[loopy.s]

I'm wondering if this has good bass and high end extension. I noticed on the MD+ frequency chart that the high end kinda rolls off. I'm looking for something neutral with a bit of warmth.

 

[andrewwardell]

I'm looking for something neutral with a bit of warmth.

That would be my experience of the MD+ with the stock cable. I’m told copper-only cables like the Null Audio Brevity can further warm up the frequency response too, but I haven’t tried one myself.

 

[-rowan-]

I am a bit of a sceptic when it comes to cables but as much as I hate to say it, there are some audible differences cable-rolling with the MD+. For instance I've found that VE's Oyaide 102SSC (copper) adds a bit to the bass in terms of both quantity and quality and warms up the sound just a tad.

Likewise I imagine that a pure silver cable might help with top-end extension but haven't tried it personally.

 

[gLer]

Hey guys, just jumped on the Plus bandwagon. So far one word - exceptional. Question here as I’m an IEM noob: any reason they went for 2-pin rather than mmcx for the cable connector? Seems strange - those little pins are just begging to be bent.

 

[PopZeus]

Same. I’ve been searching for an IEM upgrade that is fun but closer to neutral in terms of treble response. So many IEMs are tuned either too dark or too bright.

Waiting for the MD+ to arrive! Picked up a Penon audio OFC 2.5mm cable to use with my balanced gear. Prefer copper to most silver cables that I’ve heard.

 

[kukkurovaca]

Hey guys, just jumped on the Plus bandwagon. So far one word - exceptional. Question here as I’m an IEM noob: any reason they went for 2-pin rather than mmcx for the cable connector? Seems strange - those little pins are just begging to be bent.

The plastic housing around the pins seats into the body of the IEM. While the cable is attached, nothing will bend the pins that doesn't also physically destroy the IEM itself.

The supplied cables are pretty fragile, and in many cases loose, though, so I would recommend replacing them.

As to 2-pin vs. MMCX, I don't see an issue with either. (Although I find it a PITA when MMCX phones swivel too loosely at the attachment point.)

 

[andrewwardell]

The supplied cables are pretty fragile, and in many cases loose, though, so I would recommend replacing them.

Haven't broken my stock cable yet, but can vouch for the looseness around the connector. Unfortunately both the replacement cables I've tried to date have not been able to remedy that looseness, particularly on the right-hand side earpiece. I've gotten around it by adhesive tape (masking tape is particularly good, insulation tape isn't) around the body of the connector just below the pins. (will provide a photo when I'm not at work).

@gLer The cable I've had the best run with outside of the stock cable is the Florea from Singapore Audio Hive: https://sgaudiohive.com/products/florea
They'll do that in pretty much any termination you require and in SPC or straight Copper depending on your preference.

I've also tried the MDxMee Balanced Cable, but I've got a few more words to say on that after some longer-term use and I wouldn't recommend it straight away unless you are doing a lot of switching out between SE and balanced sources.

Other people have had a good run with the Null Audio Brevity & Arete cables (Brevity is cheaper than the Florea, Arete is more expensive).

 

[kukkurovaca]

The Shozy Hibiki replacement cable is cheap, available on Amazon prime in the US, and fits snugly in the MD+ connectors, at least on mine.

Eventually, I'd like to get either a somewhat longer one or else a rather shorter one and an ES100 to go with it. But this seems to work well for now. Not sure about long-term durability, although so far so good.

 

[andrewwardell]

The Shozy Hibiki replacement cable is cheap, available on Amazon prime in the US, and fits snugly in the MD+ connectors, at least on mine.

Eventually, I'd like to get either a somewhat longer one or else a rather shorter one and an ES100 to go with it. But this seems to work well for now. Not sure about long-term durability, although so far so good.

Is that the lightning one or the TRS one?

 

[kukkurovaca]

Is that the lightning one or the TRS one?

TRRS, I guess, since it's a mic cable. But yeah, not lightning-based, just a regular ($20) cable. The connectors are similar to the ones on the stock MD+ cable, but they fit better and the cable overall is better-constructed. I snagged it b/c I needed something fast b/c the stock balanced cable died. (My 3.5mm stock cable was DOA to begin with.)

I don't really need a mic cable since I loathe making phone calls, but the mic and remote do work well.

 

[PopZeus]

The main thing that I find confusing about 2-pin connectors is how do you know if you're inserting the pins correctly? There usually is some kind of guide on the plug itself so you don't connect them incorrectly...

 

[gLer]

The main thing that I find confusing about 2-pin connectors is how do you know if you're inserting the pins correctly? There usually is some kind of guide on the plug itself so you don't connect them incorrectly...

Yeah everything about these IEMs is finicky, including the cable insert, which is why mmcx would have made more sense. Still, once everything is in and you’ve adjusted the tips in your ears so they fit ‘just right’ (I’m using Spiral Dots MS tips and they’re as good as their reputation suggests), the effort is totally worth it.

 

[bfreehd]

The main thing that I find confusing about 2-pin connectors is how do you know if you're inserting the pins correctly? There usually is some kind of guide on the plug itself so you don't connect them incorrectly...

If you look closely there is a small key-way between the pins. The socket on the IEM has a corresponding ridge

 

[-rowan-]

Waiting for the MD+ to arrive! Picked up a Penon audio OFC 2.5mm cable to use with my balanced gear. Prefer copper to most silver cables that I’ve heard.

Which Penon cable did you get? I recently took delivery of the OS849 and must say I really enjoyed pairing it with the MD+.

With the OS849, I get a bit more treble extension from the MD+ as well as more bass, but the biggest surprise was in the mids. Now I don't think the MD+ needs any help in the mids to begin with, but they sounded noticeably more natural and airier with the OS849. That's what I'm hearing at least; as always ymmv.

Oh and the connectors fit in the MD+ sockets with a very satisfying click.

@gLer The cable I've had the best run with outside of the stock cable is the Florea from Singapore Audio Hive: https://sgaudiohive.com/products/florea
They'll do that in pretty much any termination you require and in SPC or straight Copper depending on your preference.

Is your Florea copper or SPC and how does it sound with the MD+?

The main thing that I find confusing about 2-pin connectors is how do you know if you're inserting the pins correctly? There usually is some kind of guide on the plug itself so you don't connect them incorrectly...

The MD+ sockets have a tiny ridge so there's only one way you can insert them, but for IEMs that don't, you usually only have to make sure that L and R are inserted the same direction if you get my meaning.

 

[andrewwardell]

Is your Florea copper or SPC and how does it sound with the MD+?

Mine's SPC, and it makes the MDxMee cable feel over-extended, a bit hyper-real if you will. The Florea seems to synergise better with the MD+ I'm interested to hear more about the OS849 though!