Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[RobinFood]

Haven't heard of it... Do you have pictures/link?

And I know there's also the BT20(S)/Fostex+IEM pairings but that doesn't count due to their size. In my opinion anyway

Here they are...

https://www.e-earphone.jp/shop/shopdetail.html?brandcode=000000209236&search=kong+x&sort=price_desc

A balanced armature and a 10 mm dynamic driver. They were pretty bass heavy but still had decent mids and extended highs.
They got really loud. The plastic they are made of was really cheap though.
They are pretty old now, so only used SBS and AAC. They are big, but the case is HUGE.
In the pictures you can use that carabiner clip as a reference.
It doesn't fit pockets. Not even huge clown pockets.

 

[actorlife]

Here they are...

https://www.e-earphone.jp/shop/shopdetail.html?brandcode=000000209236&search=kong+x&sort=price_desc

A balanced armature and a 10 mm dynamic driver. They were pretty bass heavy but still had decent mids and extended highs.
They got really loud. The plastic they are made of was really cheap though.
They are pretty old now, so only used SBS and AAC. They are big, but the case is HUGE.
In the pictures you can use that carabiner clip as a reference.
It doesn't fit pockets. Not even huge clown pockets.

Those look like army tanks. I bet if a car or truck rolled over them they'd be fine. Hopefully the SQ is great.

 

[Luchyres]

For those of you at home keeping track, here are my updates

Tranya T3 are going back - I can detect a very very faint metal resonance on some songs when volume is 2/3 or higher on my pair - and they are prone to position-based cut-outs. The bass kicks the butt of the Anbes, but the issue for me is that the mids are recessed but the highs seem very harsh to me when you turn up the volume. In the end, they're pretty great, but the Anbes are a better all-rounder for me for now.

Otherwise, my bet (and therefore money) is on the Sony WF-1000XM3 - I ordered on Amazon right when they were listed - so I'll let ya'll know when I get 'em.

 

[vstolpner]

Here they are...

https://www.e-earphone.jp/shop/shopdetail.html?brandcode=000000209236&search=kong+x&sort=price_desc

A balanced armature and a 10 mm dynamic driver. They were pretty bass heavy but still had decent mids and extended highs.
They got really loud. The plastic they are made of was really cheap though.
They are pretty old now, so only used SBS and AAC. They are big, but the case is HUGE.
In the pictures you can use that carabiner clip as a reference.
It doesn't fit pockets. Not even huge clown pockets.

Oh wow, they're more like BT20/Fostex.... But look really cool!

 

[FYLegend]

If the BT5.0 S60 is anything like the S80 (Motivation), then at least you can rest assured that connectivity will be just fine.
I didn't find them the best, but very similar to mifo O5. Ironically Anbes 359 still have the best connectivity

The UFO has very stable connection, yes. Very rarely the left bud will drop out and immediately reconnect, it seems to happen more with my laptop than my phone. B9Scrambler said the connection of the S60 BT5.0 is more stable but disconnects on a laptop. What's holding me back is that Astrotec might release another run with a newer chip or S80 with a Type C case soon.

Yep AAC was confirmed by one or two of the guys here. I don't own anything Apple, so I can't check. My android box might have aac cause movies sound great. Anyway I can check on my android box? Hopefully Anbes will release something soon with aptx since the 359 is sold out almost everwhere. I think it's their best seller for them.

Just as you mention that they're sold out I start to see the listings disappear. Looks like they're endangered of extinction! The seller seems reluctant to refund but offered me discount on future purchase, but I don't want another Coolhere or rebrand if it ends up defective again. They said they couldn't get back to me in time to say that the product might be under a different brand, and that it might have been damaged during shipping (...).

Anbes Official still has them listed but has not yet replied to my question whether the product is a rebrand or not. It seems like the same person in the message center though...

 

[vstolpner]

The UFO has very stable connection, yes. Very rarely the left bud will drop out and immediately reconnect, it seems to happen more with my laptop than my phone. B9Scrambler said the connection of the S60 BT5.0 is more stable but disconnects on a laptop. What's holding me back is that Astrotec might release another run with a newer chip or S80 with a Type C case soon.

I did hear of both changes coming from Astrotec, I believe sometime August was the expected release for the new S60.

If I'm not mistaken the mifo O4 will use a Knowles BA. Might be a good alternative

 

[FYLegend]

I did hear of both changes coming from Astrotec, I believe sometime August was the expected release for the new S60.

If I'm not mistaken the mifo O4 will use a Knowles BA. Might be a good alternative

August would be the next batch of S80 but they didn't mention any updates about a new S60.

Mifo O4 uses "hybrid moving coil" dynamic driver. Shanling's TWS will have the option of either Knowles BA or graphene DD.

O4 has been out since June in Thailand but haven't seen any listings yet.

 

[RobinFood]

Oh wow, they're more like BT20/Fostex.... But look really cool!

The ear hook part was removable. The plastic is made of though felt like plastic-cup plastic.
I am not sure they are durable...or practical...but they sounded alright, maybe one of the best when they came out, if you like heavy bass.

 

[hifi80sman]

IMO the MPOW T5 is hands down the best i've used. I also have the 359's.

Agree. In this case, cVc 8.0 actually means something.

 

[d3myz]

Just double checked again - using AAC on my Galaxy S8.

I've heard that some AAC implementations only work on iPhone - maybe this is a reverse of that?

I was able to get AAC working via my Mac. sounds even better now.

 

[Bartig]

Those are the exact same form factor as the MPOW T5, and Tranya T1 pro

No they are not. These are clearly rebrands from the Anomoibuds Capsule TWS, which are excellent and can be had for around 20 dollar.

 

[d3myz]

No they are not. These are clearly rebrands from the Anomoibuds Capsule TWS, which are excellent and can be had for around 20 dollar.

Could be, same charging chage, but the housing is exactly like the Tranya T1 Pro and T5

 

[SilverEars]

Are the TW mostly dynamic driver based? If so, one thing that would make the most difference for dynamic drivers are lots of power to control the driver much better, and quicker. I get a sense that in order to save battery, the amps inside the TW earpieces are likely weak-sauce amps. That would make the most significant difference first, the amping.

That's the big caveat with the TW, not being able to have control over what to amp the drivers with.

 

[vstolpner]

August would be the next batch of S80 but they didn't mention any updates about a new S60.

Mifo O4 uses "hybrid moving coil" dynamic driver. Shanling's TWS will have the option of either Knowles BA or graphene DD.

O4 has been out since June in Thailand but haven't seen any listings yet.

Oh I thought mifo did BA as well, my mistake. Well then the Shanling. To be honest I thought they were just rebrands like the TFZ X1/X1E.

I was able to get AAC working via my Mac. sounds even better now.

Congrats!
I did find SBC to AAC does improve things in all TWS earphones I've tried so far.

Are the TW mostly dynamic driver based? If so, one thing that would make the most difference for dynamic drivers are lots of power to control the driver much better, and quicker. I get a sense that in order to save battery, the amps inside the TW earpieces are likely weak-sauce amps. That would make the most significant difference first, the amping.

That's the big caveat with the TW, not being able to have control over what to amp the drivers with.

Most Bluetooth earphones use the same SOC for connectivity, DAC, and amp. This is why you get audible noise floors and such. Especially in TWS earphones, there just isn't enough space, and most people would find the short battery life unacceptable.

 

[riodgarp]

I’ve found that KZ’s eartips seal better for me with most IEMs. My new Mifo o5 pros are no different. They definitely sound “cleaner” than the stock tips to my ears.

did you feels like you're swimming or something similiar using kz's eartips with mifo o5 pro?

I use the mifo eartips with it as well. Since they sit quite shallow, I find they need a larger eartip. Whereas my Anbes 359 sit deeper, so a smaller eartip is sufficient.

nah I have tried largest one, not fits well as I'm using others eartips