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Nov 30, 2016 at 1:01 PM Post #33,858 of 65,623
clundbe said:
By the way, I own a pair of the golden 325 and never heard another 325. Is there a different sound between the golden vs silver 325?
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The gold are 325i series which were introduced in 2006 as an "Anniversary Edition" and are said to be the brightest of all the 325 series. Check out the comparison chart @ruthieandjohn made about the different 325 series.
 
Nov 30, 2016 at 2:08 PM Post #33,859 of 65,623
Dec 1, 2016 at 10:35 PM Post #33,862 of 65,623
ruthieandjohn said:
Normally, I would think so, too, as the -e series across the line increases the bass over the -i series,

However, as the brightest Grado headphone, the SR325e, though bossier than the SR325i, for me ends up having the same amount of subbass as the SR225i, which makes sense to me because the SR225 line is overall less bright than the SR325 line.

Hence, for me, the greater bass of the SR325e over the SR325i is compensated by the greater bass of the Sr225 line over the SR325 line.
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Unless the 325e I have is an outlier as far as bass is concerned (I'd have to listen to another pair to confirm that though) The 325e has more bass than the 225i / 225e and the 325is.... and it isn't even close. I'd have to EQ the other cans about 4-5db in the 50-125 range to get the same bass extension / impact... and even then it just isn't the same. I have the RS2e and they have even more bass than the 325e (not a whole lot more but enough to notice). The 325e and RS2e (both red drivers) are very very close in their presentation of music with the R2e being slightly warmer and adding a touch more low end.
 
Dec 1, 2016 at 10:37 PM Post #33,863 of 65,623
sling5s said:
For those looking for fully closed grado cans or wanting the planer magnetic bass with a grado like sound.

I just recently purchased a pair of ZMF Vibro MK ll because I heard it took advantage of the forward mids of Fostex T50rp.
But when I received it, I felt the bass ( sub and mid bass) was way too much.
My other headphones are HD800 and Grado (customs). So you can understand how overwhelmed I was by the bass.
But I felt it had the potential to give me the sound I was looking for. 

So I took out most of the foam in the cups and replaced with with four layers of teased cotton.
This decreased and really tightened the bass. While at the same time making the upper mids more forward and making the treble more airy and sparkly.

What I have now is a closed "grado" like headphone. This has the LCD-2 (w/fazor) like bass and the mids and treble of grado.
Really digging it. 
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Very interesting... consider my interest piqued. The closest closed option for a Grado I've heard is the Senn HD-25 II.
 
Dec 1, 2016 at 10:44 PM Post #33,865 of 65,623
sling5s said:
Yeah...I tried several Fostex T50rp modding projects but I had the hardest time controlling the resonance and bass.
The plastic baffle was the problem. But with ZMF wooden cups, it fixes the problem. So its possible to get a controlled, tight bass with forward mids. Just need to use the right amount of cotton to your desired taste for mids and treble. 

For me it was worth it because I got a used pair of Vibro MK ll. I would not have done with with a new pair but I felt it was worth trying on a used pair. 
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How much influence does the tonewood used have on the sound?
 
Dec 2, 2016 at 7:02 PM Post #33,866 of 65,623
Dec 2, 2016 at 10:12 PM Post #33,867 of 65,623
Hi, noticed some interest in the GS2000e. I had initially purchased the Sennheiser HD800S but it broke in two days, and after seeing the innards of it, was disenchanted enough to switch to the Grado.
 
I'll be blunt: the stock GS2000e sound SUCKS. There's no bass, and the mids are super recessed. But the GS2000e for me is spectacular once EQed, and I couldn't EQ my replacement HD800S well enough to achieve the same magic. Coupled with the GS2000e's superior comfort, it won out. I originally had it at 31hz/62hz/1khz/2khz: +3dB, but after more critical listening, settled on this: 31hz/62hz: +6dB, 125hz: -2dB, 1khz/2khz: +4dB, 8khz: -2dB

Bass is much more defined than the plastic vented SR60e I owned. The plastic shell vibrated when there was any bass, but on the GS2000e, the wood is sturdy enough for me to not feel any vibrations at all. The GS2000e has 4 vented holes. I am almost considering attempting to open it up to punch more holes into it, but the mahogany and maple are fused right at the seam. Using the EQ is good enough anyway. With the EQ, it's an awesome endgame headphone for me, so I guess I'm in the club. Thank you for having me.
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 5:37 AM Post #33,868 of 65,623
Dec 3, 2016 at 8:01 AM Post #33,869 of 65,623
gippy said:
Hi, noticed some interest in the GS2000e. I had initially purchased the Sennheiser HD800S but it broke in two days, and after seeing the innards of it, was disenchanted enough to switch to the Grado.

I'll be blunt: the stock GS2000e sound SUCKS. There's no bass, and the mids are super recessed. But the GS2000e for me is spectacular once EQed, and I couldn't EQ my replacement HD800S well enough to achieve the same magic. Coupled with the GS2000e's superior comfort, it won out. I originally had it at 31hz/62hz/1khz/2khz: +3dB, but after more critical listening, settled on this: 31hz/62hz: +6dB, 125hz: -2dB, 1khz/2khz: +4dB, 8khz: -2dB


Bass is much more defined than the plastic vented SR60e I owned. The plastic shell vibrated when there was any bass, but on the GS2000e, the wood is sturdy enough for me to not feel any vibrations at all. The GS2000e has 4 vented holes. I am almost considering attempting to open it up to punch more holes into it, but the mahogany and maple are fused right at the seam. Using the EQ is good enough anyway. With the EQ, it's an awesome endgame headphone for me, so I guess I'm in the club. Thank you for having me.
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Never heard the GS2000s, but am quite addicted to the sound of the HF2s... Enough to know that I couldn't EQ the qualities of the uppermids from any of the cans I have at hand.

Those HF2s have the best uppermids of all my headphones.
 
Dec 3, 2016 at 10:31 AM Post #33,870 of 65,623
sp wild said:
Never heard the GS2000s, but am quite addicted to the sound of the HF2s... Enough to know that I couldn't EQ the qualities of the uppermids from any of the cans I have at hand.

Those HF2s have the best uppermids of all my headphones.
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I've always said theres nothing like Grado's mid-range! 
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