Jul 18, 2019 at 12:22 PM Post #9,121 of 70,142
About to pull the trigger on the Mpow T5 but I have one question on battery duration. On their product page, they claim 7 hour battery life for music on a single charge. But scrolling down, they claim 6 and then 5 hours in the product description blurb.

Anyone have confirmation of average battery duration?
 
Jul 18, 2019 at 12:25 PM Post #9,122 of 70,142
No but I've found some on eBay that will ship to the UK. Are they basically the same ones then?
From various youtube videos it seems the same type of SQ. I have not heard them yet. I'd go for it though. What is the cheapest you've seen them for??
 
Jul 18, 2019 at 12:30 PM Post #9,123 of 70,142
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From various youtube videos it seems the same type of SQ. I have not heard them yet. I'd go for it though. What is the cheapest you've seen them for??
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-...18+headphones&qid=1563467078&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Another pair. On Amazon UK.
Are these all the same lol.
And the prices on eBay are in the pic
 
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Jul 18, 2019 at 12:34 PM Post #9,124 of 70,142
Jul 18, 2019 at 1:15 PM Post #9,125 of 70,142
I'd like to hear which ones at less than half the price sound better than the MTW.


Me three.

Keep in mind all of this is highly subjective, as we all know one person's ideal signature is another person's bloated bass cannon or bright and brittle presentation.

Full disclosure: I primarily listen to my 2-channel stereo setup at home in a fully treated listening room with Dirac room correction, so my personal preference is for accuracy, natural tonality, and clarity/detail retrieval. This results in something similar to a Harman frequency response. With that said, strong YMMV qualifier:

Purely in terms of sound quality, I thought the MTW were decent, but simply not as good as the Mavin Air-X which is selling for $120 right now, and has become my gold standard in TW IEMs. The Mavins are a warmish take on neutral with the best clarity and detail retrieval of any TW model I've tried. They're balanced and neutral throughout the frequency response with a tastefully elevated bass and an extended treble that's among the most natural-sounding I've heard from any IEM. The Senns sounded somewhat U-shaped in terms of frequency response which resulted in a sound that was too aggressive for my taste, and weren't as good as the Air-X in terms of imaging and separation. Even after trying to use the Sennheiser app's EQ feature (which isn't the best... give me a real banded EQ) they never sounded right and sounded cold to my ears. Solely based on sound quality, the Air-X are significantly better IMO. Beyond that, add in the Air-X's 10-hour battery life, a case that stores a ridiculous amount of charges (I charge it maybe once every few weeks), Qualcomm TrueWireless Stereo Plus, and bug-free operation out of the box, you're really only missing firmware updates and a dedicated app (which tbh I couldn't get working consistently with the MTW when I owned it).

I ended up returning the MTW because of the battery drain/charging situation, the flimsy hinge on the case, the app that worked infrequently for me (YMMV), the goofy EQ functionality, and the fact that even when working flawlessly the Sennheiser isn't even capable of battery life to last a cross-country flight, and I simply don't understand how they can be asking $300 considering all the competition on the market. I even preferred the sound signature of the Bose SoundSport Free, although the MTW was better in terms of detail retrieval, connectivity reliability and passive noise isolation.

I have no problem shelling out for an expensive TW IEM if it's worth it, but I just found the Sennheiser had too many compromises, and I consider myself a fan of Sennheiser in general. I hope they improve their second gen product whenever they get around to making one. The MTW I very much see as among the best of the "TW 1.0" generation true wireless IEMs, whereas the "2nd gen" TW models coming out now are a significant step forward in terms of battery life, ease of use, and in many cases sound quality.
 
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Jul 18, 2019 at 1:25 PM Post #9,126 of 70,142
Keep in mind all of this is highly subjective, as we all know one person's ideal signature is another person's bloated bass cannon or bright and brittle presentation.

Full disclosure: I primarily listen to my 2-channel stereo setup at home in a fully treated listening room with Dirac room correction, so my personal preference is for accuracy, natural tonality, and clarity/detail retrieval. This results in something similar to a Harman frequency response. With that said, strong YMMV qualifier:

Purely in terms of sound quality, I thought the MTW were decent, but simply not as good as the Mavin Air-X which is selling for $120 right now, and has become my gold standard in TW IEMs. The Mavins are a warmish take on neutral with the best clarity and detail retrieval of any TW model I've tried. They're balanced and neutral throughout the frequency response with a tastefully elevated bass and an extended treble that's among the most natural-sounding I've heard from any IEM. The Senns sounded somewhat U-shaped in terms of frequency response which resulted in a sound that was too aggressive for my taste, and weren't as good as the Air-X in terms of imaging and separation. Even after trying to use the Sennheiser app's EQ feature (which isn't the best... give me a real banded EQ) they never sounded right and sounded cold to my ears. Solely based on sound quality, the Air-X are significantly better IMO. Beyond that, add in the Air-X's 10-hour battery life, a case that stores a ridiculous amount of charges (I charge it maybe once every few weeks), Qualcomm TrueWireless Stereo Plus, and bug-free operation out of the box, you're really only missing firmware updates and a dedicated app (which tbh I couldn't get working consistently with the MTW when I owned it).

I ended up returning the MTW because of the battery drain/charging situation, the flimsy hinge on the case, the app that worked infrequently for me (YMMV), the goofy EQ functionality, and the fact that even when working flawlessly the Sennheiser isn't even capable of battery life to last a cross-country flight, and I simply don't understand how they can be asking $300 considering all the competition on the market. I even preferred the sound signature of the Bose SoundSport Free, although the MTW was better in terms of connectivity reliability and passive noise isolation.

I have no problem shelling out for an expensive TW IEM if it's worth it, but I just found the Sennheiser had too many compromises, and I consider myself a fan of Sennheiser in general. I hope they improve their second gen product whenever they get around to making one. The MTW I very much see as a "TW 1.0" generation product, whereas the "2nd gen" TW models coming out now are a significant step forward in terms of sound quality, battery life, and ease of use.

After reading this great review reminds me so much how the Mavin might sound very similar like my Anbes 359 which also has a good soundstage (5hr battery). I wish I had the money after seeing this has a ten hr battery. Thanks for the review.
 
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Jul 18, 2019 at 1:30 PM Post #9,127 of 70,142
After reading this great review reminds me so much how the Mavin might sound very similar like the Anbes 359. I wish I had the money after seeing this has a ten hr battery. Thanks for the review.

Happy to help. Again, I want to emphasize that everyone hears differently and I think the MTW is great in terms of sound (and can't blame anyone for enjoying and keeping them, especially if they're fixing issues in firmware updates), but I think there are better products on the market. Plus, I'm sure there are a lot more products coming out in the near future that will make waves.
 
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Jul 18, 2019 at 1:33 PM Post #9,128 of 70,142
Keep in mind all of this is highly subjective, as we all know one person's ideal signature is another person's bloated bass cannon or bright and brittle presentation.

Full disclosure: I primarily listen to my 2-channel stereo setup at home in a fully treated listening room with Dirac room correction, so my personal preference is for accuracy, natural tonality, and clarity/detail retrieval. This results in something similar to a Harman frequency response. With that said, strong YMMV qualifier:

Purely in terms of sound quality, I thought the MTW were decent, but simply not as good as the Mavin Air-X which is selling for $120 right now, and has become my gold standard in TW IEMs. The Mavins are a warmish take on neutral with the best clarity and detail retrieval of any TW model I've tried. They're balanced and neutral throughout the frequency response with a tastefully elevated bass and an extended treble that's among the most natural-sounding I've heard from any IEM. The Senns sounded somewhat U-shaped in terms of frequency response which resulted in a sound that was too aggressive for my taste, and weren't as good as the Air-X in terms of imaging and separation. Even after trying to use the Sennheiser app's EQ feature (which isn't the best... give me a real banded EQ) they never sounded right and sounded cold to my ears. Solely based on sound quality, the Air-X are significantly better IMO. Beyond that, add in the Air-X's 10-hour battery life, a case that stores a ridiculous amount of charges (I charge it maybe once every few weeks), Qualcomm TrueWireless Stereo Plus, and bug-free operation out of the box, you're really only missing firmware updates and a dedicated app (which tbh I couldn't get working consistently with the MTW when I owned it).

I ended up returning the MTW because of the battery drain/charging situation, the flimsy hinge on the case, the app that worked infrequently for me (YMMV), the goofy EQ functionality, and the fact that even when working flawlessly the Sennheiser isn't even capable of battery life to last a cross-country flight, and I simply don't understand how they can be asking $300 considering all the competition on the market. I even preferred the sound signature of the Bose SoundSport Free, although the MTW was better in terms of connectivity reliability and passive noise isolation.

I have no problem shelling out for an expensive TW IEM if it's worth it, but I just found the Sennheiser had too many compromises, and I consider myself a fan of Sennheiser in general. I hope they improve their second gen product whenever they get around to making one. The MTW I very much see as a "TW 1.0" generation product, whereas the "2nd gen" TW models coming out now are a significant step forward in terms of sound quality, battery life, and ease of use.

Makes me wish I had room for the Air-x in my budget.... thanks for sharing!
 
Jul 18, 2019 at 2:36 PM Post #9,129 of 70,142
About to pull the trigger on the Mpow T5 but I have one question on battery duration. On their product page, they claim 7 hour battery life for music on a single charge. But scrolling down, they claim 6 and then 5 hours in the product description blurb.

Anyone have confirmation of average battery duration?

I haven't done a formal testing, but when I got them the other day I gave it a full charge, then let it play until they died and got between 6-7 hours (around noon until sometime after 6pm)
 
Jul 18, 2019 at 2:51 PM Post #9,131 of 70,142
What kind of tips have been fitting and sounding the best on the MPOW T5?

Anyone know what Comply foam size fits them best?
Depends. For me, the default M fit well, but I also go with the tips from my Sabbat E12.
 
Jul 18, 2019 at 2:55 PM Post #9,132 of 70,142
Well, listing's Amazon seller says:

Q: Do they have volume control? Please don't answer to say use your phone's volume control.
A:
Yes.
Double press the MFB button of the left earbud to decrease the volume;
Double press the MFB button of the right earbud to increase the volume.
By Topyo Pro Customer Service on July 17, 2019

I'm getting them tomorrow, so we'll see. If vol control is indeed there it'll be royally stupid on their part to omit this from description. My stance on vol control is opposite of yours. When I do crunches or lift weights I put my phone aside because I already once crushed it. I also hate blindly hunting for vol buttons when I'm fighting it out on elliptical or on a stepper. With vol buttons on your buds you always know where they are, it's fast and easy to hit them without loosing balance and looking like you're possessed by fleas or something :).
That's the same seller I got mine from, so you should be receiving the latest version. A few pages back, I posted a video if me increasing the volume just as the seller described.
 
Jul 18, 2019 at 2:59 PM Post #9,133 of 70,142
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-...18+headphones&qid=1563476092&s=gateway&sr=8-4


https://www.amazon.co.uk/LEIYER-Blu...QT4N0BG1R54&psc=1&refRID=Q9H5D307N833PCAPBQ8C


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Headphones...QT4N0BG1R54&psc=1&refRID=39JMDJCNVTTD2TV7BSXM

So now really confused. They all seem the same except the first ones (Fodlon?) Say 4-5 hours and the others 3-4.5 or something. So could any of u clever peeps please take a gander and let me know which of those if any is the closest I'll get to the 359s.

Many thanks
 
Jul 18, 2019 at 3:13 PM Post #9,134 of 70,142
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-...18+headphones&qid=1563476092&s=gateway&sr=8-4


https://www.amazon.co.uk/LEIYER-Blu...QT4N0BG1R54&psc=1&refRID=Q9H5D307N833PCAPBQ8C


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Headphones...QT4N0BG1R54&psc=1&refRID=39JMDJCNVTTD2TV7BSXM

So now really confused. They all seem the same except the first ones (Fodlon?) Say 4-5 hours and the others 3-4.5 or something. So could any of u clever peeps please take a gander and let me know which of those if any is the closest I'll get to the 359s.

Many thanks

#3 has different controls (I believe it's like Cool here, double check in this thread)

#1 refers to them as R18 (see Kissral) and has the blue LEDs on the case, plus the right logo

#2 has different controls, same as with #3

My money is on #1
 
Jul 18, 2019 at 3:15 PM Post #9,135 of 70,142
Thank you! How well do they isolate? Do they fit deep in your ears like traditional IEMs?

They fit and isolate pretty good. They do feel like traditional IEMs. When I first got them, I used medium size Sony Hybrids tips because that's what I usually use with all my IEMs, but I actually went back to the included medium tips that came in the box. I just find them more comfortable and they sound the same as the hybrids.
 

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