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Apr 1, 2022 at 5:15 PM Post #51,901 of 66,264
I just received a new PS500e and a few pairs of TTVJ ‘flats’. Off went the L-pads, on went the flats….A great combination: airy, detailed, exciting, panoramic, punchy! If I were an audio recording engineer, I would not hesitate to use these for my work! P.S. why even use the L-pads? ‘Cupped’ sound and not comfortable.
My, my, that stack always looks good. Enjoyable to see the new actors "on stage." Anxious to hear how the PS500e breaks in for you. Those last PS500e's supposedly have an upgrade driver. That certainly would make your timing spot on.
 
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Apr 1, 2022 at 5:16 PM Post #51,902 of 66,264
It's still the same. The image below is from a Headphonia review. The wood inner cup is reserved for the PS500 I'd imagine.

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They're fantastic *with* EQ, otherwise too shouty. If you don't have EQ, comfies and a recable will help with the balance. The Alessandro MS-2 are warmer. If the PS500 is too expensive, the Alessandro MS-2 are probably the second best Grado value/sweet spot IMHO. They are still somehow $299 after all these years.



I knew something was off when I tried the Hemps. The Grado flat pad isn't as nice, TTVJ is definitely better. It's costly though for a bit of foam :wink:
Thought so, thanks for the pic. Ah yes - Alessandros! Glad to see they're still made. And yes, much wow on the price keeping steady after all these years. What a nostalgia trip! MS-2 w/ TTVJ deluxe might be fun, for sure.
 
Apr 1, 2022 at 5:18 PM Post #51,903 of 66,264
My, my, that stack always looks good. Enjoyable to see the new actors "on stage." Anxious to hear how the PS500e breaks in for you. Those last PS500e's supposedly has an upgrade driver. That certainly would make your timing spot on.
PS I have been running my early 500e and RS1e with original Grado flats and am liking both. Worth checking out I think........
 
Apr 1, 2022 at 5:39 PM Post #51,904 of 66,264
So I have had music running in my new RS1x for a week or so. And admittedly (but not not unexpectedly) they sound much better now. Mostly the sound doesn't have the edges, that I heard out of the box. Ok so to night, I started out with the stock L pads. In general, they are not too uncomfortable to me, but I was curious to pad roll. So firstly, I tried the G pads. Similarly to the GH2s and the Hemps, I don't think they do any overall good to the sound. Yes indeed, more stage but less presence (oomph). Right now I am trying the F pads (not sure if they are deluxe or not - there should be a dot on the deluxe - right?). Wow, they do indeed make the RS1x shine - just like the hemps - but in an apparently more controlled way. Will keep the flats on for the next days. (Haven't yet compared with my other Grado's)...
 
Apr 1, 2022 at 5:49 PM Post #51,905 of 66,264
That's not a problem. I have 4 pairs of upper-line Stax and an L3000 I haven't been using for a while and sometimes forget I still have :sweat_smile:
I recently pulled out a AKG K340 that had been in the closet for almost 15 years (it rocks).
…One of the most fun aspects of this hobby is a headphone (or amp or cable or all) variety. Putting a headphone back in the ‘active’ listening rotation after a long hiatus is often exciting and revelatory - almost like getting a new headphone without 💸…So when I read about culling the headphone herd (Shane…),…😒
 
Apr 1, 2022 at 6:16 PM Post #51,906 of 66,264
…One of the most fun aspects of this hobby is a headphone (or amp or cable or all) variety. Putting a headphone back in the ‘active’ listening rotation after a long hiatus is often exciting and revelatory - almost like getting a new headphone without 💸…So when I read about culling the headphone herd (Shane…),…😒
Yes, but I have too much “Stuff”. It is not this hobby alone but I have one worse than the headphones and a couple of lesser ones…. But, boy is it Fun!
 

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Apr 1, 2022 at 6:27 PM Post #51,907 of 66,264
That was the last one 😢. The TTVJ deluxe flats basically trounce the standard Grado flats. At this point, I use / will use the deluxe flats with Hemp, PS500e, RS1x, GS3000e (sometimes); the G-pads: GS3000e (sometimes), PS2000e (always). 🤷🏻‍♂️

So what is the difference between the TTVJ standard flats ($25) and the TTVJ deluxe flats ($50), besides $25?
 
Apr 1, 2022 at 6:43 PM Post #51,908 of 66,264
Yes, but I have too much “Stuff”. It is not this hobby alone but I have one worse than the headphones and a couple of lesser ones…. But, boy is it Fun!
Holy mackerel..... I can see your challenge:scream::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: You must live in a big place? Hope you enjoy every bit....:relaxed:
 
Apr 1, 2022 at 6:56 PM Post #51,909 of 66,264
…One of the most fun aspects of this hobby is a headphone (or amp or cable or all) variety. Putting a headphone back in the ‘active’ listening rotation after a long hiatus is often exciting and revelatory - almost like getting a new headphone without 💸…So when I read about culling the headphone herd (Shane…),…😒
I have culled my collection hugely! From ten sets to seven and I am thinking of going to six. I could never imagine more than two of one brand though. But of course personal preferences are what drive this hobby.

Still thinking of the RS1x's though...:ksc75smile:
 
Apr 1, 2022 at 7:06 PM Post #51,910 of 66,264
I have culled my collection hugely! From ten sets to seven and I am thinking of going to six. I could never imagine more than two of one brand though. But of course personal preferences are what drive this hobby.

Still thinking of the RS1x's though...:ksc75smile:
Six - what an ambition - will think/dream of that: Besides my 7 Grado's, I also have HD650, Stellia, Arya, B&O H6, H7, H95...not talking about iems....Sad, sad addiction, should see someone .... soon - But I do love my new RS1X though:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
 
Apr 1, 2022 at 7:09 PM Post #51,911 of 66,264
So what is the difference between the TTVJ standard flats ($25) and the TTVJ deluxe flats ($50), besides $25?
The deluxe pads are made of slightly firmer and more resilient foam, somewhat apparent when pinched or pressed. And they magically sound better. Other than that, they're visually identical. Obviously the foam density and porosity will affect its acoustic properties. I'd like to think Todd ordered a large range of foams/treatments and trialed which one sounds best for Grados.
 
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Apr 1, 2022 at 7:12 PM Post #51,912 of 66,264
So what is the difference between the TTVJ standard flats ($25) and the TTVJ deluxe flats ($50), besides $25?
For me, comfort and a better mix of sound diffusion and sound ‘impact’.
 
Apr 1, 2022 at 9:11 PM Post #51,914 of 66,264
That was the last one 😢. The TTVJ deluxe flats basically trounce the standard Grado flats. At this point, I use / will use the deluxe flats with Hemp, PS500e, RS1x, GS3000e (sometimes); the G-pads: GS3000e (sometimes), PS2000e (always). 🤷🏻‍♂️
Hemps come with deluxe pads. I actually bought the deluxe pads and compared them…EXACTLY the same!
 
Apr 1, 2022 at 9:14 PM Post #51,915 of 66,264
The deluxe pads are made of slightly firmer and more resilient foam, somewhat apparent when pinched or pressed. And they magically sound better. Other than that, they're visually identical. Obviously the foam density and porosity will affect its acoustic properties. I'd like to think Todd ordered a large range of foams/treatments and trialed which one sounds best for Grados.
Right, it's a little stiffer on the outer part of the pad. It makes the bass attack a little more visceral.

Hemps come with deluxe pads. I actually bought the deluxe pads and compared them…EXACTLY the same!
Unless TTVJ changed the formula recently they are different. You should be able to feel the texture difference.
 
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