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Nov 10, 2021 at 1:06 AM Post #49,381 of 65,686
Interesting. Never heard of that company before?!
Vorzüge is a german word meaning something between asset(s) and advantage(s). Maybe nearer advantages. Their slogan means ‘quantum leap by innovation‘, may be they wanted to say ‘leading by innovation‘ or something like that.
So a german company I never heard of? Arouses curiosity. (Positively)
Vorzüge was pretty popular years ago. I never had one myself but heard them at meets and CanJams. Another German I am hoping will continue to produce amps and DACs is legendary Meier Audio. He is still in business but currently do not create as many new products as he used to. He is having a Christmas sale right now. http://www.meier-audio.homepage.t-online.de/amplifiers.html
His Quickstep pairs great with Grados but his desktop amps are better with higher impedance headphones.
 
Nov 10, 2021 at 1:42 AM Post #49,382 of 65,686
Vorzüge was pretty popular years ago. I never had one myself but heard them at meets and CanJams. Another German I am hoping will continue to produce amps and DACs is legendary Meier Audio. He is still in business but currently do not create as many new products as he used to. He is having a Christmas sale right now. http://www.meier-audio.homepage.t-online.de/amplifiers.html
His Quickstep pairs great with Grados but his desktop amps are better with higher impedance headphones.
They look very promising. What is drawing me back to the Vorzuge the most is it’s ability to sit Under my phone attached with Velcro and has a rechargeable battery that lasts 10 hours. I am probably going to get two amps as I usually would have my amp on longer than that through the day. And hate having to wait for my tunes.
 
Nov 10, 2021 at 2:47 AM Post #49,383 of 65,686
Corda rock`s looks nice.
christmas gift for my self?
 
Nov 10, 2021 at 3:15 AM Post #49,384 of 65,686
I think I might get the quickstep actually. It runs off a 9 volt battery as well as power. I would prefer to have a swap in on the fly battery rather than having to wait a few hours to charge my amp. It also will fit beautifully under my iPhone. Only thing I’m not sure of is if they ship to U.S…
 
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Nov 10, 2021 at 10:20 AM Post #49,385 of 65,686
Well, it took a few years but the new RS1x and RS2x look remarkably like the layered cup design that has been floating around the DIY community for a while now:

https://gradolabs.com/headphones/reference-series/item/133-rs1x?mc_cid=a0097f9e12&mc_eid=ccfe07510c

https://gradolabs.com/headphones/reference-series/item/134-rs2x?mc_cid=a0097f9e12&mc_eid=ccfe07510c

For the record, the first person I saw do this was thelostMIDrange (no longer a member). Glad they are doing it...the layering looks good, and can impart a nice tone, combining the best parts of each wood picked.
 
Nov 10, 2021 at 10:29 AM Post #49,386 of 65,686
Well, it took a few years but the new RS1x and RS2x look remarkably like the layered cup design that has been floating around the DIY community for a while now:

https://gradolabs.com/headphones/reference-series/item/133-rs1x?mc_cid=a0097f9e12&mc_eid=ccfe07510c

https://gradolabs.com/headphones/reference-series/item/134-rs2x?mc_cid=a0097f9e12&mc_eid=ccfe07510c

For the record, the first person I saw do this was thelostMIDrange (no longer a member). Glad they are doing it...the layering looks good, and can impart a nice tone, combining the best parts of each wood picked.
It’s almost like Grado started to finally pay attention to all the aftermarket cups (DIY) and drivers and learn from it.

I imagine at some point, those who make and sell aftermarket drivers will offer the more older traditional Grado sound signature of the past for those who liked and want more upper midrange and treble.
 
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Nov 10, 2021 at 10:50 AM Post #49,387 of 65,686
It’s almost like Grado started to finally pay attention to all the aftermarket cups (DIY) and drivers and learn from it.

I imagine at some point, those who make and sell aftermarket drivers will offer the more older traditional Grado sound signature of the past for those who liked and want more upper midrange and treble.

Agreed. I guess us aftermarket guys will need to get creative and start with the next series of innovations...

For that older Grado signature, Elleven Acoustica already does their P1 driver, which is meant to emulate the HP1 headphone. Its definitely something worth keeping an eye on, especially as pink driver versions of vintage Grado get scarcer.
 
Nov 10, 2021 at 11:23 AM Post #49,388 of 65,686
Agreed. I guess us aftermarket guys will need to get creative and start with the next series of innovations...

For that older Grado signature, Elleven Acoustica already does their P1 driver, which is meant to emulate the HP1 headphone. Its definitely something worth keeping an eye on, especially as pink driver versions of vintage Grado get scarcer.
I guess not that old. Not so much the Jospeh Grado sound signature but the early John Grado "classic buttoned" versions and "i" series sound signature. For example, there are and will be those here who prefer the "i and e" (except rs1e which kind of a poor precursor and Hemp a more successful version of the "x" series) over the "x".
 
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Nov 10, 2021 at 2:26 PM Post #49,389 of 65,686
Vorzüge was pretty popular years ago. I never had one myself but heard them at meets and CanJams. Another German I am hoping will continue to produce amps and DACs is legendary Meier Audio. He is still in business but currently do not create as many new products as he used to. He is having a Christmas sale right now. http://www.meier-audio.homepage.t-online.de/amplifiers.html
His Quickstep pairs great with Grados but his desktop amps are better with higher impedance headphones.
Insider: Go for a used Corda Classic FF. It‘s hard to find, but incredibly good sounding. On par with a Lehmann Linear SE. Very high resolution, a (slightly) touch less than the Lehmann, but more lively.
 
Nov 10, 2021 at 5:13 PM Post #49,390 of 65,686
I guess not that old. Not so much the Jospeh Grado sound signature but the early John Grado "classic buttoned" versions and "i" series sound signature. For example, there are and will be those here who prefer the "i and e" (except rs1e which kind of a poor precursor and Hemp a more successful version of the "x" series) over the "x".
Sounds wonderful. The rf noise eliminator for iPhones is what really sings to me. I bet it sounds fantastic!
 
Nov 10, 2021 at 8:21 PM Post #49,391 of 65,686
I added a suede ZMF Pilot Pad to my Hemp. After adjusting each side down a bit, added pad and comfort is much improved! I usually never buy anything with velcro on it, just a overall horrible worst sound in the world, but exception made. Recommended addition.
 

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Nov 10, 2021 at 9:50 PM Post #49,393 of 65,686
Quick impression is that these are the best Grados I’ve heard straight out of the box. Detailed, but not sibilant. It’s missing the larger soundstage and extra bass I had with the Empyreans, but it’s great so far for the price.

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A ’Coke bottle‘ tube on a Lyr? Intriguing!
What is it?
 
Nov 10, 2021 at 9:52 PM Post #49,394 of 65,686
Quick impression is that these are the best Grados I’ve heard straight out of the box. Detailed, but not sibilant. It’s missing the larger soundstage and extra bass I had with the Empyreans, but it’s great so far for the price.

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Hmm…”straight out of the box” ==> improve over time 😀
 
Nov 10, 2021 at 9:58 PM Post #49,395 of 65,686
Quick impression is that these are the best Grados I’ve heard straight out of the box. Detailed, but not sibilant. It’s missing the larger soundstage and extra bass I had with the Empyreans, but it’s great so far for the price.

4ECBE04B-FD79-4EF5-A6C1-F8EFFDF54B83.jpeg
This in the Lyr…?
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