[SP Wild]

Just came from a massive head jam session with the K701s.  For whatever reason, the K701 started to lose favor with me and I seemed to have condemned it to a low volume can...
 
This cannot be further from the truth.  The K701 can sink a lot of current....probably more than the LCD2s to attain reference level.  But provided there is sufficient power, the K701 can blast the SPLs....and the chassis does not vibrate whatsoever.  To put this in perspective, the HF2s would start vibrating massively, the D7000s are vibrating as is the HD650.  Only the LCD2s and K701 remain rock steady.  If the headphone physically vibrates, it means the baffles are not anchored correctly and the drivers are not outputting a true signal (hello K1000).
 
Also, only the K701 and LCD2 to me exhibit no grain...all the other cans are grained to my ears.  The K701 sound nice at high volumes and I can adapt well, something I couldn't with other so called "bright" cans.
 
No doubt this is due to the K701s treble presentation.  It seems to render the tonality of cymbals more perfectly than my other cans.  The cymbals are well damped and not excessively splashy.  Cymbals sound just a bit too splashy with the LCD2s for me, and just a bit rolled off and grained with the HD650.
 
Using the Phoenix amplifier balanced into the K701.  This is the first high volume test I conducted with the pairing, the K701s are brilliant at high volumes.

 

[sh4w]

I have achieved the best sound with the K701 so far using the following settings:






note that I'm using the headphone jack of nearfield monitors and they probably have monstrous output impedance which would make most headphone's bass muddy ( I guess?) but its actually a very beneficial effect for the K701!

 

[rosgr63]

Is there a Mac equivalent to Electri-Q?

 

[SP Wild]

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I have achieved the best sound with the K701 so far using the following settings:






note that I'm using the headphone jack of nearfield monitors and they probably have monstrous output impedance which would make most headphone's bass muddy ( I guess?) but its actually a very beneficial effect for the K701!

I just tried to EQ and have found that a dip similar to the first on yours is the most beneficial.  down about 4-5 decibels about 3-4 khz worked OK.  Then that leaves sibilance which then becomes a problem and more fine tuning is needed above this eq'd dip.
 
Then again play something like Norah Jones and EQ doesn't seem all that necessary.
 
Actually, there is still very noticeable grain when switching directly from the LCD2s.  But without AB comparisons, it doesn't seem to bother me that much as others.  I'm thinking this uppermids peaks is what masks the sibilance and grain at high treble, making the treble sound much nicer than if it didn't have that upper mid peak.  Then again on some recordings there really isn't that much peak at all.
 

 

[brat]

I have Electri-Q but i find it difficult to adjust. I use the implemented equalizer of foobar and it works just fine. For Audio-GD FUN + k701 I keep the 55hz slide at +3db and the 77hz slide at +2db. This setting compensates well the bass drop of k701.

 

[SP Wild]

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I have Electri-Q but i find it difficult to adjust. I use the implemented equalizer of foobar and it works just fine. For Audio-GD FUN + k701 I keep the 55hz slide at +3db and the 77hz slide at +2db. This setting compensates well the bass drop of k701.

That EQ should work well, but the problem I find with the K701 is that it doesn't respond well with more EQ .  Trying to skew the center of tonal balance lower by boosting or cutting bass or treble respectively shrinks the soundstage a lot.  This didn't happen when EQing the HD800.  Then the K701s start to sound really SLOW when trying to do this.
 
As is without EQ it sounds smooth, and spritely.  Which is good.
 

 

[Acix]

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Duet 2 looks like great value. A little annoyed I don't have a mac anymore...

Agree, even the first duet have a great value as used...but still only for the Mac users : (

 

[Acix]

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Just came from a massive head jam session with the K701s.  For whatever reason, the K701 started to lose favor with me and I seemed to have condemned it to a low volume can...
 
This cannot be further from the truth.  The K701 can sink a lot of current....probably more than the LCD2s to attain reference level.  But provided there is sufficient power, the K701 can blast the SPLs....and the chassis does not vibrate whatsoever.  To put this in perspective, the HF2s would start vibrating massively, the D7000s are vibrating as is the HD650.  Only the LCD2s and K701 remain rock steady.  If the headphone physically vibrates, it means the baffles are not anchored correctly and the drivers are not outputting a true signal (hello K1000).
 
Also, only the K701 and LCD2 to me exhibit no grain...all the other cans are grained to my ears.  The K701 sound nice at high volumes and I can adapt well, something I couldn't with other so called "bright" cans.
 
No doubt this is due to the K701s treble presentation.  It seems to render the tonality of cymbals more perfectly than my other cans.  The cymbals are well damped and not excessively splashy.  Cymbals sound just a bit too splashy with the LCD2s for me, and just a bit rolled off and grained with the HD650.
 
Using the Phoenix amplifier balanced into the K701.  This is the first high volume test I conducted with the pairing, the K701s are brilliant at high volumes.

You're right,  at high volume the 701/2's can take most of the hps out there in most of the areas, with the right current they even become more balanced a super dynamic compare to the other hps that start to show unbalanced sound presentation and signs of stress all over the sound spectrum. I also find out the more current the more transparent sound you'll get. 
 
I think the K-1000 drivers are glued very gently, so if the glue get dry the drivers start to physically vibrates.

 

[brat]

That EQ should work well, but the problem I find with the K701 is that it doesn't respond well with more EQ .  Trying to skew the center of tonal balance lower by boosting or cutting bass or treble respectively shrinks the soundstage a lot....Then the K701s start to sound really SLOW...

?! What equalizer do you use? The implemented in foobar doesnt't affect anything but the tonal balance.

 

[Sort]

You know it's easy for me to be cranking up the electric volts and volume for the my 702s to the point that when I take them off, I'm actually shocked by how much sound is leaking out. Other people  in my house have been known to come dancing into my room. I'm curious if folks get a dynamic presence at lower volumes, though I haven't combed through this thread to be honest.

 

[Lurkumaural]

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I'm curious if folks get a dynamic presence at lower volumes.

 
Not nearly enough IMO.  I mean, it's there and it sounds good, but they really take off when I crank them up.  Not just loud, but energetic and brisk and nicely imaged (and loud).
 
Presuming we're talking about the same thing.  My audiophile lexicon is still developing.
 
 

 

[3rdhalf]

Great thread! I was curious about these cans for awhile and have been going through all the pages and want a set even more now

 

[PelPix]

I have a full correction model for the k702.  You guys should see a release in the next couple days.  It requires Voxengo's GlissEQ to apply the effect.

 

[hearMotion]

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I have a full correction model for the k702.  You guys should see a release in the next couple days.  It requires Voxengo's GlissEQ to apply the effect.

Cant wait - I have been trying to perfect an electri-q curve for a while and never quite got it. Your GlissEQ examples posted before were pretty mindblowing!

 

[VALIENTE]

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It seems to render the tonality of cymbals more perfectly than my other cans.  The cymbals are well damped and not excessively splashy.  Cymbals sound just a bit too splashy with the LCD2s for me, and just a bit rolled off and grained with the HD650.
 

Yes I do love also the cymbals of the K701.