MattTCG
Headphoneus Supremus
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The sound signature seems taylor made for me. Can't wait to give this one a listen.
I don't disagree with your bass statements.
Only on perception as a whole, as the pm-1 does not sound lacking in any trait, and that is impressive when comparing to these other top cans..
I could be more specific and say that the LCD bass to me was more "visceral" than even the Hifiman, to me in general.
The LCD3 is what I wanted before I herd the LCD X.
Now with these oppo I feel it strikes a balance that is immensely satisfying over whole spectrum.
For portable rigs it is closer to the LCD than the Hifiman.
Makes sense. Again, I'm only speaking for my personal preferences and based on the graphs available certainly wouldn't call the PM-1 lacking in bass, though would have to hear the treble myself as the FR graph is only OK. Can't speak to portable rigs and it's entirely possible the PM-1 may be the equal of the LCD3 from portable hardware.
Was hoping for a lighter headphone that could equal the LCD3's bass. Just doesn't look like the PM-1 will do that for me. That's hardly a knock on the Oppo - it certainly seems more than capable of competing in it's price range.
Possibly the he560 would be more what you're after then.
Possibly the he560 would be more what you're after then.
Possibly the he560 would be more what you're after then.
I am hoping the he560 is the "poor man's equivalent" to the LCD X
Depends on what equal means here. Hifiman headphones have a very different approach of bass than Audeze. Tight, fast and well defined vs. Rumble, extended and enveloping (but kinda sluggish).
The closest to that was the 500s (bloom, good extension) but i) it still wasn't totally there and ii) the 560s took the route of the 5LE instead (cleaner, tighter).
Wait and see...
They should have made a closed version.
If they could, it could topple all in that category. .
I've heard enough headphones to make reasonable extrapolations from graphs. I'm not saying anything negative about the PM-1, just that it doesn't seem on par with the LCD3, not being close enough in bass or treble output to have me interested.
I certainly don't consider the PM-1 being 3-6db down below 80hz to be insignificant. The LCD3 will have noticeably more bass.
As you also mention, both phones have the typical planar dip around 8K but the Oppo never recovers, where as the LCD3 does. The LCD3's dip is also over 10db more shallow than the PM-1
Some of the rest of your numbers seem to be unrealistically favoring the Oppo. For example, I don't see the Oppo leveling off between 13k and 17k. Being 25db down or better is hardly :leveling off" in any kind of positive way.
YMMV, but these are significant and would be audible to most. If you prefer the PM-1 signature, then that should be the headphone you buy but for my preferences, too much bass and treble roll off. The PM-1 does have a significant price advantage and should be more comfortable for many, so it still looks like a good buy - just not for me personally.