soundstage to this mix....I would move them on top of the heap.
This is why, sadly, I like any Lambda better than any ortho I heard so far, and forget about O2 and Sigma, they are just incredible in this respect.
T50RP is on par with YH-1 for me, they sound different but in terms of enjoyment are in the same category. I would rank them close to the top of the ortho game. If I were to rank all of orthos I heard it would look something like this:
1) Yamaha YH-100 (FV modded) - just slightly ahead of all others
2) Yamaha YH-1 (ericj modded) / Fostex T50RP (F2D modded)
3) Yamaha YHD-1 (F2D modded) / Yamaha YHE-50A (modded to stereo by dBel84, damped by dBel84 and F2D)
4) Fostex T20v2 (F2D modded) / Fostex T30 (need to mod, but comfort sucks anyway)
5) Yamaha HP-50S
6) Audio-Technica ATH-1
7) Pro 30
8) ATH-2