AvijitSingh
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So many choices how do you decide I want to get a 4.4 and maybe a 2.5 cable
standard should be 0.78mm, but every 2-pin iems i got (kz and non-kz) go better with 0.75. this is even too wide for flc8s.
which 2-pin iem do you plan to use? in case of doubt, go for 0.75mm.
i measured that new trn cable, <$10, and edited my cables post in kz thread.
(56) trn spc+copper 8c (black+silver,2.5mm)..............423 219 289 150
.......trn spc+copper 8c (yellow+silver).........................454 219 135 267
this indicates that the wire used is good enough, but plugs and/or solders are not so good. hence the big difference between left and the rest.
not bad cable, i could say it's the best <$10. but i'd prefer to invest a bit more for the new nicehck slim one (posted above).
i don't own massdrop plus, but yes, the holes look huge, and some people report loose cables/fit. so get 0.78mmUsing for my Massdrop Plus. It's 0.78 right?
well, those made with:Thanks @hakuzen for pointing out this thread to me. Amazing source for budget cables for someone who just cannot justify spending hundreds of dollars on cables!
I already have the cheaper 8-core NICEHCK copper cable on preorder but this year I aim to cover all my cable needs in as much as possible combinations. Was looking for a pure silver cable but seems like they are not as "pure" as they claim to be, LOL.
Yesterday I just noticed that KZ has a lightning cable for both MMCX and 2pin. Anyone tried them yet? I'll probably get the 2pin version just for the convenience.
What do the measurement numbers mean? I'm not an electrician type person.i measured that new trn cable, <$10, and edited my cables post in kz thread.
(56) trn spc+copper 8c (black+silver,2.5mm)..............423 219 289 150
.......trn spc+copper 8c (yellow+silver).........................454 219 135 267
this indicates that the wire used is good enough, but plugs and/or solders are not so good. hence the big difference between left and the rest.
not bad cable, i could say it's the best <$10. but i'd prefer to invest a bit more for the new nicehck slim one (posted above).
this is (0.05mm*20 OCC)*8cores + (0.05mm*12 SPC)*8cores. the only "mixed" cable i bought, used one type of wire for signal (or hot, when balanced) and the other type for ground (or cold, when balanced).This looks like a nice alternative to the Mee Audio Cables.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4-in-1-Plug-16-Cores-OCC-Pure-Silver-Plated-Cable-for-Shure-SE215-SE315-SE425/32948504861.html
sound impressions of cables. i've measured frequency response of same iems when using different cables, and the only noticeable difference is overall volume (higher when better conductivity of the cable). so about tonality, no difference at all.Great thread! Good timing too. Tempted to spring for a few of these come 11.11.
In the meantime, I'd appreciate it if anyone can provide sound impressions for any of the cables in this thread as well.
I'll take a stab at the Penon OS849, which I'm currently enjoying very much... bit spendy compared to most of the other recs here but still cheap and cheerful compared to the big boys, in addition to being a clear upgrade to most stock cables.
I've used a few cheapo SPC cables in the past, and the OS849 just brings more sparkle and air to the mix. It also sounds way more natural. Big, warm but reasonably tight bass from the copper.
Some quick takes:
S-EM9: Cleans up the slightly veiled mids of the stock cable nicely. Smooths out the bass more than I would like, but that's just personal preference and I probably wouldn't even have noticed it if the S-EM9 wasn't so crazy detailed.
iSine 20: The best pairing I've heard yet. I didn't know the iSine 20 was capable of such natural-sounding mids. They were so honky with the stock cable. This cable practically saved them from the auction block.
Massdrop Plus: Another good pairing. These work well with spiral dots to coax more air and sparkle out of the MD+.
about 2nd cable, you know my opinion. about 1st cable, i don't know. but i got the "6N frozen" copper cable for LZ, and didn't like it too much. i'm going to try this instead. because it looks similar to one i liked very much in that segment of SPC cables: number 52 (silver color one) of my list of kz cables; good repairable jack and plugs, progressive strain reliefs, good conductivity, mmcx/2pin 3.5, 2.5, and 4mm available.@Dsnuts @hakuzen Anything to watch out for when buying the cables I think I know what I am getting at this point. This https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New...358.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.816c2e0efpdkmR and https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NIC...l?spm=2114.12010108.1000023.12.3bcf48afBMNw62
sorry. numbers are mΩ. resistivity, opposite to conductivity. read my bold sentence above.What do the measurement numbers mean? I'm not an electrician type person.
Is this the NICEHCK cable you're talking about that is better than the TRN 8 core new cables for $11?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NIC...ed-8-Core-High-Purity-Copper/32916162030.html
yes. any of the types (colors) of your link is better than the new trn 8 cores cable (you pay 2x, but still budget, and you get better cable).
the trn isn't bad, and quite better than old cheap <$10 upgrades. wire is good, but there is something weird in the solders of the jack: 2 cores should be used for each signal/ground, but they used only 1 core for left signal, and 3 cores for left ground (in 3.5mm jack) or right cold (in 2.5mm jack). trn should check how their operators are soldering the jacks (tried 3.5mm and 2.5mm, and both were wrong).
sure. but many users can't do that. and many others would find paying $7 a better deal.It should be easy enough to resolder the TRN 8-core and redistribute the cores evenly.
sure. but many users can't do that. and many others would find paying $7 a better deal.
i'm trying to open the jack to check the solders, no success. color of the sleeves are gorgeous, specially the silver (shiny grey) + black.
this is why i appreciate repairable plugs..
This looks like a nice alternative to the Mee Audio Cables.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4-i...lgo_pvid=7456ce41-afec-4b68-b909-490db06367f5