the only issue with mesa boogie, except the older models, is that they strip the midrange out of guitar (and the guitar IS a midrange focused instrument) in alot of peoples' opinion, especially those who enjoy the vintage sounds made from 1968-1985 by other amp manufacturers. That's why mesa is not discussed on either of those vintage type amp forums much if at all. You can tell by my name-sake how much I'm devoted to keeping midrange alive and well in a society that devalues just about anything in the middle, tone being just one example. The world is going faster and faster, the universe is expanding, all the problems getting more extreme, people becoming more divided. I live simple, get back to basics, worship the middle......The magnum is an exception to the distrubing trends, it manages to achive both detail and midrange warmth. And that's rare ime. Most often midrange warmth is sacrificed in the name of 'detail'. When you scoop out the midrange, sure things can appear more detailed, but also less human and musical. Mesa suffers form this imo. Although one of my favorite players, dave meniketti from Y&T manages to use an old mesa tremoverb to great affect and warmth. So does carlos santana. Anywho, back to magnum discusion. In my mind it all relates, but not many would be interested in this particular association. short story, mags can do rock'n roll justice. Others can testify to other genres.