HiBy R1 $85 CS43131 DAP Released!

[Joe Bloggs]

Factory reset does not touch the SD card but removing it before you do so does not hurt.

What I do not get is that the music database is not saved to/stored on the SD card but on the internal memory.

The database belongs to music on the card. If you switch cards, the database is useless. It is a weird design choice.

Maybe I am the only user with multiple SD cards.

It's harder to program and storage on the SD cards is slower which may affect performance. It is being looked into.

 

[endgame4]

It's harder to program and storage on the SD cards is slower which may affect performance. It is being looked into.

But you have very skilled developers!

Internal memory is not fast either and it will wear down. Though the battery will probably wear faster.

All those Linux-based DAP’s seem to do it the same way, maybe it is just ‘the way’.

 

[XTF1]

What I do not get is that the music database is not saved to/stored on the SD card but on the internal memory.

I would actually hate that: I swap SD cards from DAP to DAP from time to time, and I don’t want a DAP—say the R1–to mess with my SD or writes its sh… stuff… on my SD.

 

[Joe Bloggs]

I would actually hate that: I swap SD cards from DAP to DAP from time to time, and I don’t want a DAP—say the R1–to mess with my SD or writes its sh… stuff… on my SD.

I mean... presumably it writing metadata to the SD wouldn't prevent said SD from being read by another system and who knows even write another set of metadata to it if it came to that (where more than one system developed this theoretical capability that currently nobody has)?

 

[endgame4]

I would actually hate that: I swap SD cards from DAP to DAP from time to time, and I don’t want a DAP—say the R1–to mess with my SD or writes its sh… stuff… on my SD.

And those DAPs are not yours?

I do not really see why writing a music database file to an SD card is a major problem.

It is just my opinion and preference that the database file belongs with the music. This option does not exist anyway so it is not problem either.

 

[XTF1]

I mean... presumably it writing metadata to the SD wouldn't prevent said SD from being read by another system and who knows even write another set of metadata to it if it came to that (where more than one system developed this theoretical capability that currently nobody has)?

You’re right... as long as this metadata is just that, metadata. Should HiBy go in that direction, could you guarantee that, after a while, my “R1-II” (R1-II: the future replacement for R1) will not cause my OG R1 to crash if I swap the SD?
"I would hate..." was probably too strong, I was merely pointing that writing the DB & metadata onto the SD itself is not necessarily the best option, it has its pros and cons.

 

[XTF1]

And those DAPs are not yours?

I do not really see why writing a music database file to an SD card is a major problem.

It is just my opinion and preference that the database file belongs with the music. This option does not exist anyway so it is not problem either.

Yes they are mine, and you are correct it wouldn't be a problem as long as writing the database onto the SD does not prevent its use by another DAP.
The database file is related to both the music files and the DAP. I don't think Hiby's DB structure & metadatsa is the same as Shanling DB structure & metadata. I am not even sure if it's the same between a HiBy R1 and say a HiBy R4.

 

[endgame4]

Yes they are mine, and you are correct it wouldn't be a problem as long as writing the database onto the SD does not prevent its use by another DAP.
The database file is related to both the music files and the DAP. I don't think Hiby's DB structure & metadatsa is the same as Shanling DB structure & metadata. I am not even sure if it's the same between a HiBy R1 and say a HiBy R4.

Got it, misunderstood your post. Writing stuff to the SD card that interferes with the use in other devices would be very annoying.

I have no idea how this currently works for the R1 but I imagine the music database could be as simple as a single file (for example an SQLite database containing the ID3 data of the files) that unless the name is exactly the same as used by another DAP, it should not conflict. That’s I how I would do it, but I am not a DAP manufacturer/programmer.

Hopefully it would not be like Windows writing hidden ‘thumbs.db’ files everywhere or OSX writing .DS_Store files.

 

[XTF1]

I have no idea how this currently works for the R1 but I imagine the music database could be as simple as a single file (for example an SQLite database containing the ID3 data of the files) that unless the name is exactly the same as used by another DAP, it should not conflict. That’s I how I would do it, but I am not a DAP manufacturer/programmer.

I thought I read somewhere that HiByMusic--Android & non-Android DAPs--was indeed using a SQLite database. But I am not sure the DB is structured exactly the same way across all HiBy's DAPs... even if they may use the same SQlite file name...

Hopefully it would not be like Windows writing hidden ‘thumbs.db’ files everywhere or OSX writing .DS_Store files.

That's exactly what I was thinking... How much efforts have been dedicated to "fix" software & apps interfering with each other in Windows?
Sure a music database & metadata is a much simpler case/scenario... but the risk still exists!

 

[XTF1]

I just received my white R1 (don’t need it, but yuno ). Updated to V1.1, popped a (cheap) 1TB Silicon Power sd with all my track, scan… Everything looks fine!

I like the colorful UI, it reminds me a little the OG R2. Checked AirPlay from my iPhone, no issue.

Something is not right about the clock time zones: UTC-3:00 and UTC-4:00 give the same time, UTC-5:00 and UTC-6:00 jump 2 hours l, and I can’t get the correct hour for my time zone, UTC-6:00…

EDIT: the time zone setting “magically” fixed itself… Didn’t change anything in the settings, but after I fired it up, it is now correct…??????

 

[Przemol]

Hello, after great enthusiasm connected with the purchase of the player and positive impressions connected with the sound quality, I like my Hiby R1 less and less, there are still problems with the song database, error 13, or the player hangs. The problem concerns various cards 32, 128, 256 and 512 GB. On my second Sony player there are no problems.

 

[anli]

Hello, after great enthusiasm connected with the purchase of the player and positive impressions connected with the sound quality, I like my Hiby R1 less and less, there are still problems with the song database, error 13, or the player hangs. The problem concerns various cards 32, 128, 256 and 512 GB. On my second Sony player there are no problems.

Agree, it's time to release the next firmware version - all outstanding bugs were reported.

(just to clarify - at my case no problems withh SD, but I never scan it)

 

[JimiMack]

Hello, after great enthusiasm connected with the purchase of the player and positive impressions connected with the sound quality, I like my Hiby R1 less and less, there are still problems with the song database, error 13, or the player hangs. The problem concerns various cards 32, 128, 256 and 512 GB. On my second Sony player there are no problems.

See now I have not had any of those issues with my R1. And it is not fair to compare HiBy to Sony. Hiby is doing what they can but do not have the R&D or resources of a Sony.

 

[marekm]

And it is not fair to compare HiBy to Sony. Hiby is doing what they can but do not have the R&D or resources of a Sony.

This is something you could say about a young child unable (understandably) to keep up with the big boys, but not about a company. Hiby has decided to sell us DAPs (among other stuff) in return for our hard earned money. They have to deliver.

 

[gratesmanes]

huge issue with connecting to airpods pro gen 1 , gen 2 and , anc 4th gen
connect - no sound , if there is sound is just one song , leave it to for the next song , no sound anymore , disconnect fiddle with the codecs you get again sound for 1 song , this really needs to be fixed , i'm considering returning this device altough i really like it
i did not have these issues with Airpods Pro Max , or SONY XM5 Or Bose QC35 , but airpods pro are most commonly used and most comfy , can this be fixed.
this same issues happens also on Shanling M1 Plus device.
Please fix this i want to KEEP MY DEVICE.