Low end. Cheap. Generic. Otherwise bang for buck cable thread!
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I'd also take a ultra short as well, its just a time and money thing. thats the one thing I do like about fiio, it is relatively affordable and easily accessible, those ultra short adaptors must be really annoying to make too, I really like the idea of a female 4 pin mini xlr to whatever adaptor set up, maybe get that as my next cable when I find one I like.

I took a chance and ordered the satin audio cables so if anyone is interested in hopefully a week to 10 days i will have them and can post some impressions/pictures and compare to the fiio and alo litz cable, just in terms of feel and and ergonomics ill hold off on saying anything about the sound unless i notice something signiifcant.
 
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Anyone know anything about the 16-braid cables I’ve been seeing popping up for ~$30?

Obviously, the individual wires will have thinner gauge than a similar 8-braid cable. I’m more interested in knowing how bulky there are, how soft the wire feels, impedance, quality of the mmcx connectors, etc.
 
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I measured the M6 with 5 different cables: stock, Tinaudio T2, $8 copper NiceHCK, $7 silver from another third party, and the silver cable that came with the NiceHCK EP35. No difference found (within error; the wiggles above 7 kHz are unreliable).

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I measured the M6 with 5 different cables: stock, Tinaudio T2, $8 copper NiceHCK, $7 silver from another third party, and the silver cable that came with the NiceHCK EP35. No difference found (within error; the wiggles above 7 kHz are unreliable).

I was wondering would a csd or impulse graph also show the exact same results. Freq resp Graphs rarely show anything different yet people still find some cables to make a difference.
I am still skeptical myself but I thought it would interesting to see what different measurement types show
 
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I was wondering would a csd or impulse graph also show the exact same results. Freq resp Graphs rarely show anything different yet people still find some cables to make a difference.
I am still skeptical myself but I thought it would interesting to see what different measurement types show
I never believed that cables make any difference to a sound till I tried the NiceHCK 8 core copper cable and can definitely hear a big difference in the bass.
However I wouldn't attribute it to the cable material making a difference, the NiceHCK cable is thick and heavy which I believe affected the angle of the nozzles pointing to my ears or because of the stiffer ear hooks affected the pressure against my ear canals.

I experienced it with my Ostry KC09, which are dynamic drivers and are not as affected by impedence.
When I swapped the stock lightweight cable with a similar lightweight cable (Tinaudio T2) I couldn't hear any difference at all.
 
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Are HiFiHear cables decent? I’ve never heard of this brand...

They have some really nice looking cables for pretty tempting prices.
 
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I believe it is the same brand as **** but in the Japanese market. They seem to be all made from the same OEM. Very similar cables they sell vs what is on the NiceHCK site. I do notice NiceHCK charges more for their versions however.

Oh by the way I got some information on the next big sales for Aliexpress. It will be 3/28/2019.

Still don't have all my cables yet from 11.11. Just amazing how long it is taking.
 
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I believe it is the same brand as **** but in the Japanese market. They seem to be all made from the same OEM. Very similar cables they sell vs what is on the NiceHCK site. I do notice NiceHCK charges more for their versions however.

Oh by the way I got some information on the next big sales for Aliexpress. It will be 3/28/2019.

Still don't have all my cables yet from 11.11. Just amazing how long it is taking.
OK, thanks for the info. I was unaware they were affiliated with the banned seller :frowning2:
 
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I believe it is the same brand as **** but in the Japanese market. They seem to be all made from the same OEM. Very similar cables they sell vs what is on the NiceHCK site. I do notice NiceHCK charges more for their versions however.

Oh by the way I got some information on the next big sales for Aliexpress. It will be 3/28/2019.

Still don't have all my cables yet from 11.11. Just amazing how long it is taking.

i mean the other option is 35-50 in shipping
 
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Anyone know anything about the 16-braid cables I’ve been seeing popping up for ~$30?

Obviously, the individual wires will have thinner gauge than a similar 8-braid cable. I’m more interested in knowing how bulky there are, how soft the wire feels, impedance, quality of the mmcx connectors, etc.
i got three 16 cores cables. numbers 055 and 110 in my list. total thickness of the wire is approximately the same than average 8 cores cables. they are a bit softer and more flexible than 8 cores (although most 8 cores cables are enough soft, imo).
about conductivity, comparing cable 055 to its 8 cores sibling (050), you get only about 12-15% more conductivity. so price should be +25% (maximum) of its 8 cores sibling, not 200%.
 
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i got three 16 cores cables. numbers 055 and 110 in my list. total thickness of the wire is approximately the same than average 8 cores cables. they are a bit softer and more flexible than 8 cores (although most 8 cores cables are enough soft, imo).
about conductivity, comparing cable 055 to its 8 cores sibling (050), you get only about 12-15% more conductivity. so price should be +25% (maximum) of its 8 cores sibling, not 200%.
Thanks, that’s exactly what I was looking for.

I imagine the additional markup is due to labor, as managing the separation, organization, and soldering of 16 wires is tedious.
 
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I was wondering would a csd or impulse graph also show the exact same results. Freq resp Graphs rarely show anything different yet people still find some cables to make a difference.
I am still skeptical myself but I thought it would interesting to see what different measurement types show
No impulse graph yet as I am not yet so deep into the topic. That's why I just reported the observations (matching graphs) and no interpretations. But from what I read is that some people hear differences between cables, although most say they are subtle.
 
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Hello, Could someone recommend a Budget (under / around $35 USD) 2.5mm Balance OFC Silver coated cable that Doesn't have the Ear Hooks?

Thanks!

Sold From Amazon preferred since I have Prime.
 
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NiceHCK have a few nice cables in your price range
 
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Hello, Could someone recommend a Budget (under / around $35 USD) 2.5mm Balance OFC Silver coated cable that Doesn't have the Ear Hooks?

Thanks!

Sold From Amazon preferred since I have Prime.
https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-**...38&sr=8-21&keywords=2.5mm+TRRS+earphone+cable

These are probably the only options on Amazon. But I have no idea how they measure though. Maybe @hakuzen can chime in.

NiceHCK have a few nice cables in your price range
NiceHCK have great cables at very good value price points. Unfortunately , they are not on Amazon though.
 
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