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Low end. Cheap. Generic. Otherwise bang for buck cable thread!

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  1. ShabtabQ
  2. zombywoof
    I can also recommend the ISN cables. I have the ISN S16 and find it to be good quality for the price. I purchased it to replace the ALO cable that came with my Campfire Orions. Works great. I have not detected any performance issues compared to the ALO cable.
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  3. superuser1
    Great cable with a very dark background.
    It could take the edge off the highs which may at times not be desirable. It's 168? on @hakuzen list i think.
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  4. Palash
    ISN Audio S8, without any doubt.
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  5. hakuzen
    yes, it's 168 (thanks, you are getting used to my crazy cryptic numbers!).
    for Tin T2 i also think this cable is a better pairing than ISN S8. Tin T2 is not bass heavy, and upper mids and treble are bright and airy enough. good quality copper cables recommended, rather than silver plated copper ones.
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  6. fokta
    WhatsApp Image 2019-08-10 at 21.40.24.jpeg
    @hakuzen or anyone,
    have tried this cable before ?
  7. superuser1
    I'm interested to try these.
  8. zombywoof
    Available on Amazon US...7 reviews with 3 reviewers indicating connector issues. Seems like a rather high frequency for it to be a random issue.
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  9. hakuzen
    i've not tried this.
    but expect similar quality than other similar 16 cores cables from my list.
    L jack is welcome, hope more sellers start to offer this kind of plugs as an option.
    after trying some 16 cores cables, my opinion is that more flexibility is their only advantage.
    to get a decent flexibility, but better other attributes, i use to prefer 8 cores cables.

    parallel capacitance gets increased with cores (and length).
    i've corrected the few parallel capacitance measurements in my list (subtracted leads capacitance).
    i plan to measure that capacitance in all my cables, together with length of cable (not counting plugs), when i get the time for it, because think it's an interesting measurement of signals isolation.
    i'm doing +/ground measurements (+/- in balanced cables), which is usually similar lo left/right capacitance in most of these multi-core cables (if different, due to cable geometry, i'll also measure left/right capacitance).
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  10. hakuzen
    added new acquisition to the list:

    175. tw upocc AgAu+copper lizt 8c (silv/cop,eagle,MV).195..163..161..173 mΩ..[35.7g]..137..138 pF..[137cm]
    this is a custom cable: 1.5m long (from 12m of wire), mix of cables 170/171 (copper) and 173/174 (silver).
    one core of each material is used in every contact/signal. this way, the attributes are a direct average of cables 171 and 174, and i think i's the best approach for mixing different wires in single-ended cables. other possibility to explore with balanced cables is using one material for positive signals and the other for negative signals, which is possible to be made in 4 cores cables as well.
    it's the most versatile cable: it can pair well either with dark or bright combos.
    not needed to say this is same top quality cable as 174 and 171. mix of one of the purest copper and silver wires (up-occ) you can find.
    curious thing is how the craftman braided the cores; the result is like a zebra snake, very original indeed.
    pics: it's a true beauty..
    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    i think i should had ordered a red sandalwood jack this time, and polished 2pins plugs..
    other pics of the "snake":
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2019
    Palash, FlySweep, thejoker13 and 9 others like this.
  11. kingdixon
    So it arrived .. and beautiful indeed ..

    How is the ergonomics and stifness against other cables ?
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  12. superuser1
    @hakuzen i am getting my wallet ready :D
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  13. Amsterdam
    Hi there,

    What is the name of the cable and where did you buy it?

    It's a Beauty.



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  14. hakuzen
    it's like 171 or 174. expected more stiffness when i first ordered these 8 cables, and found they are suppler than i thought when received them.
    it isn't the most flexible cable; compared with the 8 cores cables king of flexibility, cable 130 (5mm thickness), for example, 175/174/171 (8 cores, 5.1/5.3/5mm thickness) are stiffer.
    so louder microphonics although i can't hear them when playing music. they are reasonably flexible, i'd say average, and more flexible than those 4 thick cores cables.

    compared to the king, 130, these PE sheathed up-occ wires use thicker sleeve, and probably different and stiffer material. in the other hand, they have better dielectric properties, which help to better isolation.
    the dielectric material used in litz up-occ wires also looks stiffer than others, but probably has better isolation properties.
    guess this helps with blacker background.
    if you look at my recent parallel capacitance measurements, cable 130 measures 159-164pF (for a 118cm cable), 174 measures 114-104pF (113cm), 171 measures 121-111 (117cm), and new 175 measures 137-138pF (137cm!).
    these up-occ wires are showing the least parallel capacitance in my list (taking number of cores in account).
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  15. hakuzen
    it's a custom cable manufactured at electro acousti shop of aliexpress. it's a mix of other stock cables from them, cable 171 and 174 in my list (check the link at my signature: there are measurements, comments, pics and links to these cables inside)
    List of cables

    edit: the links to these specific up-occ cables are here: pics, comments, and links, part 1
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2019
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